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Post by werrington on Aug 12, 2017 17:56:50 GMT
Did we bollocks look livelier with Crouch on Given he had a strike partner and a supplier he offered as much as Berahino Welcomed far more exciting of a goal threat with Crouch on.Sorry that doesn't fit your hate Crouch agenda You live in cuckoo land
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Post by nutterpotter on Aug 12, 2017 18:00:36 GMT
I've not seen the game, but were there many chances created for him? Nope
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Aug 12, 2017 18:01:42 GMT
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 12, 2017 18:01:42 GMT
So why do we do better when he isn't on ? We did today we did at Bolton sorry he just doesn't want it Because Hughes changes formation and we all of a sudden start crossing it for crouch, its as plain as day! He's the only striker we supply. Last season's home game with Everton, for example, Arnie for once got to the byline to set up a tap in for Crouch. We hardly ever do that for anyone else.
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Aug 12, 2017 18:02:30 GMT
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Post by superheroantonius on Aug 12, 2017 18:02:30 GMT
I find it hard to form an opinion on Berahino. He doesn't miss many chances because he doesn't get (or make) any. He isn't involved in anything much and he doesn't seem to have any outstanding skills or qualities. Him or the system ? Maybe a bit of both. However it is unforgivable that the management havent sorted this issue by now, there's been time a plenty and we are no further forward than on the day he arrived. There is no time to faff around, sort it now because there is a very real possibility that we will be in October with no more than a couple of goals in the credit column with a league position that reflects this. I think you have answered your own question... If he hasn't got the pace acceleration and intelligence to make the runs that allow his team mates to play him in, then he's not a premier league striker
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Post by senojbor on Aug 12, 2017 18:02:34 GMT
He is shite. We looked far livelier when Crouch came on. Berahino is useless. Full stop. 0 goals in 42 Did we bollocks look livelier with Crouch on Given he had a strike partner and a supplier he offered as much as Berahino You should have gone to Specsavers. We looked much better with Crouch on.
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Aug 12, 2017 18:03:19 GMT
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Post by werrington on Aug 12, 2017 18:03:19 GMT
Did we bollocks look livelier with Crouch on Given he had a strike partner and a supplier he offered as much as Berahino You should have gone to Specsavers. We looked much better with Crouch on. I was at the game ...we created nothing with or without
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Aug 12, 2017 18:08:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 18:08:49 GMT
Both players and managers have to take responsibility but Hughes has created issues that never needed to exist.
When we play 1 up front we don't have the midfield with the pace to get up and support the front man so 90% of the time they are isolated, we also don't have the front man to hold it up.
The other tactic is Sunday league stuff. Bring the tall player on and lump it up to his head and hope it drops, barely premier league quality stuff. Yes it looks more busy around the opposition box but it's barely more threatening.
Add to the fact we don't have a wing back on the book who can put a cross in.
It's a sad state of affairs that our most prolific forward is a guy who can barely control football.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 12, 2017 18:09:12 GMT
I've not seen the game, but were there many chances created for him? Nope Oh, no sure how people can say he played badly if he had nothing to play off, ah well, it can only get better.
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Aug 12, 2017 18:11:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 18:11:28 GMT
If he's adamant on playing 3 at the back and wing backs, you then need wing backs who can cross a ball and get up and down the pitch. This then means your front 3 can play closer together.
Any ball we did get in the box saw Bera on his own with 3/4 defenders. He's going to do nothing with that.
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Post by butlerstbob on Aug 12, 2017 18:12:21 GMT
Because Hughes changes formation and we all of a sudden start crossing it for crouch, its as plain as day! He's the only striker we supply. Last season's home game with Everton, for example, Arnie for once got to the byline to set up a tap in for Crouch. We hardly ever do that for anyone else. I know, its strange, as soon as he comes off we seem to change to the tactics that suit him! I cant get my head around it!! I would like to see Joselu in this formation as I think he is better suited!
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Aug 12, 2017 18:12:55 GMT
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Post by mickmacc on Aug 12, 2017 18:12:55 GMT
Welcomed far more exciting of a goal threat with Crouch on.Sorry that doesn't fit your hate Crouch agenda You live in cuckoo land And you prove you're ever more clueless with every dire drab predicable post
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Post by mickmacc on Aug 12, 2017 18:13:55 GMT
He's the only striker we supply. Last season's home game with Everton, for example, Arnie for once got to the byline to set up a tap in for Crouch. We hardly ever do that for anyone else. I know, its strange, as soon as he comes off we seem to change to the tactics that suit him! I cant get my head around it!! I would like to see Joselu in this formation as I think he is better suited! [ It's because Crouch gets in the right positions and has done all his career. Blubahino doesn't
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Aug 12, 2017 18:14:18 GMT
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Post by werrington on Aug 12, 2017 18:14:18 GMT
And you prove you're ever more clueless with every dire drab predicable post Yeah whatever ...another nothing argument from you
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Post by thegift on Aug 12, 2017 18:15:50 GMT
The guy is terrible. Get rid.
This no service is utter bollocks
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Post by mickmacc on Aug 12, 2017 18:16:40 GMT
And you prove you're ever more clueless with every dire drab predicable post Yeah whatever ...another nothing argument from you You crack on son
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Post by butlerstbob on Aug 12, 2017 18:17:30 GMT
I know, its strange, as soon as he comes off we seem to change to the tactics that suit him! I cant get my head around it!! I would like to see Joselu in this formation as I think he is better suited! [ It's because Crouch gets in the right positions and has done all his career. Blubahino doesn't Blubahino? How old are you 5??
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Aug 12, 2017 18:18:59 GMT
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Post by superheroantonius on Aug 12, 2017 18:18:59 GMT
Did we bollocks look livelier with Crouch on Given he had a strike partner and a supplier he offered as much as Berahino You should have gone to Specsavers. We looked much better with Crouch on. I don't think crouchy has ever scored 0 in 42 and I don't think he's going to
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Post by mickmacc on Aug 12, 2017 18:20:59 GMT
He scored 22 in 42- for England!!
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Post by senojbor on Aug 12, 2017 18:22:04 GMT
Oh, no sure how people can say he played badly if he had nothing to play off, ah well, it can only get better. Oh really? He's hardly had a shot on goal since he's been here.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 12, 2017 18:36:04 GMT
Oh, no sure how people can say he played badly if he had nothing to play off, ah well, it can only get better. Oh really? He's hardly had a shot on goal since he's been here. Apart from this game, as I can't really comment, but that was down to hardly any chances created for hm, he had two headers which he should have scored but that a side has had jack to work off.
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Aug 12, 2017 18:39:29 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 12, 2017 18:39:29 GMT
And you prove you're ever more clueless with every dire drab predicable post I'm not to sure that today is the day to sing crouch's praises given what he offered coming off the bench.
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Aug 12, 2017 18:41:31 GMT
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Post by ashley luiz on Aug 12, 2017 18:41:31 GMT
I have not seen anything he does that I have been impressed with . Whatever he had when he was younger has deserted him
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 18:46:13 GMT
Is this one of the shittest threads ever? Ohhhh I don't know about that.... There's been some serious shit on here over the years!!!!
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Post by Trouserdog on Aug 12, 2017 18:52:45 GMT
Sadly I don't think we can afford to sit on our hands any longer making excuses for him. He's had a pre-season, he's match fit, but we're getting very little from him and he's done nothing in any of the friendlies to suggest he's about to turn the corner.
People keep saying that we're not playing to his strengths, but what are his strengths exactly? He's not very big, he's not fast, he's poor in the air and based on the evidence we've seen so far, not very good at finishing either. Crouch would be starting next week for me, with Joselu on the bench.
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Post by ashley luiz on Aug 12, 2017 18:53:46 GMT
Welcomed far more exciting of a goal threat with Crouch on.Sorry that doesn't fit your hate Crouch agenda You live in cuckoo land 1 shot all game .. end Off convo
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 12, 2017 18:59:13 GMT
Would it be a bold or completely crazy move to consider loaning him out? Could goals at a lower level get him going somehow?
I really don't know what to think. He's just showing so little in any aspect of play.
It can't be long until he's dropped, and I don't know where he would go from there, confidence and playing time-wise.
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Post by TexasPotter on Aug 12, 2017 19:01:50 GMT
For me Berahino is that kid who goes missing when he's prairie dogging out a massive shit and also doesn't like taking over as the talisman. Wish he was vocal, pointing, yelling running towards people for the ball and eager to shoot. He has the physical attributes but needs the Defoe brain and grit.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 12, 2017 19:02:42 GMT
Sadly I don't think we can afford to sit on our hands any longer making excuses for him. He's had a pre-season, he's match fit, but we're getting very little from him and he's done nothing in any of the friendlies to suggest he's about to turn the corner. People keep saying that we're not playing to his strengths, but what are his strengths exactly? He's not very big, he's not fast, he's poor in the air and based on the evidence we've seen so far, not very good at finishing either. Crouch would be starting next week for me, with Joselu on the bench. Diouf then Joselu then Bony and now Berahino. Why have they all failed as strikers here mate? Either Hughes is consistently making terrible choices with the forwards he brings in, or he can't actually set his team up to create chances for his forwards. Either way it's a pretty damning.
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Post by RAF on Aug 12, 2017 19:05:52 GMT
Sadly I don't think we can afford to sit on our hands any longer making excuses for him. He's had a pre-season, he's match fit, but we're getting very little from him and he's done nothing in any of the friendlies to suggest he's about to turn the corner. People keep saying that we're not playing to his strengths, but what are his strengths exactly? He's not very big, he's not fast, he's poor in the air and based on the evidence we've seen so far, not very good at finishing either. Crouch would be starting next week for me, with Joselu on the bench. Diouf then Joselu then Bony and now Berahino. Why have they all failed as strikers here mate? Either Hughes is consistently making terrible choices with the forwards he brings in, or he can't actually set his team up to create chances for his forwards. Either way it's a pretty damning. Play Shaq as number 10, Sobhi on the left , Maxi on the right? We might see some fucking creativity! H
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 12, 2017 19:09:45 GMT
Unfortunately he is our weakest link! Works hard, but no goalthreat at all. He simply doesn't look like a striker! Needs to be sent out on loan to the Championship to gain some confidence! He will never be what we are looking for as things stand right now!
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