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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 12, 2017 16:16:51 GMT
The fact he has totally lost his pace during his period of inactivity is most worrying.
I really want him to succeed but watching him there, he won't take on his man, he's lost his edge.
He plays like bojan, like a complete pussy to be honest
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Post by redrob on Aug 12, 2017 16:20:27 GMT
I think he is done tbh. He is now fully fit and looks no closer to scoring than when he fist signed. I accept that MH doesn't have a bloody clue when it comes to tactics and clearly he doesn't fit into any system we try to play but his confidence must be on the floor I can't imagine that his team mates have any faith in him and it's only a matter of time before crowed get on at him so all in he's done
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Post by Dallas Cowboy on Aug 12, 2017 16:21:54 GMT
I think it's stick or twist time. Today we've battered them but haven't looked like scoring..... Until now Battered them? We were better first half, they were the better team after half time. Even game I would say. One mistake led to fat boy scoring and that was that. Have to agree with the Berahino no show though..... thought he was woeful today VERY low on confidence If you are low on confidence in the first game of a new season then maybe you are not cut out for football, at least at the Premier League level. Lack of service and the system we play does not excuse his lack of effort at closing players down or putting defenders under pressure. He just hovers in no-man's land and then makes a half-hearted move towards a defender two seconds after the defender has played the ball to someone else. He would be a great signing for Walsall. Sadly, that is his level at the moment. We cannot afford to carry someone who has lost their way.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 12, 2017 16:23:40 GMT
Every striker that Hughes has brought to the club has failed, is it really down to each one of them individually, or is there a theme developing here?
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Post by liamo on Aug 12, 2017 16:25:06 GMT
Every striker that Hughes has brought to the club has failed, is it really down to each one of them individually, or is there a theme developing here?
Pretty shocking considering our manager was one of the best in the world at his peak
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Post by TexasPotter on Aug 12, 2017 16:25:13 GMT
Every striker that Hughes has brought to the club has failed, is it really down to each one of them individually, or is there a theme developing here?
The theme is moving off the ball, we literally have no buzzing bees in midfield looking to pass forward or in one-twos, you literally could have Zlatan up there and he'd be as isolated.
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Post by Dallas Cowboy on Aug 12, 2017 16:26:14 GMT
The fact he has totally lost his pace during his period of inactivity is most worrying. I really want him to succeed but watching him there, he won't take on his man, he's lost his edge. He plays like bojan, like a complete pussy to be honest True but unlike Bojan he is incapable of showing flashes of brilliance or scoring the occasional goal. I would be open to offers or send him out on loan for the season to see if he can recover his old form.
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Post by Sfance on Aug 12, 2017 16:28:12 GMT
Saido Berahino - Tony Pulis' revenge.
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Post by cymap on Aug 12, 2017 16:29:09 GMT
Every striker that Hughes has brought to the club has failed, is it really down to each one of them individually, or is there a theme developing here?
This this this^^^^^^ you're bang on the money. Its quite obvious that every striker apart from an awkward Crouch that the midfield and so called wingbacks are creating nothing and that needs adressing fast or I really do fear that we may be in the mix this season at the wrong end.
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Post by steakandchips on Aug 12, 2017 16:29:19 GMT
Every striker that Hughes has brought to the club has failed, is it really down to each one of them individually, or is there a theme developing here?
Time to fuck him off. He’s so tactically inept it’s unreal
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Post by Clayton Wood on Aug 12, 2017 16:29:55 GMT
Every striker that Hughes has brought to the club has failed, is it really down to each one of them individually, or is there a theme developing here?
So who goes first Berahino or Hughes?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 12, 2017 16:29:59 GMT
He's gone it was an insane chase of a player no one wanted the ultimate exapme of our bankrupt transfer strategy 2 years without a goal
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Post by TexasPotter on Aug 12, 2017 16:30:46 GMT
Joselu is the better Striker in positioning and off the ball movement at angles. Berahino has lots to learn from him and others in that regard, very one dimensional he's like defoe always looking to run in between two cbs but that'll never happen with a 2 man midfield of fletcher touching the back 3 and Allen running around in 40 yards of abyss. Stupid tactics I say.
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Post by Dallas Cowboy on Aug 12, 2017 16:32:42 GMT
Every striker that Hughes has brought to the club has failed, is it really down to each one of them individually, or is there a theme developing here?
Diouf was reasonably successful in his first season. So I would not say every striker.
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Post by milky on Aug 12, 2017 16:33:15 GMT
He looks totally lost.
Either play someone alongside him or not at all.
I'd like see Joselu given a start next week.Not holding my breath though.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 12, 2017 16:33:43 GMT
He did fuck all today again he needs to play in the Championship for a year to get back whatever he once had .
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Post by Dallas Cowboy on Aug 12, 2017 16:34:03 GMT
Every striker that Hughes has brought to the club has failed, is it really down to each one of them individually, or is there a theme developing here?
Diouf was reasonably successful in his first season. So I would not say every striker.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 12, 2017 16:34:36 GMT
Saido Berahino - Tony Pulis' revenge. To be fair old Toxic did warn us !, this is another Hughes fuck up how many before he gets his marching orders.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 12, 2017 16:35:38 GMT
Every striker that Hughes has brought to the club has failed, is it really down to each one of them individually, or is there a theme developing here?
Diouf was reasonably successful in his first season. So I would not say every striker.
Hughes doesn't rate him as a striker does he?
That is absolutely clear.
Heck he's attempted to replace him twice (three times if you count the Bony loan).
Personally I think he's the best striker on our books but in the eyes of Hughes he is (as a striker) a failure.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 12, 2017 16:35:45 GMT
He did fuck all today again he needs to play in the Championship for a year to get back whatever he once had . He will be in the championship next season if Hughes persists with him up front.
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Post by ravey123 on Aug 12, 2017 16:36:40 GMT
Joselu is the better Striker in positioning and off the ball movement at angles. Berahino has lots to learn from him and others in that regard, very one dimensional he's like defoe always looking to run in between two cbs but that'll never happen with a 2 man midfield of fletcher touching the back 3 and Allen running around in 40 yards of abyss. Stupid tactics I say. I think we need to bench Saido, play Joselu in the next 2 or 3 games and if it looks like Joselu isn't going to cut it get the cheque book out before the window closes and send Berahino out on load til January. If we go past the end of August with the strikers we have without trying Joselu to see if he is the answer we are asking for a relegation battle.
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Post by pieman72 on Aug 12, 2017 16:37:34 GMT
He ain't good enough and a waste of £12 million
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Post by muglump on Aug 12, 2017 16:38:23 GMT
I don't like all this attacking one of our own players but jeez this guy couldn't score in a brothel. The best strikers make their own space and can score from not very much. He it seems can't do either. I don't feel sorry for him though he is drawing a huge wage.
Blaming the service doesn't work I'm afraid
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Post by Clem Fandango on Aug 12, 2017 16:40:42 GMT
Every striker that Hughes has brought to the club has failed, is it really down to each one of them individually, or is there a theme developing here?
Ive said the same thing a few times Paul we've to my eyes have almost tried every shape and size striker going. For whatever reason tactics, formation or movement the strikers don't seem to be getting any decent service.
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Post by heworksardtho on Aug 12, 2017 16:41:50 GMT
When will Hughes realise he's not a lone striker? I feel so sorry for him. He needs tonto up front with him
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Post by butlerstbob on Aug 12, 2017 16:42:55 GMT
Every striker that Hughes has brought to the club has failed, is it really down to each one of them individually, or is there a theme developing here?
I have said the same for a long time now, we could have any of your top strikers and they would all struggle, we just dont create anything for our strikers!!
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Post by TexasPotter on Aug 12, 2017 16:43:28 GMT
Joselu is the better Striker in positioning and off the ball movement at angles. Berahino has lots to learn from him and others in that regard, very one dimensional he's like defoe always looking to run in between two cbs but that'll never happen with a 2 man midfield of fletcher touching the back 3 and Allen running around in 40 yards of abyss. Stupid tactics I say. I think we need to bench Saido, play Joselu in the next 2 or 3 games and if it looks like Joselu isn't going to cut it get the cheque book out before the window closes and send Berahino out on load til January. If we go past the end of August with the strikers we have without trying Joselu to see if he is the answer we are asking for a relegation battle. I don't think getting rid of Bera is the issue, I think it is playing to his strengths. He's scored more with a partner than alone massively and Joss is our best striker and counter attacking threat as he can turn on a dime and run faster than Crouch who is better at holding but slower and one-twos. I'd have Sadio play off Joss. Butland Diouf Zouma Ryan Indi Pieters Cameron(Allen) Fletcher Shaq(Bojan) Joselu Bera (Chupo-Moting/Ramadan) That'd be my line-up every week pushing the triangle into their box. Got use the chess pieces right. Shaq is wasted out wide gets too tired and loses vision, Bojan the same. We lack a central threat and midfield in the shite we played today in the 3-4-2-1 we had width but no pace and no runners, we didn't even have that unless Arnie ran past their back line forcing them to collapse. That threat is gone sadly, we need to push the middle and then look wide from now on.
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Post by harrysburrow on Aug 12, 2017 16:44:41 GMT
Saido Berahino - Tony Pulis' revenge. All that fuss was just part of a great, master plan 😉
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 12, 2017 16:45:05 GMT
Every striker that Hughes has brought to the club has failed, is it really down to each one of them individually, or is there a theme developing here?
I have said the same for a long time now, we could have any of your top strikers and they would all struggle, we just dont create anything for our strikers!! So why do we do better when he isn't on ? We did today we did at Bolton sorry he just doesn't want it
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Post by superheroantonius on Aug 12, 2017 16:47:07 GMT
He did fuck all today again he needs to play in the Championship for a year to get back whatever he once had . He's not quick enough for the championship. Perhaps scottish football?
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