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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Aug 5, 2017 22:37:38 GMT
It's a shame that now I think there are huge question marks over Farah's performance, and his colabaration with Salazar. As there should be. Those inside the track and field community have a very skeptical opinion of Salazar. He turns previously clean athletes dirty, and it would be miraculous if Farah wasn't put under the same regimen. There is also Farah's relationship with an Ethiopian coach that ran a doping program and the fact that he missed two drug tests. Farah has been protected by Sebastian Coe and UK Athletics to a staggering degree. To be honest, anyone winning at the top level of atletics deserves some question marks - but some more than others. It really seems like the sport is rotten to the core.
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Post by duckling on Aug 5, 2017 22:43:52 GMT
To say Gatlin has two offenses is to be ignorant of what really happened the first time. The second time was totally his fault but the first time he was innocent. Due to a corrupt deal, he was made a sacrificial lamb. It's never been made public of course but I have a very reliable inside source. Send me a private message if you're interested as I can't say it on a public forum. Who cares, once is too many. Gatlin should never be allowed to compete. My point is that Gatlin is booed for being a supposedly two time cheater in a way that one time cheaters are not booed, but Gatlin actually was innocent the first time and was the victim of an appallingly corrupt deal.
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Post by salopstick on Aug 6, 2017 6:11:13 GMT
To say Gatlin has two offenses is to be ignorant of what really happened the first time. The second time was totally his fault but the first time he was innocent. Due to a corrupt deal, he was made a sacrificial lamb. It's never been made public of course but I have a very reliable inside source. Send me a private message if you're interested as I can't say it on a public forum. If true would make the second one even more stupid
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Post by felonious on Aug 6, 2017 6:16:17 GMT
Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 6, 2017 7:54:01 GMT
Maybe it's just me who was quite happy with the result of the 100m last night.
There's something wonderful about sport when the dramatic moment overtakes the sporting event. Last night the ultimate good guy got turned over by the baddest bad boy. It's like something from the WWE as the heel overcomes the baby face. On Friday Super Mo, the other athletics baby face, resisted the ganging up of the Kenyan trio to triumph.
Great sport is about achievement and drama.
As such yesterday was wonderful.
As to Gaitlin - he's done his time. The point being he's come back and managed something extraordinary. Well done fella.
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Post by duckling on Aug 6, 2017 9:33:00 GMT
To say Gatlin has two offenses is to be ignorant of what really happened the first time. The second time was totally his fault but the first time he was innocent. Due to a corrupt deal, he was made a sacrificial lamb. It's never been made public of course but I have a very reliable inside source. Send me a private message if you're interested as I can't say it on a public forum. If true would make the second one even more stupid Gatlin isn't a smart guy as anyone in the sport will tell you. It doesn't change my point. He was innocent the first time. He's referred to all the time as a two time cheat and is booed in a way a one time cheat is not.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Aug 6, 2017 10:02:06 GMT
First, I quite like the fact that Bolt lost. Nothing against Bolt, I just like to see a proper 'changing of the guard'. Whenever sports people go out at the top they must be left wondering if they went too soon. At least he and everyone else can see he is a spent force.
Second, much as seeing Gatlin win is unpleasant, in all other walks of life you commit a crime, you get punished, you do the time, you re-start your life. Why should sport be any different? Even murderers get released eventually (most of them).
If you really want to stop cheating in sport, the media should start referring publicly to athletes as the Nike-sponsored drugs cheat Justin Gatlin. The big corps will soon put a stop to it, whereas WADA and the like are just pissing in the wind. Russia has had a state doping system since 1968!
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Post by Gods on Aug 6, 2017 10:19:43 GMT
First, I quite like the fact that Bolt lost. Nothing against Bolt, I just like to see a proper 'changing of the guard'. Whenever sports people go out at the top they must be left wondering if they went too soon. At least he and everyone else can see he is a spent force. Second, much as seeing Gatlin win is unpleasant, in all other walks of life you commit a crime, you get punished, you do the time, you re-start your life. Why should sport be any different? Even murderers get released eventually (most of them). If you really want to stop cheating in sport, the media should start referring publicly to athletes as the Nike-sponsored drugs cheat Justin Gatlin. The big corps will soon put a stop to it, whereas WADA and the like are just pissing in the wind. Russia has had a state doping system since 1968! Yes I agree but the thing is Gatlin doesn't make the rules, for me if he is back and allowed in then he's in. What I don't like is the ignorance or partisanship of the crowd and the media. Yohan Blake who came 4th and was the only other man under 10 seconds has also had a doping ban. LaShawn Merritt who goes later today and is the World and Olympic champion for the 400 metres has been banned for a steroid doping offence which he claimed was in a penis enlargement product he bought. No one boos Blake or Merritt. In fact no human who has ever gone under 9.79 for the 100 metres apart from Bolt has not had a doping ban. It's rife and I just don't think its fair that Gatlin takes all the flack.
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Post by essexstokey on Aug 6, 2017 10:31:23 GMT
First, I quite like the fact that Bolt lost. Nothing against Bolt, I just like to see a proper 'changing of the guard'. Whenever sports people go out at the top they must be left wondering if they went too soon. At least he and everyone else can see he is a spent force. Second, much as seeing Gatlin win is unpleasant, in all other walks of life you commit a crime, you get punished, you do the time, you re-start your life. Why should sport be any different? Even murderers get released eventually (most of them). If you really want to stop cheating in sport, the media should start referring publicly to athletes as the Nike-sponsored drugs cheat Justin Gatlin. The big corps will soon put a stop to it, whereas WADA and the like are just pissing in the wind. Russia has had a state doping system since 1968! East Germany had a state sponsored scheme and ask yourself where there coaches went to, Its been suspected for years about Russia china, Kenya and a lot of old eastern block countries if you read what some British former world champions had to put there bodies through to compete. one ex British athlete was force feeding themselves and doing countless hours in the gym to compete against the eastern Europeans.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 14:17:05 GMT
Go Ali Dixon 🏃
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Post by rat on Aug 6, 2017 14:37:54 GMT
Now they're changing the time of the 100m medal ceremony back, so that Gatlin and the US national anthem don't get booed on live TV.
I think lots of people in track and field think doping should be a lifetime ban....hence the boo's.
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Post by Gods on Aug 7, 2017 21:35:02 GMT
Laura Muir agonisingly misses out in a breathtaking 1500 metres race.
Does that mean no medals at all for Team GB apart from Sir Mo?
Who am I forgetting? Always a chance in the relays I suppose...
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Post by felonious on Aug 8, 2017 7:11:39 GMT
Laura Muir agonisingly misses out in a breathtaking 1500 metres race. Does that mean no medals at all for Team GB apart from Sir Mo? Who am I forgetting? Always a chance in the relays I suppose... You're forgetting.....Laura Muir
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 8, 2017 14:35:18 GMT
It's a shame that now I think there are huge question marks over Farah's performance, and his colabaration with Salazar. As there should be. Those inside the track and field community have a very skeptical opinion of Salazar. He turns previously clean athletes dirty, and it would be miraculous if Farah wasn't put under the same regimen. There is also Farah's relationship with an Ethiopian coach that ran a doping program and the fact that he missed two drug tests. Farah has been protected by Sebastian Coe and UK Athletics to a staggering degree. I always wonder about athletes who improve beyond recognition. I remember Farah fading at the end of races and getting nowhere near the first three. Suddenly he never looks like losing? Nah. It's like Flo Jo all over again.
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Post by Gods on Aug 11, 2017 14:31:49 GMT
How good is this?!
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Post by duckling on Aug 11, 2017 17:04:19 GMT
Here's a good article on the doping suspicions surrounding Mo Farah. My inside source, in addition to working for a national athletics body, is a good friend of one of the 8 people who blew the whistle on Salazar. Salazar athletes are involved with very shady practices. Sometimes these are not outright illegal but in the gray zone of legality - dubiously claiming to have a disease that would allow the use of an otherwise banned substance for example - much like the Bradley Wiggins case. www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/aug/11/mo-farah-track-legacy-world-athletics-championships
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Post by muglump on Aug 11, 2017 20:39:18 GMT
Some pleasant girl on girl action at the end of the steeplechase
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Post by Northy on Aug 11, 2017 21:03:52 GMT
that schippers is a fine looking lass
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Post by Gods on Aug 12, 2017 21:08:36 GMT
A staggering performance by the GB 4x100 boys, gold in the 3rd fastest time in history!
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Post by chuffedstokie on Aug 12, 2017 21:18:50 GMT
Shit hot weren't they.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 6:06:37 GMT
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Post by essexstokey on Aug 13, 2017 7:27:38 GMT
Don't you think its rather funny that after years of dominance in long distance Kenya and years of dominance in sprints Jamaica both have not done that that well on the international stage this year this just so happens to coincide with a stricter dope testing in these countries and a more stringent approach to drugs doping in the sport
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Post by Gods on Aug 13, 2017 9:15:39 GMT
Don't you think its rather funny that after years of dominance in long distance Kenya and years of dominance in sprints Jamaica both have not done that that well on the international stage this year this just so happens to coincide with a stricter dope testing in these countries and a more stringent approach to drugs doping in the sport I think that is a good observation with regard to those 2 nations who I understand have had very slack testing regimes in the past. Note too that it was the slowest 100 metres final for 14 years and incredibly no man under 20 seconds in the 200 metres final. Either the human race is getting slower despite all the technical advances and humans getting bigger and stronger or we are getting on top of the doping. I know which one I believe. I'm going along again tonight to the stadium.
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Post by liathroid on Aug 13, 2017 9:55:08 GMT
Cram must be feeling awful this morning after having to swallow his own sick last night
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Post by essexstokey on Aug 13, 2017 10:16:11 GMT
Don't you think its rather funny that after years of dominance in long distance Kenya and years of dominance in sprints Jamaica both have not done that that well on the international stage this year this just so happens to coincide with a stricter dope testing in these countries and a more stringent approach to drugs doping in the sport I think that is a good observation with regard to those 2 nations who I understand have had very slack testing regimes in the past. Note too that it was the slowest 100 metres final for 14 years and incredibly no man under 20 seconds in the 200 metres final. Either the human race is getting slower despite all the technical advances and humans getting bigger and stronger or we are getting on top of the doping. I know which one I believe. I'm going along again tonight to the stadium. Should be a good night hope we can get at least 1 more meddle
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Post by essexstokey on Aug 13, 2017 10:19:35 GMT
One of my highlights on the commentating is how good steve backley and Toni Minichiello are
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 10:30:48 GMT
I think that is a good observation with regard to those 2 nations who I understand have had very slack testing regimes in the past. Note too that it was the slowest 100 metres final for 14 years and incredibly no man under 20 seconds in the 200 metres final. Either the human race is getting slower despite all the technical advances and humans getting bigger and stronger or we are getting on top of the doping. I know which one I believe. I'm going along again tonight to the stadium. Should be a good night hope we can get at least 1 more meddle A MEDDLE....Like Scooby Doo...Those Meddling Kids...
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Post by Gods on Aug 13, 2017 10:33:34 GMT
One of my highlights on the commentating is how good steve backley and Toni Minichiello are Toni Minichiello has been an absolute revelation. I learn something every time he opens his mouth. It's not hard to see how he was the brains behind the Jess Ennis success story. You just think to yourself if he could get his hands on Katrina Johnson-Thompson(not literally of course although it would be very pleasant) then he could make her a medal winner too.
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Post by Gods on Aug 13, 2017 10:35:48 GMT
Should be a good night hope we can get at least 1 more meddle A MEDDLE....Like Scooby Doo...Those Meddling Kids... I wouldn't mind a meddle with that Ukrainian girl in the high jump Sorry no pic, I can't make Tinypic work on here anymore for some reason, how the heck do you post a picture these days?!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 11:02:06 GMT
A MEDDLE....Like Scooby Doo...Those Meddling Kids... I wouldn't mind a meddle with that Ukrainian girl in the high jump Sorry no pic, I can't make Tinypic work on here anymore for some reason, how the heck do you post a picture these days?! This one... PS...I think you can only post pics as attachments when you are either replying to, or answering a post... Attachment Deleted
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