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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 16, 2017 17:39:57 GMT
Anybody got a clue? Some decent signings, no doubt, but what's the plan? Is Hughes thinking of going back to 4-2-3-1 or is 3 at the back, back to stay? What part will Shaq play in his chosen formation?
Not intending to be negative, just curious given the signings we've made and players we are looking at.
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Post by wuzza on Aug 16, 2017 17:57:35 GMT
Can't we do something easier like splitting the atom or coming up with the meaning of life ??
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 16, 2017 18:10:47 GMT
The more a club spends, the less players they are allowed on the pitch, 10 players if you spend £75m. 9 payers if you spend £100m, 8 players if you spend over £100m.  This could mean we could be the only Premiership team with 11 players.  |
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 16, 2017 18:20:56 GMT
I'd keep switching up the wingers and the attacking mid, I can't see any team wanting to deal with a combination of Choupo, Shaqiri, Sobhi/Jese for 90 minutes constantly rotating around the pitch.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 16, 2017 18:23:30 GMT
I think we're pretty wedded to 3-4-3 for a while
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Aug 16, 2017 18:23:48 GMT
Anybody got a clue? Some decent signings, no doubt, but what's the plan? Is Hughes thinking of going back to 4-2-3-1 or is 3 at the back, back to stay? What part will Shaq play in his chosen formation? Not intending to be negative, just curious given the signings we've made and players we are looking at. With the increasing number of teams doing the 3 thing then I reckon it'll become our default this season. Though if we start to receive a few drubbings then I can see the 433 being whipped out again. Hughesy always tweaks a formation {with inverted wingers etc} so I can see a 352 again too {like we did against {Leicester/Liverpool last season} with a big man little man combo up top. The potential in our back three is awesome, window hasn't shut so it's still a little premature to say who/what/where for definite. Still got to bear in mind that it'll be a minor medical miracle if we get 25+ games out of Shaq, but right of the front three in a 343 is made for him. Keep the faith, three is the magic number. You should be dancing mate. |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Aug 16, 2017 18:24:14 GMT
Looks like a 3 at the back. Which is fucking hilarious as we don't have a single wing back at the club.
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Post by parsonage1955 on Aug 16, 2017 19:17:31 GMT
It's a key question. 3 at the back and the priority is a LWB (since Douffy's been very good on the right), 4 at the back and the priority is an orthodox right back (since Ekka is perfectly serviceable as a defender). Make your mind up Mark.
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 16, 2017 19:20:52 GMT
It's a key question. 3 at the back and the priority is a LWB (since Douffy's been very good on the right), 4 at the back and the priority is an orthodox right back (since Ekka is perfectly serviceable as a defender). Make your mind up Mark. For 4 at the back Hughes could play Geoff or Kurt there, with Ryan and Bruno in the middle. I think we will go 3-4-3 to start with, having used it in pre-season and our first game. This could change if we get our big money striker target, as he could then play Shaq, Jese and Choupo behind him in a 4-2-3-1. |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 16, 2017 19:28:13 GMT
It's a key question. 3 at the back and the priority is a LWB (since Douffy's been very good on the right), 4 at the back and the priority is an orthodox right back (since Ekka is perfectly serviceable as a defender). Make your mind up Mark. For 4 at the back Hughes could play Geoff or Kurt there, with Ryan and Bruno in the middle. I think we will go 3-4-3 to start with, having used it in pre-season and our first game. This could change if we get our big money striker target, as he could then play Shaq, Jese and Choupo behind him in a 4-2-3-1. Janssen could be the key in either formation, especially the latter. Where does this leave Saido, though? |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 16, 2017 19:32:33 GMT
Anybody got a clue? Some decent signings, no doubt, but what's the plan? Is Hughes thinking of going back to 4-2-3-1 or is 3 at the back, back to stay? What part will Shaq play in his chosen formation? Not intending to be negative, just curious given the signings we've made and players we are looking at. With the increasing number of teams doing the 3 thing then I reckon it'll become our default this season. Though if we start to receive a few drubbings then I can see the 433 being whipped out again. Hughesy always tweaks a formation {with inverted wingers etc} so I can see a 352 again too {like we did against {Leicester/Liverpool last season} with a big man little man combo up top. The potential in our back three is awesome, window hasn't shut so it's still a little premature to say who/what/where for definite. Still got to bear in mind that it'll be a minor medical miracle if we get 25+ games out of Shaq, but right of the front three in a 343 is made for him. Keep the faith, three is the magic number. You should be dancing mate. Thought we looked more solid against Everton, so hopefully with the additions (and more to come), a dad dance may be in order! |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Aug 16, 2017 20:31:31 GMT
With the increasing number of teams doing the 3 thing then I reckon it'll become our default this season. Though if we start to receive a few drubbings then I can see the 433 being whipped out again. Hughesy always tweaks a formation {with inverted wingers etc} so I can see a 352 again too {like we did against {Leicester/Liverpool last season} with a big man little man combo up top. The potential in our back three is awesome, window hasn't shut so it's still a little premature to say who/what/where for definite. Still got to bear in mind that it'll be a minor medical miracle if we get 25+ games out of Shaq, but right of the front three in a 343 is made for him. Keep the faith, three is the magic number. You should be dancing mate. Thought we looked more solid against Everton, so hopefully with the additions (and more to come), a dad dance may be in order! Thought the first 45 in particular were great. Allowed us to take the game to Everton, keep it a bit higher up the pitch and that. Came down to a lapse in concentration which obviously can happen in any formation, though Pieters was terribly out of position, again I don't think that was a flaw in our set up, as much as how it was executed, Fletcher was clear where Eric should have been, and in theory at least if Eric had been turned, Cameron should have then stepped up etc. Been an advocate of trying it for a while, and on the whole I've been pleased with how we've played using it, still not scoring enough obviously, but seems more urgency about us, we've controlled all of the first halves when we've used it: Watford {A}, Burnley {H}, Southampton* {Arnie sending off, switched to 4}, Leicester {H}, Liverpool {A}, Chelsea {away}, Watford {H}, Hull {H}, and arguably at the weekend too. Fucking conundrum how we seem to lose it second half, I don't think it's lack of fitness we kept going until the end saturday, but like Koeman did and like Hughes did second half against Hull, for now at least the plan should be to switch early second half to a 442. He's often tended to do that to end games. It's not always the case, we've won a few sticking with the 3. I get the concerns about our erstwhile wing back options but do think longer term {touch wood} Edwards and Tymon are a step in the right direction. Question is are Pieters and Diouf good enough. For me they are good enough with the quality in the squad, for Top 10, they may not be good enough to propel us to the title though. They are good enough for me. Nevertheless I thought Diouf had a poor game, one where nothing seemed to stick, he's had those games as a striker, and I think he's a player who needs to get into a groove, last season first two games of the season he didn't do much either, {the player not the position}, I like what he brings to it and he remains a goal threat by drifting into the box when play's on the left. Saw the best and worst of Erik, that whipped-in searching cross was phenomenal, meat and drink. It was his first game without Arnie in about 4 years, in an infant formation. Mitigations for both in the first match, but still did well enough in how I judge a performance. {Strangely enough I'm less critical of my own.} I'm prepared to judge this season afresh, new personnel an awesome looking platform. I'd be happy enough continuing with Pieters and Diouf. Interesting a few folk mentioning Cameron as rwb, I think there's a lot of sense in that. Protecting, adding height and that around Shaq, getting his toe in, running with it and short passes to the PowerCube, he'd excell at that. Less reliant on crosses and longer range distribution. Might suit saturday, more defence orientated, can drop back as right back and that. Also think there could well be a wingback within Ramadan, either flank imo. So our options aren't so bad. Potential choice from six players. Always hold out hope for a Victor Moses type revelation, doesn't have to be that profound even. *edit. Forgot Johnson as wb too. |
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Post by ed5993 on Aug 16, 2017 20:56:58 GMT
Butland
Diouf (?!)
Zouma
Martins Indi
Pieters
Fletcher
Allen
Jesé
Shaqiri
Choupo-Moting
Berahino......
So yeah I've done it... no Ryan.
Or...
Butland
Zouma
Shawcross
Martins Indi
Diouf
Fletcher
Allen
Pieters
Jesé
Choupo-Moting
Shaqiri
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 21:11:50 GMT
It seems the 3 at the back is Hughes preferred option. I think he will go
Jack
Zouma shawcross indi
Diouf cameron Fletcher pieters
Shaq jese
Berahino
Edit.. realise I've dropped a bollock. It meant be Allen not cameron
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 16, 2017 21:15:27 GMT
It seems the 3 at the back is Hughes preferred option. I think he will go Jack Zouma shawcross indi Diouf cameron Fletcher pieters Shaq jese Berahino I can't see him leaving Allen out. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 21:17:20 GMT
It seems the 3 at the back is Hughes preferred option. I think he will go Jack Zouma shawcross indi Diouf cameron Fletcher pieters Shaq jese Berahino I can't see him leaving Allen out. My bad mate. For some reason I've put cameron in there when in my head I was putting Allen for cameron. Don't know why I've done it ha ha. But I agree Allen in place of cameron |
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