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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Aug 19, 2017 23:05:14 GMT
Who cares? We had plenty of decisions go against us last year. Let's enjoy we beat Wengers bunch of cunts, let's lap up all incorrect decisions, hell let's give mariner the MOTM award. We beat the arse. End of job done fuck you. Up the potters
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Post by adamsson on Aug 19, 2017 23:19:33 GMT
Apart from the foul on Pieter's the ref got little wrong
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2017 23:36:42 GMT
2 penalties imo.
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 20, 2017 0:33:39 GMT
Only one in the first half when Diouf brought Bellerine down.  |
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Post by turtlefox on Aug 20, 2017 0:41:41 GMT
We had some luck. Could have been a different result with another referee.
Bad luck happens. Just be glad when it's not your bad luck.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 7:17:07 GMT
Imo the ref got 3 huge decisions wrong today. He got two pens wrong and the foul on pieters wrong. I'm bloody glad he did though. Please come back Andre
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 7:19:23 GMT
All I can say is 'Good' in the style of Mick McCarthy. I've seen too many games go against us and nobody care, so to see one game where a little bit of luck goes our way (I'm guessing Wenger hasn't had chance to influence referees with his comments so early in the season) and watch the opposition cry over it is pretty refreshing. Especially when it's the fans of the single worst club to ever exist.
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Post by stokiesteve on Aug 20, 2017 7:37:35 GMT
Debatable. If it had been the other way round I'm sure I would have leapt up, but I wouldn't have been that gutted if it wasn't given. Neither of them were stone wall. The only real gripe would be the offside call. Which although millimetres, was the correct decision. But how many times were we frustrated last season with these calls going against us? Lap it up I say. It makes it funnier that we beat Arsenal and on another day we probably wouldn't have done.  |
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Post by gregstokie on Aug 20, 2017 7:44:59 GMT
I know rules are rules but I'm a bit fed up about the whole penalty fiasco. In a majority of genuine penalties based on the rules the player fowled most likely wouldn't have been likely to score anyway. We scored a 'real' goal and I couldn't give a shit if some Arsenal player may or may not have been slightly impeded (depending on interpretation yawn) when they were chasing a ball they would have probably put into row Z like the rest of their shots had they not have been touched.
..... yes I know I'm a bit 'spesh'
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 20, 2017 7:56:56 GMT
The first peno shout was the only one I spotted at the game and it was a definite penalty.
I loved Jenas saying they should be aggrieved with the offside too because it was tight. Fucking idiot.
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Post by chayzenbacon on Aug 20, 2017 7:59:43 GMT
All I can say is 'Good' in the style of Mick McCarthy. I've seen too many games go against us and nobody care, so to see one game where a little bit of luck goes our way (I'm guessing Wenger hasn't had chance to influence referees with his comments so early in the season) and watch the opposition cry over it is pretty refreshing. Especially when it's the fans of the single worst club to ever exist. Couldn't have put it better myself. And as for BTSport, MOTD etc. - if the decisions that the big 6 obsessed media are highlighting had gone against Stoke and not Arsenal they would never have got a mention. |
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Post by adi on Aug 20, 2017 8:02:33 GMT
Without a doubt diouf was very clumsy and slow to read the game and it could've cost us big time. Nice to have a bit of luck for a change.
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Post by 3putts on Aug 20, 2017 8:06:37 GMT
not penalties for me. just seen them again and diouf is clumsy in the box they are certainly not a "stonewall" penalty and imo a penalty should not be given unless it is "stonewall" as it has too much influence on the game. why did the ref choose to ignore the foul on pieters at the end?
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 20, 2017 8:10:37 GMT
The first peno shout was the only one I spotted at the game and it was a definite penalty. I loved Jenas saying they should be aggrieved with the offside too because it was tight. Fucking idiot. Technically it was offside but you'd be disappointed if it was given against you. The Linesman was guessing. In fact he was guessing all game, he was terrible. They had two other stonewall penalties not given. We had the decisions which is 'ace', about time our luck changed. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 20, 2017 8:13:45 GMT
The first peno shout was the only one I spotted at the game and it was a definite penalty. I loved Jenas saying they should be aggrieved with the offside too because it was tight. Fucking idiot. Technically it was offside but you'd be disappointed if it was given against you. The Linesman was guessing. In fact he was guessing all game, he was terrible. They had two other stonewall penalties not given. We had the decisions which is 'ace', about time our luck changed. Offside is offside. He got it spot on. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 8:17:34 GMT
I don't get this...he was only a bit offside so the goal should have stood. Offside is offside. To be honest I hope this carries on. It will fuel the siege mentality which was in evidence yesterday. Best atmosphere for ages.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 20, 2017 8:18:10 GMT
Technically it was offside but you'd be disappointed if it was given against you. The Linesman was guessing. In fact he was guessing all game, he was terrible. They had two other stonewall penalties not given. We had the decisions which is 'ace', about time our luck changed. Offside is offside. He got it spot on. By guessing. Video evidence will put these decisions to bed I suppose, but I can see Arsenal's gripe. |
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Post by Fred Ferret on Aug 20, 2017 8:18:11 GMT
The first peno shout was the only one I spotted at the game and it was a definite penalty. I loved Jenas saying they should be aggrieved with the offside too because it was tight. Fucking idiot. MOTD shouldn't use little boys as pundits - who employ the logic of a tit! |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 20, 2017 8:19:33 GMT
Offside is offside. He got it spot on. By guessing. Video evidence will put these decisions to bed I suppose, but I can see Arsenal's gripe. I dunno maybe he saw the black of their kit ahead of the red and white ahead of ours? It was quite distinctive. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 8:20:15 GMT
That's football, we've been on the wrong end so many times, nice to have a bit of luck.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Aug 20, 2017 8:21:28 GMT
Offside is offside. He got it spot on. By guessing. Video evidence will put these decisions to bed I suppose, but I can see Arsenal's gripe. By guessing? It's his job to spot those offsides and he did. Top work. |
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Post by StoKeith on Aug 20, 2017 8:25:24 GMT
Offside is offside. He got it spot on. By guessing. Video evidence will put these decisions to bed I suppose, but I can see Arsenal's gripe. So you're saying a better linesman doing his job properly would have got it wrong and allowed the goal to stand? And that would be praiseworthy? I don't see how anyone can criticise a linesman who got such a tight decision correct. It makes no sense. |
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Post by blackpoolred on Aug 20, 2017 8:38:13 GMT
"I am a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it." - Thomas Jefferson
Their goal was off-side even if by the smallest of margins. There 2nd so called penalty appeal was not a penalty and they are never given, just 3 players hunting for the ball, yes feet tangled but that is going to happen when you have a number of players running into the same space. Their 1st penalty appeal was a blatant penalty, I still have no feckin clue why we are starting the season with a centre-forward at R/B and neither did the pundits on MOD - his endevour is fantastic to watch, but we need a proper R/B - W/B.
It was a heart warming performance by the potters, where we kept the Arse down to a few half chances. Not many teams if any will keep a clean sheet against Arsenal this season and we did it with something to spare.
What a feckin player we could have in Jese, Zouma is looking class also and I will have to eat a bit(a lot) of humble pie and admit Fletcher is looking the part also.
Massive well done to Hughes and the boys for yesterdays effort. Please, please buy a feckin R/B though before the window closes
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Post by malteser68 on Aug 20, 2017 8:47:30 GMT
No penalties imo
Foul on Pieters should have been given + a red card
Lacazette was offside
All in all ref was good and not a wenger ass-licker
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Post by block23 on Aug 20, 2017 8:56:56 GMT
Has the tackle on Erik been highlighted anywhere? I only saw it live at the match, I know he got the ball, but it looked like studs up and followed through, a clear penalty and some action, yellow or red for the Arse player? Was it discussed on TV
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Post by Fredrikstad Norway on Aug 20, 2017 8:56:57 GMT
Offside is offside, Wenger!! Even if it is 2 cm. Replay show that the fot to Lacazette is in offside.
Clattenburg said that Pieters hands was not penalty. Hand did not seak the ball.
You can argue for and against that Diouf situation is a penalty. Clattenburg said it was penalty. We were lucky with this.
Marriner was a good ref. for us for once.
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Post by chayzenbacon on Aug 20, 2017 9:00:04 GMT
No penalties imo Foul on Pieters should have been given + a red card Lacazette was offside All in all ref was good and not a wenger ass-licker Not sure about the Dioufy penalty, maybe the ref thought the Arsenal player (Bellerin?) couldn't have got to the ball before it went out of play or before Butland came to clear it? The other decisions "against" Arsenal were correct IMHO. Most of all though, just fuck 'em. Fuck Arsenal, fuck Arsene Wenger, fuck the commentators, fuck the pundits, fuck the sports writers. It is very rare for Stoke City to get the rub of the green where decisions are concerned, especially against those Arsenal cunts. Never forget that 4th goal of ours 2 seasons ago being chalked off, that was a travesty and a disgrace, what happened or didn't happen yesterday was small fry and the reaction is desperate bollocks by a load of cunts. Fuck 'em. I might have said that before  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 9:06:33 GMT
1-0 was the score. They can't change it!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 9:10:10 GMT
No penalties imo Foul on Pieters should have been given + a red card Lacazette was offside All in all ref was good and not a wenger ass-licker Not sure about the Dioufy penalty, maybe the ref thought the Arsenal player (Bellerin?) couldn't have got to the ball before it went out of play or before Butland came to clear it? The other decisions "against" Arsenal were correct IMHO. Most of all though, just fuck 'em. Fuck Arsenal, fuck Arsene Wenger, fuck the commentators, fuck the pundits, fuck the sports writers. It is very rare for Stoke City to get the rub of the green where decisions are concerned, especially against those Arsenal cunts. Never forget that 4th goal of ours 2 seasons ago being chalked off, that was a travesty and a disgrace, what happened or didn't happen yesterday was small fry and the reaction is desperate bollocks by a load of cunts. Fuck 'em. I might have said that before I thought Bellerin had slipped moments before and was already going down, so no penalty for me. The second one was just a media jizz fest over a modest tangle of legs - never a penalty in a million years. Offside - technically offside, so the right decision, but I'd be thoroughly pissed off if it was given against us. It's impossible to judge offside correctly 100% of the time that's the margin of error the lino's are working to. Foul on Eric - might have got the ball but reckless and should have been a penalty. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 20, 2017 9:12:08 GMT
The first peno shout was the only one I spotted at the game and it was a definite penalty. I loved Jenas saying they should be aggrieved with the offside too because it was tight. Fucking idiot. Technically it was offside but you'd be disappointed if it was given against you. The Linesman was guessing. In fact he was guessing all game, he was terrible. They had two other stonewall penalties not given. We had the decisions which is 'ace', about time our luck changed. This. Hopefully Hughes realises that, particularly at home, you make your own luck to a certain extent. By taking the game to Arse, being aggressive in our play and getting the crowd behind us I think we put pressure on the officials which may have been a factor. The offside is the type of decision that could go either way, but last season went against us virtually every time. |
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