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Post by alster on Aug 30, 2017 12:30:37 GMT
I honestly think we missed a trick when Newcastle came in for Joselu. I think we could have prized Mitrovic out of him on the cheap maybe even a straight swap. Worth a chance he's got the attributes to be a good centre forward. I know he's short of goals but so id Janssen for a lot more money and less attributes of a targetman. Ok he's been a hot head but maybe he's maturing. He's certainly got ability. Big, strong, aggressive, mobile, technically decent. He should have been a much bigger hit over here than he has so far.
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Post by unknown182 on Aug 30, 2017 12:50:22 GMT
Aboubakar from Porto would be ideal. He ticks all the boxes
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Post by alster on Aug 30, 2017 12:52:12 GMT
Aboubakar from Porto would be ideal. He ticks all the boxes Is he IS or al qaeda?
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Aug 30, 2017 13:29:33 GMT
Something March alluded to on another thread, and I think he hit on something. I think we're too nice at the moment and need a bruiser up front. Not necessarily filthy, but physical to hold the ball up and bring our classier players more into the game. Ideally he would be prolific, but maybe with the right attributes he doesn't need to be. Diouf almost cuts it, but not quite (for me). I just think we look a bit lightweight up front,and need some oomph. Who can provide it? If the manager wanted that i can only assume he would have stuck with Bony last season as he was holding the ball up suberply before he was dropped out of sight.
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Post by marshy on Aug 30, 2017 13:31:38 GMT
I did watch most of the WBA game thinking "how good would Rondon be for us?"
Does so much good work bringing people into play and knows where the net is.
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Post by nott1 on Aug 30, 2017 13:31:51 GMT
Aboubakar from Porto would be ideal. He ticks all the boxes Is he IS or al qaeda? We don't want losers like them thanks!
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Post by alster on Aug 30, 2017 13:34:03 GMT
Something March alluded to on another thread, and I think he hit on something. I think we're too nice at the moment and need a bruiser up front. Not necessarily filthy, but physical to hold the ball up and bring our classier players more into the game. Ideally he would be prolific, but maybe with the right attributes he doesn't need to be. Diouf almost cuts it, but not quite (for me). I just think we look a bit lightweight up front,and need some oomph. Who can provide it? If the manager wanted that i can only assume he would have stuck with Bony last season as he was holding the ball up suberply before he was dropped out of sight. You're assuming he knows what he wants which doesn't appear to be the case with strikers.Seems to be his favorite trick signing them then refusing to play them.
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 30, 2017 13:34:08 GMT
we need to go taters deep on costa My taters would explode, i think there are two options here, no chance and fuck all chance. would be more than nice though.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Aug 30, 2017 13:37:12 GMT
Loic Remy. 30 though, couldn't loan him. I like him, doesn't seem nasty though.
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Aug 30, 2017 13:58:36 GMT
If the manager wanted that i can only assume he would have stuck with Bony last season as he was holding the ball up suberply before he was dropped out of sight. You're assuming he knows what he wants which doesn't appear to be the case with strikers.Seems to be his favorite trick signing them then refusing to play them. True I tend to think that a lot of managers achilles heel is their own former playing position/strength. He seems to lack the ability to get out of a striker what he really needs, or see what what they can/cannot do for him. Perhaps in part because he could do most things as a front man, great finisher, good with his head, strong hold up player, clever enough to get in behind despite not being lightening fast. He sends them out there and struggles to understand why they can't do what he would have done. The same went for Pulis. As a player his strength was organisation/positioning/bravery. Except for the odd player (notably fuller) he struggled to understand any player who was not able to carry out his instructions to the letter once on the field of play.
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Post by kentpotter on Aug 30, 2017 13:59:56 GMT
"Oooh ah Noel Blake, say oooh ah Noel Blake"
Loved him, what an ugly, scary mother!
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Post by heworksardtho on Aug 30, 2017 14:15:47 GMT
Joe Jordan would get my vote
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Post by alster on Aug 30, 2017 14:40:22 GMT
Joe Jordan would get my vote For what? As a way of convincing people that our last two managers have been absolutely world class by threatening to bring him back if they won't agree. Should work.
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Post by silverdollar on Aug 30, 2017 14:50:03 GMT
So let's look at all the best ten football clubs in Europe. How many of them have a big dirty bastard playing up front for them? You are all living in the sixties and seventies if you think this is the answer. "Hold the ball up" ????? This sounds like you are thinking of a player who protects and controls the ball whilst the rest of the team steam up the pitch to support. Once again the way the game was played decades ago and only by Tony Pulis now! I am very happy with the way the window has progressed with the hope of more to come. Add to this the progress of certain young players and I believe we are moving in the right direction. Get behind your club and leave all the big bastards to fight for Cersai!
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Aug 30, 2017 14:50:41 GMT
Joe Jordan would get my vote For what? As a way of convincing people that our last two managers have been absolutely world class by threatening to bring him back if they won't agree. Should work. Good lord, the Joey Jordan era, how depressing....nonetheless one of the stand out atmosphere's i can ever recall on the Boothen was his first game, i think against Leicester. Bouncing to Joey Jordans Barmy army for pretty much the entire 90 minutes.
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Post by alster on Aug 30, 2017 14:51:52 GMT
For what? As a way of convincing people that our last two managers have been absolutely world class by threatening to bring him back if they won't agree. Should work. Good lord, the Joey Jordan era, how depressing....nonetheless one of the stand out atmosphere's i can ever recall on the Boothen was his first game, i think against Leicester. Bouncing to Joey Jordans Barmy army for pretty much the entire 90 minutes. Little did we know.
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Post by neilb987 on Aug 30, 2017 15:32:11 GMT
A modern version of James Beattie with the goals but without the bad attitude would be a useful type of forward which we currently lack in the squad ....?
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Post by alster on Aug 30, 2017 15:33:39 GMT
A modern version of James Beattie with the goals but without the bad attitude would be a useful type of forward which we currently lack in the squad ....? I don't think Beattie had the bad attitude that was his manager.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 30, 2017 15:36:34 GMT
So let's look at all the best ten football clubs in Europe. How many of them have a big dirty bastard playing up front for them? You are all living in the sixties and seventies if you think this is the answer. "Hold the ball up" ????? This sounds like you are thinking of a player who protects and controls the ball whilst the rest of the team steam up the pitch to support. Once again the way the game was played decades ago and only by Tony Pulis now! I am very happy with the way the window has progressed with the hope of more to come. Add to this the progress of certain young players and I believe we are moving in the right direction. Get behind your club and leave all the big bastards to fight for Cersai! Never said dirty. Also, why do Manchester United look far better all of a sudden? Could that big target man have something to do with it?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 15:36:57 GMT
I would love to see a mean mistreater up top but even someone like Shearer would be a walking red card these days 😬
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Post by alster on Aug 30, 2017 15:38:46 GMT
So let's look at all the best ten football clubs in Europe. How many of them have a big dirty bastard playing up front for them? You are all living in the sixties and seventies if you think this is the answer. "Hold the ball up" ????? This sounds like you are thinking of a player who protects and controls the ball whilst the rest of the team steam up the pitch to support. Once again the way the game was played decades ago and only by Tony Pulis now! I am very happy with the way the window has progressed with the hope of more to come. Add to this the progress of certain young players and I believe we are moving in the right direction. Get behind your club and leave all the big bastards to fight for Cersai! Never said dirty. Also, why do Manchester United look far better all of a sudden? Could that big target man have something to do with it? Nah they had one of them last year until he got injured, don't know about bigger but definitely dirtier.
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Post by neilb987 on Aug 30, 2017 15:40:34 GMT
A modern version of James Beattie with the goals but without the bad attitude would be a useful type of forward which we currently lack in the squad ....? I don't think Beattie had the bad attitude that was his manager. Probably, but I think there were 'issues' on both sides with this! JB certainly played a vital part in keeping us up that first season when he arrived.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 15:41:16 GMT
Never said dirty. Also, why do Manchester United look far better all of a sudden? Could that big target man have something to do with it? Nah they had one of them last year until he got injured, don't know about bigger but definitely dirtier. The difference for them is pace. Zlatan scored some but he didn't half miss a lot aswell. Add to that the fact that he's a big fat lump when it comes to movement and you have the recipe for finishing 6th. Convinced they'd have finished higher playing Rashford.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 30, 2017 15:44:00 GMT
Never said dirty. Also, why do Manchester United look far better all of a sudden? Could that big target man have something to do with it? Nah they had one of them last year until he got injured, don't know about bigger but definitely dirtier. Lukaku is much quicker, though. I wasn't asking for a complete meat head up front, but I still maintain there is a place for pace, power and aggression in the forward line. We can't out finesse everybody.
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Post by alster on Aug 30, 2017 15:45:04 GMT
Nah they had one of them last year until he got injured, don't know about bigger but definitely dirtier. The difference for them is pace. Zlatan scored some but he didn't half miss a lot aswell. Add to that the fact that he's a big fat lump when it comes to movement and you have the recipe for finishing 6th. Convinced they'd have finished higher playing Rashford. Tall good in the air, miles more mobile than Crouch had ever been and everybody keeps telling me how great he is and one dirty bastard I think Zlatan fits the bill rather well.
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Post by superheroantonius on Aug 30, 2017 15:46:19 GMT
I did watch most of the WBA game thinking "how good would Rondon be for us?" Does so much good work bringing people into play and knows where the net is. Rondon would be great at bringing others into play As would diouf. For some reason and I can't explain it (as that's how he played himself!!) hughes doesn't like this sort of player
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Post by alster on Aug 30, 2017 15:48:46 GMT
Nah they had one of them last year until he got injured, don't know about bigger but definitely dirtier. Lukaku is much quicker, though. I wasn't asking for a complete meat head up front, but I still maintain there is a place for pace, power and aggression in the forward line. We can't out finesse everybody. Not arguing its exactly what I wanted us to bring in. Main point I was trying to get across that Zlatan is miles dirtier than Lukaku.
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Post by senojbor on Aug 30, 2017 15:50:27 GMT
We don't play the type of football. We hardly ever cross the ball and we have no one that's particularly good at it.
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Post by alster on Aug 30, 2017 15:51:08 GMT
I did watch most of the WBA game thinking "how good would Rondon be for us?" Does so much good work bringing people into play and knows where the net is. Rondon would be great at bringing others into play As would diouf. For some reason and I can't explain it (as that's how he played himself!!) hughes doesn't like this sort of player Don't go down that road some awkward fucker like me will ask you what sort of forward he does like then you'll be flummoxed. Ones that drift about like empty crisp packets on a gentle breeze would be my stab at it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 15:52:30 GMT
The difference for them is pace. Zlatan scored some but he didn't half miss a lot aswell. Add to that the fact that he's a big fat lump when it comes to movement and you have the recipe for finishing 6th. Convinced they'd have finished higher playing Rashford. Tall good in the air, miles more mobile than Crouch had ever been and everybody keeps telling me how great he is and one dirty bastard I think Zlatan fits the bill rather well. I don't think being more mobile than Crouch is much of a statement either to be honest. He wasted a hell of a lot of chances last year, and easy ones at that. For what he'd cost, and for how much he'd slow down our already unbelievably slow attack, not sure it'd be a winner. That said, if we signed Zlatan, i'd literally shit myself with excitement.
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