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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Aug 3, 2017 10:30:42 GMT
more like millions . Name me one we found in the last 25years who started st youth and left us complete to play at a higher level Andy Griffin You could also argue Kris Commons and Ben Foster.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 10:35:34 GMT
Are you suggesting that both parties want out but neither party wants to pay for it? I'm suggesting exactly that yes. That thought has crossed my mind too. I can't quite see Bet365 taking that risk though, unless they have someone lined up and ready to come in should it drag on into the season.
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Post by stokeykez on Aug 3, 2017 10:38:15 GMT
Has it crossed anyone's mind that were mark Hughes to be sacked , contractually, he'd be entitled to a ridiculous pay off? Hughes seems to be doing things that could be construed as trying to get himself sacked whilst the club seem to be embarking on an approach that would see any manager worth his salt resigning at the first opportunity. Are you suggesting that both parties want out but neither party wants to pay for it? I have thought and suggested this fir a long time, I still believe penny pinching Stoke are trying to push sparky to the edge of resignation, no pay off required. What worries me is the length of time this may take, I still have a feeling the strings have been tightened, hr has been told to improve from last season but been limited to what he gets to work with now. Meanwhile night dam who retired and has now nit surprisingly popped.up and said he would consider another international job, so putting himself in the window. He is English and has redeemed himself, he will he in but November mark my words but Stoke are trying to avoid a severance pay out to hughes. Let's just hope it's not at the detriment of our season
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Post by stokeykez on Aug 3, 2017 10:39:23 GMT
Are you suggesting that both parties want out but neither party wants to pay for it? I have thought and suggested this fir a long time, I still believe penny pinching Stoke are trying to push sparky to the edge of resignation, no pay off required. What worries me is the length of time this may take, I still have a feeling the strings have been tightened, hr has been told to improve from last season but been limited to what he gets to work with now. Meanwhile night dam who retired and has now nit surprisingly popped.up and said he would consider another international job, so putting himself in the window. He is English and has redeemed himself, he will he in but November mark my words but Stoke are trying to avoid a severance pay out to hughes. Let's just hope it's not at the detriment of our season Big Sam not night dam!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 3, 2017 10:43:16 GMT
I have thought and suggested this fir a long time, I still believe penny pinching Stoke are trying to push sparky to the edge of resignation, no pay off required. What worries me is the length of time this may take, I still have a feeling the strings have been tightened, hr has been told to improve from last season but been limited to what he gets to work with now. Meanwhile night dam who retired and has now nit surprisingly popped.up and said he would consider another international job, so putting himself in the window. He is English and has redeemed himself, he will he in but November mark my words but Stoke are trying to avoid a severance pay out to hughes. Let's just hope it's not at the detriment of our season Big Sam not night dam! Big Sam would enjoy a Night in Dam.
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Post by mickmacc on Aug 3, 2017 10:52:48 GMT
£1M OR £2M you're kidding.Youth team players are going for that.
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Post by Davef on Aug 3, 2017 11:11:45 GMT
There are people here criticising Cartwright who quite clearly haven't clicked the link or read the article.
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Post by devondumpling on Aug 3, 2017 11:19:55 GMT
Why not take his comments contextually rather than hang onto his words as if they're gospel. Forget the figures he's quoted and insert reality. As Bayern says above, I think the premise is excellent tbh. But what planet is he living in with the comment about 1 million pound players being in the first team?Two things could scupper the long-term vision: Brexit, and how fickle the modern Stoke fans are. I'm not sure they could get away with such a sensible plan. OS. Go on then, I'm up for it. Brexit is/will be blamed for every negative think in this country (by some people and the Financial times) but what the heck has it got to do with this?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 3, 2017 11:27:18 GMT
There are people here criticising Cartwright who quite clearly haven't clicked the link or read the article. I have. His opening comment on the £1M players is just utter nonsense. The concept is good but as old as the hills and you wonder why its taken the club and its shiny recruitment director 5 years to come up with it? Finally and most importantly...WHAT ABOUT THE FUCKING FRONT OF HOUSE?!!
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Post by lordb on Aug 3, 2017 11:30:25 GMT
There are people here criticising Cartwright who quite clearly haven't clicked the link or read the article. I have. His opening comment on the £1M players is just utter nonsense. The concept is good but as old as the hills and you wonder why its taken the club and its shiny recruitment director 5 years to come up with it? Finally and most importantly...WHAT ABOUT THE FUCKING FRONT OF HOUSE?!! It,front of house, absolutely is important however that wasn't what Cartwright was talking about.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 3, 2017 11:36:54 GMT
I have. His opening comment on the £1M players is just utter nonsense. The concept is good but as old as the hills and you wonder why its taken the club and its shiny recruitment director 5 years to come up with it? Finally and most importantly...WHAT ABOUT THE FUCKING FRONT OF HOUSE?!! It,front of house, absolutely is important however that wasn't what Cartwright was talking about. Oh yeah, his lack of comments on front of house speak volumes, Lord. Let's face it we're being softened up for jam tomorrow and a shit sandwich today. The strap on has definitely been wielded I'm afraid and I doubt we'll get much more than the Arnie fee away come the end of August.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Aug 3, 2017 11:41:27 GMT
It reminds me of Football Manager game where you filter on players valued between 1-2 million in value and with creativity value above 18.
Is this Cartwrights little secret? He just got a new computer for his birthday?
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Post by ashley luiz on Aug 3, 2017 11:41:54 GMT
You could also argue Kris Commons and Ben Foster. hahah point proven and ben foster never ever played for stoke and we sold him for how much? and commons went away on a free then a massive fee of 300k sort it out is that all we have to show for youth..andy griffin haha
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Post by nsd on Aug 3, 2017 11:48:00 GMT
Why not take his comments contextually rather than hang onto his words as if they're gospel. Forget the figures he's quoted and insert reality. As Bayern says above, I think the premise is excellent tbh. But what planet is he living in with the comment about 1 million pound players being in the first team?Two things could scupper the long-term vision: Brexit, and how fickle the modern Stoke fans are. I'm not sure they could get away with such a sensible plan. OS. Go on then, I'm up for it. Brexit is/will be blamed for every negative think in this country (by some people and the Financial times) but what the heck has it got to do with this? Generally the idea with foreign feeder clubs is you sign a non-EU player who won't get a work permit, send him on loan to a country with no WP rules, and wait 3/4 years until he is eligible for citizenship. With Brexit happening, the EU citizenship doesn't mean anything. However this is all conjecture. I don't think this is the type of partnership we are going For, as German citizenship takes about 8 years to get through residence.
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Post by puddledpotter on Aug 3, 2017 12:22:29 GMT
A number of clubs are going down this route, Chelsea have I understand at any one time about 40 players on loan at various clubs across Europe and have managed to develop players such as Nathan Ake who has just been transferred for a reported £20 million keeping the accountants and shareholders happy. I can see the attraction of it and suspect that this strategy is driven by the likelihood of future economic events rather than penny pinching or forcing a manager out. Interestingly the FSF survey is out today and despite attendance levels supporters are talking about feeling a disconnection with their clubs, the premier league seem to have been almost dismissive of this view claiming that their evidence (not disclosed) does not support this, a business that ignores it customers is taking a risk. There is a feeling that the premier league is more concerned with enlarging a global brand than the views of supporters without whom the marketed product becomes less attractive to a television audience. I don't claim to be able to forecast the future but the TV money cannot keep increasing, players wages, agents and transfer fees cannot keep rising as there is a limit on the amount of money in circulation and alternative sources of football such as the woman's game are likely at some stage start to absorb some of the money. Without the large fan base of the wealthier clubs who can plug a shortfall by selling another boat load of replica shirts abroad those with a smaller supporter base may need to be generating income a different way and if carried out well this strategy has the potential to ensure the long term sustainability of these clubs which includes ours.
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Aug 3, 2017 12:26:40 GMT
Big Sam would enjoy a Night in Dam.
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Post by AlanHansen on Aug 3, 2017 13:04:57 GMT
You don't save for a rainy day when it's pissing down! Quality analogy... And it ain't half about to piss down. There's a good few happy clappers on here in for one hell of a storm.
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Post by AlanHansen on Aug 3, 2017 13:19:51 GMT
Re buying players for a million or two. We couldn't spot a player like this if one ripped us a new arsehole playing against us in the cup.
I remember Josh King, then Blackburn reserve did exactly that in the FA Cup.
Young, strong, fast and an eye for goal, he took us apart. He was the exact type of player to take a chance on as I said at the time. And we still missed out on him. He's now worth millions and scored goals for fun last season. If he'd gone tits up we'd have lost a million, not even half a Danny Collins.
Now though isn't really the time to be trying anything out. We need tried and trusted quality, and asap. Or we're going down and fast.
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Aug 3, 2017 13:39:43 GMT
You could also argue Kris Commons and Ben Foster. hahah point proven and ben foster never ever played for stoke and we sold him for how much? and commons went away on a free then a massive fee of 300k sort it out is that all we have to show for youth..andy griffin haha I thought we sold Ben Foster for £1m as a 3rd tier club. Not sure what point you're trying to make. Nobody is saying we have the world's greatest academy or youth set up, and it's also a factor that we've been a lower league club for a number of years in a very competitive area. We have developed young players though. There was a time when Ryan Shawcross might have been sold at profit, and Begovic and Butland both came as young players that then broke into our first team. You could make a case for N'Zonzi and Arnautovic. It's going to be part of our model to develop players from the academy or as "cheaper" young players. We're trying to develop the club in these areas and I don't know why you would knock that. For what it's worth, I think the club have really fast-tracked the Academy in recent years. There is clearly a desire to use this as either a way of finding and developing first team players or as another revenue stream by moving them on.
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Post by AlanHansen on Aug 3, 2017 13:46:28 GMT
hahah point proven and ben foster never ever played for stoke and we sold him for how much? and commons went away on a free then a massive fee of 300k sort it out is that all we have to show for youth..andy griffin haha I thought we sold Ben Foster for £1m as a 3rd tier club. Not sure what point you're trying to make. Nobody is saying we have the world's greatest academy or youth set up, and it's also a factor that we've been a lower league club for a number of years in a very competitive area. We have developed young players though. There was a time when Ryan Shawcross might have been sold at profit, and Begovic and Butland both came as young players that then broke into our first team. You could make a case for N'Zonzi and Arnautovic. It's going to be part of our model to develop players from the academy or as "cheaper" young players. We're trying to develop the club in these areas and I don't know why you would knock that. For what it's worth, I think the club have really fast-tracked the Academy in recent years. There is clearly a desire to use this as either a way of finding and developing first team players or as another revenue stream by moving them on. There does appear to be a few on the very fringes at the moment. But they'll not come through quick enough to save our arses this season.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Aug 3, 2017 13:50:19 GMT
Are you suggesting that both parties want out but neither party wants to pay for it? I'm suggesting exactly that yes. I'm not interpreting it that way, I don't detect any kind of impasse.. For so many reasons. From the start of Hughes time here it's been the plan, explicitly stated by Peter Coates plenty of times.. "Two or three a season from the Academy breaking into the matchday squad." Evidenced by the low net transfer spend, less than £10m a season as we stand, now the Arnie money's come in, the first of Hughes' 'projects' to bear fruit. Continued investment in youth. And the retention of the older players to bridge the gap so that it can happen. I'm pretty sure Coates and the bean counters are over the moon with how it's going. {wages and Academy etc covered by tv money etc} The tanker is turning, changing our way of doing business for players. It's not come as a surprise to Hughes and co, their operating environment hasn't changed this summer. It's what he bought into. It would be more likely for Hughes to hang on rather than resign for financial and credibility reasons, but he's one of the lowest earners, to pay him off would be about £2m? I don't think that would stand in the way of a Bet365 decision and a wasted window for a new man. Didn't look like much of a stand off when they were singing Delilah at Ascot. I could be wrong but I reckon it's more likely Hughes & co and Peter will leave together, than an imminent parting of ways..
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Post by redwalter on Aug 3, 2017 14:02:09 GMT
Cartwright is a joke What has he unearthed in 5 yrs nothing,nil,zero What happened with the link up with Orlando zip
We went over for a friendly didn't even get into their stadium played in a campus
We now have a link up with St. Paul but don't even sign a young first team player for a £mill from a club to send him over Cartwright non league earning a good wage in the prem
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 3, 2017 14:03:32 GMT
I'm suggesting exactly that yes. I'm not interpreting it that way, I don't detect any kind of impasse.. For so many reasons. From the start of Hughes time here it's been the plan, explicitly stated by Peter Coates plenty of times.. "Two or three a season from the Academy breaking into the matchday squad." Evidenced by the low net transfer spend, less than £10m a season as we stand, now the Arnie money's come in, the first of Hughes' 'projects' to bear fruit. Continued investment in youth. And the retention of the older players to bridge the gap so that it can happen. I'm pretty sure Coates and the bean counters are over the moon with how it's going. {wages and Academy etc covered by tv money etc} The tanker is turning, changing our way of doing business for players. It's not come as a surprise to Hughes and co, their operating environment hasn't changed this summer. It's what he bought into. It would be more likely for Hughes to hang on rather than resign for financial and credibility reasons, but he's one of the lowest earners, to pay him off would be about £2m? I don't think that would stand in the way of a Bet365 decision and a wasted window for a new man. Didn't look like much of a stand off when they were singing Delilah at Ascot. I could be wrong but I reckon it's more likely Hughes & co and Peter will leave together, than an imminent parting of ways.. The situation we're in is that the £15M record signing is a failure, we've lost our best player for under the odds, shoe horning our second highest signing of £13M is causing systemic failure all over the pitch, our full backs are shit, we're still a centre half down, our captain is out of form and soon to be out of contract and the jury is firmly out on the centre forward we've chased for eons. Further to this we've got rid of some of the biggest characters in the dressing room, we have even less pace than we did last year and we've beaten one team above us in the league in twelve months. What's the he head of recruitment talking about? Policies that might come to fruition in 8 frigging years time. If I was Hughes, I'd be fucking livid, yet he just sits there with that inane grin on his face. Whatever the real story, we're sleepwalking towards the Championship.
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Post by Gods on Aug 3, 2017 14:08:39 GMT
I'm not interpreting it that way, I don't detect any kind of impasse.. For so many reasons. From the start of Hughes time here it's been the plan, explicitly stated by Peter Coates plenty of times.. "Two or three a season from the Academy breaking into the matchday squad." Evidenced by the low net transfer spend, less than £10m a season as we stand, now the Arnie money's come in, the first of Hughes' 'projects' to bear fruit. Continued investment in youth. And the retention of the older players to bridge the gap so that it can happen. I'm pretty sure Coates and the bean counters are over the moon with how it's going. {wages and Academy etc covered by tv money etc} The tanker is turning, changing our way of doing business for players. It's not come as a surprise to Hughes and co, their operating environment hasn't changed this summer. It's what he bought into. It would be more likely for Hughes to hang on rather than resign for financial and credibility reasons, but he's one of the lowest earners, to pay him off would be about £2m? I don't think that would stand in the way of a Bet365 decision and a wasted window for a new man. Didn't look like much of a stand off when they were singing Delilah at Ascot. I could be wrong but I reckon it's more likely Hughes & co and Peter will leave together, than an imminent parting of ways.. The situation we're in is that the £15M record signing is a failure, we've lost our best player for under the odds, shoe horning our second highest signing of £13M is causing systemic failure all over the pitch, our full backs are shit, we're still a centre half down, our captain is out of form and soon to be out of contract and the jury is firmly out on the centre forward we've chased for eons. Further to this we've got rid of some of the biggest characters in the dressing room, we have even less pace than we did last year and we've been one team above us in the league in twelve months. What's the he head of recruitment talking about? Policies that might come to fruition in 8 frigging years time. If I was Hughes, I'd be fucking livid, yet he just sits there with that inane grin on his face. Whatever the real story, we're sleepwalking towards the Championship. £18.3 million otherwise that's about the gist of it.
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Post by AlanHansen on Aug 3, 2017 14:14:25 GMT
I'm not interpreting it that way, I don't detect any kind of impasse.. For so many reasons. From the start of Hughes time here it's been the plan, explicitly stated by Peter Coates plenty of times.. "Two or three a season from the Academy breaking into the matchday squad." Evidenced by the low net transfer spend, less than £10m a season as we stand, now the Arnie money's come in, the first of Hughes' 'projects' to bear fruit. Continued investment in youth. And the retention of the older players to bridge the gap so that it can happen. I'm pretty sure Coates and the bean counters are over the moon with how it's going. {wages and Academy etc covered by tv money etc} The tanker is turning, changing our way of doing business for players. It's not come as a surprise to Hughes and co, their operating environment hasn't changed this summer. It's what he bought into. It would be more likely for Hughes to hang on rather than resign for financial and credibility reasons, but he's one of the lowest earners, to pay him off would be about £2m? I don't think that would stand in the way of a Bet365 decision and a wasted window for a new man. Didn't look like much of a stand off when they were singing Delilah at Ascot. I could be wrong but I reckon it's more likely Hughes & co and Peter will leave together, than an imminent parting of ways.. The situation we're in is that the £15M record signing is a failure, we've lost our best player for under the odds, shoe horning our second highest signing of £13M is causing systemic failure all over the pitch, our full backs are shit, we're still a centre half down, our captain is out of form and soon to be out of contract and the jury is firmly out on the centre forward we've chased for eons. Further to this we've got rid of some of the biggest characters in the dressing room, we have even less pace than we did last year and we've been one team above us in the league in twelve months. What's the he head of recruitment talking about? Policies that might come to fruition in 8 frigging years time. If I was Hughes, I'd be fucking livid, yet he just sits there with that inane grin on his face. Whatever the real story, we're sleepwalking towards the Championship. Summarised perfectly 👏👏.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Aug 3, 2017 14:17:30 GMT
I'm not interpreting it that way, I don't detect any kind of impasse.. For so many reasons. From the start of Hughes time here it's been the plan, explicitly stated by Peter Coates plenty of times.. "Two or three a season from the Academy breaking into the matchday squad." Evidenced by the low net transfer spend, less than £10m a season as we stand, now the Arnie money's come in, the first of Hughes' 'projects' to bear fruit. Continued investment in youth. And the retention of the older players to bridge the gap so that it can happen. I'm pretty sure Coates and the bean counters are over the moon with how it's going. {wages and Academy etc covered by tv money etc} The tanker is turning, changing our way of doing business for players. It's not come as a surprise to Hughes and co, their operating environment hasn't changed this summer. It's what he bought into. It would be more likely for Hughes to hang on rather than resign for financial and credibility reasons, but he's one of the lowest earners, to pay him off would be about £2m? I don't think that would stand in the way of a Bet365 decision and a wasted window for a new man. Didn't look like much of a stand off when they were singing Delilah at Ascot. I could be wrong but I reckon it's more likely Hughes & co and Peter will leave together, than an imminent parting of ways.. The situation we're in is that the £15M record signing is a failure, we've lost our best player for under the odds, shoe horning our second highest signing of £13M is causing systemic failure all over the pitch, our full backs are shit, we're still a centre half down, our captain is out of form and soon to be out of contract and the jury is firmly out on the centre forward we've chased for eons. Further to this we've got rid of some of the biggest characters in the dressing room, we have even less pace than we did last year and we've been one team above us in the league in twelve months. What's the he head of recruitment talking about? Policies that might come to fruition in 8 frigging years time. If I was Hughes, I'd be fucking livid, yet he just sits there with that inane grin on his face. Whatever the real story, we're sleepwalking towards the Championship. Wollscheid's back though. You just havn't got the necessary nads to embrace transition. I'm not going to feed the gloom by addressing all your points, I didn't see last season as any kind of disaster. I'll be heartily disappointed if we don't snare Bruno, but even that will be softened by the addition of Zouma. Feel more confident they've sussed out Shaq's calves and we'll get more game time and goals and stuff. Joselu's looking funky. We've nicked our rivals' captain. There's bound to be more business. Though there's always extra inherent risks in 'projects'. Prepared to see the window out before joining the feeding frenzy. I like the idea of a paired down squad and a smattering of youth. Still confident in Hughes' ability to keep us up.
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Post by Clem Fandango on Aug 3, 2017 14:17:48 GMT
I'm not interpreting it that way, I don't detect any kind of impasse.. For so many reasons. From the start of Hughes time here it's been the plan, explicitly stated by Peter Coates plenty of times.. "Two or three a season from the Academy breaking into the matchday squad." Evidenced by the low net transfer spend, less than £10m a season as we stand, now the Arnie money's come in, the first of Hughes' 'projects' to bear fruit. Continued investment in youth. And the retention of the older players to bridge the gap so that it can happen. I'm pretty sure Coates and the bean counters are over the moon with how it's going. {wages and Academy etc covered by tv money etc} The tanker is turning, changing our way of doing business for players. It's not come as a surprise to Hughes and co, their operating environment hasn't changed this summer. It's what he bought into. It would be more likely for Hughes to hang on rather than resign for financial and credibility reasons, but he's one of the lowest earners, to pay him off would be about £2m? I don't think that would stand in the way of a Bet365 decision and a wasted window for a new man. Didn't look like much of a stand off when they were singing Delilah at Ascot. I could be wrong but I reckon it's more likely Hughes & co and Peter will leave together, than an imminent parting of ways.. The situation we're in is that the £15M record signing is a failure, we've lost our best player for under the odds, shoe horning our second highest signing of £13M is causing systemic failure all over the pitch, our full backs are shit, we're still a centre half down, our captain is out of form and soon to be out of contract and the jury is firmly out on the centre forward we've chased for eons. Further to this we've got rid of some of the biggest characters in the dressing room, we have even less pace than we did last year and we've been one team above us in the league in twelve months. What's the he head of recruitment talking about? Policies that might come to fruition in 8 frigging years time. If I was Hughes, I'd be fucking livid, yet he just sits there with that inane grin on his face. Whatever the real story, we're sleepwalking towards the Championship. Something seems pretty rotten at the club at the moment.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 3, 2017 14:26:27 GMT
The situation we're in is that the £15M record signing is a failure, we've lost our best player for under the odds, shoe horning our second highest signing of £13M is causing systemic failure all over the pitch, our full backs are shit, we're still a centre half down, our captain is out of form and soon to be out of contract and the jury is firmly out on the centre forward we've chased for eons. Further to this we've got rid of some of the biggest characters in the dressing room, we have even less pace than we did last year and we've been one team above us in the league in twelve months. What's the he head of recruitment talking about? Policies that might come to fruition in 8 frigging years time. If I was Hughes, I'd be fucking livid, yet he just sits there with that inane grin on his face. Whatever the real story, we're sleepwalking towards the Championship. Wollscheid's back though. You just havn't got the necessary nads to embrace transition. I'm not going to feed the gloom by addressing all your points, I didn't see last season as any kind of disaster. I'll be heartily disappointed if we don't snare Bruno, but even that will be softened by the addition of Zouma. Feel more confident they've sussed out Shaq's calves and we'll get more game time and goals and stuff. Joselu's looking funky. We've nicked our rivals' captain. There's bound to be more business. Though there's always extra inherent risks in 'projects'. Prepared to see the window out before joining the feeding frenzy. I like the idea of a paired down squad and a smattering of youth. Still confident in Hughes' ability to keep us up. Of course we'll get players in, of that there's no doubt and you put a more positive spin on it than me and fair play but even in your own words Mr Freex "Still confident in Hughes' ability to keep us up."Who'd have thought that would be the positive view a season and a half on from us blowing the Manchester clubs to Kingdom Come?
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Post by rat on Aug 3, 2017 14:30:20 GMT
A number of clubs are going down this route, Chelsea have I understand at any one time about 40 players on loan at various clubs across Europe and have managed to develop players such as Nathan Ake who has just been transferred for a reported £20 million keeping the accountants and shareholders happy. I can see the attraction of it and suspect that this strategy is driven by the likelihood of future economic events rather than penny pinching or forcing a manager out. Interestingly the FSF survey is out today and despite attendance levels supporters are talking about feeling a disconnection with their clubs, the premier league seem to have been almost dismissive of this view claiming that their evidence (not disclosed) does not support this, a business that ignores it customers is taking a risk. There is a feeling that the premier league is more concerned with enlarging a global brand than the views of supporters without whom the marketed product becomes less attractive to a television audience. I don't claim to be able to forecast the future but the TV money cannot keep increasing, players wages, agents and transfer fees cannot keep rising as there is a limit on the amount of money in circulation and alternative sources of football such as the woman's game are likely at some stage start to absorb some of the money. Without the large fan base of the wealthier clubs who can plug a shortfall by selling another boat load of replica shirts abroad those with a smaller supporter base may need to be generating income a different way and if carried out well this strategy has the potential to ensure the long term sustainability of these clubs which includes ours. Good post. Was listening to TalkSport this afternoon and how the Neymar transfer to PSG is being knocked back by the Spanish FA. They reckon it will unsettle matters financially in Spain and possibly even here with a reputed Barcelona punt on Coutinho for £100mill, then Liverpool will go shopping for a name at a massively increased cost. I get the feeling that football, particularly for the big clubs, is getting to a similar same stage that rallying got to with Group B cars in the eighties. Out of fucking control.
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Post by robstokie on Aug 3, 2017 14:40:32 GMT
Talks a lot, but actually says very little - bar, of course, the waffle that's designed to make him look intelligent (it isn't working MC).
If he had something to say, I would rather it be his and Scholes justification for getting rid of Arnie to rivals, SJW and Whelan for peanuts and, here's the big one, why did he bust a nut to give Glen Fucking Johnson an extension?
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