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Post by Brist_AL on Jul 3, 2017 21:09:34 GMT
So by the end of September we will have played 7 games. If we have 21 points MH is a genius if we none he is probably sacked and somewhere in-between he is OK, but realistically where are the splits?
15+ Genius
10 - 15 Better than expected
5 - 10 OK
0 - 5 Sacked
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 3, 2017 21:13:53 GMT
0-5
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Post by 1982stokie on Jul 3, 2017 21:24:50 GMT
0 - 5 for me I just can't help a feeling of impending doom this season, it must be catching when you read to much oatcake
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Post by Silkystoke on Jul 3, 2017 21:27:43 GMT
Think we will have about 7/8 points, and about 4/5 from the bottom...!!!!! But Oct/ Nov are crackers and we will be 9th.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 21:30:37 GMT
Fuck me roll on the new season.....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 21:33:57 GMT
Are you asking, what will be the points tally, in the new season, after 7 games? If so, what relevance does that have to the whole season?
Or is this just a thread to show dissent against LMH (OBE)?
How can any sensible fan form an opinion on the future of LMH (OBE), after a tough seven game start to the season?
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Post by lordb on Jul 3, 2017 21:47:13 GMT
What if we get 15 points, from really tough fixtures,but then get 5 points from the next 7 easier ones?
Edit: I don't think we will get 15 points from the first seven games by the way.
Just think that although we didn't beat any of the top sides last season we have before plenty of times but what usually goes with that is sloppy defeats to poor sides.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 21:51:20 GMT
I think he should have already gone tbh, however as he hasn't then I hope he proves me wrong as no matter what manager (idiot) whatever we have in charge I want us to win.
The results may well be a side show and the way the team play could be of more importance.
They know they have a tough start if they lie down then that will imo spell the end , if they give their all however what more can anyone ask. the managers job is to get the best out of his squad. No where does it state he has to perform miracles against the top sides.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 21:52:31 GMT
What if we get 15 points, from really tough fixtures,but then get 5 points from the next 7 easier ones? Edit: I don't think we will get 15 points from the first seven games by the way. Just think that although we didn't beat any of the top sides last season we have before plenty of times but what usually goes with that is sloppy defeats to poor sides. Or what if we get 21 points from the first seven games, and none from the next seven? |
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Post by lordb on Jul 3, 2017 21:52:54 GMT
I think he should have already gone tbh, however as he hasn't then I hope he proves me wrong as no matter what manager (idiot) whatever we have in charge I want us to win. The results may well be a side show and the way the team play could be of more importance. They know they have a tough start if they lie down then that will imo spell the end , if they give their all however what more can anyone ask. the managers job is to get the best out of his squad. No where does it state he has to perform miracles against the top sides. So if they show fight and spirit that would be enough to keep you board? Obviously as fans we want everything. |
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Post by lordb on Jul 3, 2017 21:53:31 GMT
What if we get 15 points, from really tough fixtures,but then get 5 points from the next 7 easier ones? Edit: I don't think we will get 15 points from the first seven games by the way. Just think that although we didn't beat any of the top sides last season we have before plenty of times but what usually goes with that is sloppy defeats to poor sides. Or what if we get 21 points from the first seven games, and none from the next seven? Would be bizarre but very Stoke. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 21:55:00 GMT
It's a bit of a silly "What if" thread IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 21:57:08 GMT
I think he should have already gone tbh, however as he hasn't then I hope he proves me wrong as no matter what manager (idiot) whatever we have in charge I want us to win. The results may well be a side show and the way the team play could be of more importance. They know they have a tough start if they lie down then that will imo spell the end , if they give their all however what more can anyone ask. the managers job is to get the best out of his squad. No where does it state he has to perform miracles against the top sides. So if they show fight and spirit that would be enough to keep you board? Obviously as fans we want everything. If they show fight and spirit it will show Hughes hasn't lost them and there is hope for the season.
I can's see how we expect to be sitting top of the league with 21 points with that start although of course it is what we all hope for. Most fans do have a sense of realism, however I've spoken to a lot who are genuinely concerned this season and would probably take 15th now.
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Post by Glory Hunter on Jul 3, 2017 21:58:49 GMT
We have to play them all twice eventually so may as well get some toughies out of the way early. Mainly it's about being ready to start strong and not be waiting for players or their fitness. We can do this.
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Post by kustokie on Jul 3, 2017 22:06:03 GMT
Predictions anyone? Not my strong point but here goes:
Everton (A) L
Arsenal (H) L
WBA (A) D
Man U (H) D
Newcastle (A) D
Chelsea (H) L
Southampton (A) D
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 3, 2017 22:10:05 GMT
Are you asking, what will be the points tally, in the new season, after 7 games? If so, what relevance does that have to the whole season? Or is this just a thread to show dissent against LMH (OBE)? How can any sensible fan form an opinion on the future of LMH (OBE), after a tough seven game start to the season? Easy. If he loses the first seven games then he needs FUCKING OFF. |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 3, 2017 22:10:28 GMT
Predictions anyone? Not my strong point but here goes: Everton (A) L Arsenal (H) L WBA (A) D Man U (H) D Newcastle (A) D Chelsea (H) L Southampton (A) D That's generous. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 22:16:57 GMT
Are you asking, what will be the points tally, in the new season, after 7 games? If so, what relevance does that have to the whole season? Or is this just a thread to show dissent against LMH (OBE)? How can any sensible fan form an opinion on the future of LMH (OBE), after a tough seven game start to the season? Easy. If he loses the first seven games then he needs FUCKING OFF. You claim to have played football at a decent level, and therefore have a good knowledge of the game. I'm sorry but you have absolutely no knowledge of the game at all. Being able to play the game, doesn't in any way shape or form, mean that a person "knows" the game. Alan Hudson being a very good example. |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 3, 2017 22:19:03 GMT
Easy. If he loses the first seven games then he needs FUCKING OFF. You claim to have played football at a decent level, and therefore have a good knowledge of the game. I'm sorry but you have absolutely no knowledge of the game at all. Being able to play the game, doesn't in any way shape or form, mean that a person "knows" the game. Alan Hudson being a very good example. You're mistaken. If he loses the first 7 games this season and shows that he still can't get the team in shape pre-season then he simply has to go. It's not going to be something new if we start the season poorly AGAIN. If he loses the first 7 games he will be sacked then we can assume Peter Coates doesn't know the fucking game either. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 22:20:07 GMT
You claim to have played football at a decent level, and therefore have a good knowledge of the game. I'm sorry but you have absolutely no knowledge of the game at all. Being able to play the game, doesn't in any way shape or form, mean that a person "knows" the game. Alan Hudson being a very good example. You're mistaken. If he loses the first 7 games this season and shows that he still can't get the team in shape pre-season then he simply has to go. It's not going to be something new if we start the season poorly AGAIN. If he loses the first 7 games he will be sacked then we can assume Peter Coates doesn't know the fucking game either. I am making no mistakes at all. You are the one that is mistaken. |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 3, 2017 22:21:57 GMT
You're mistaken. If he loses the first 7 games this season and shows that he still can't get the team in shape pre-season then he simply has to go. It's not going to be something new if we start the season poorly AGAIN. If he loses the first 7 games he will be sacked then we can assume Peter Coates doesn't know the fucking game either. I am making no mistakes at all. You are the one that is mistaken. So you think it's acceptable to start the season poorly again? In this scenario losing the first 7 games? And I somehow don't know what I'm talking about... If he loses the first 7 games he's off. |
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Post by RichJonesy on Jul 3, 2017 22:25:56 GMT
I don't think the (probably drunk) original poster is asking what we will have after the first 7 games, but asking where are the splits for the points in reflection to Hughes' performances?
So,
0-5 sacked, or 0-3 sacked? Or just 0?
5-10 ok, or 3-12 ok?
And so on....?
For me, I'm pretty much in agreement with the original post, I'd like 21, and honour Hughes with free oatcakes for life if that was the case, but anything less than 5, would be twitchy bum time.
Depends on each performance to. We could get a point from Everton, but be 2-0 down on 80 minutes and bang in 2 late goals. That would feel like a victory to me. Boring 0-0 draws and 'dropping' points from winning positions though and I'd be asking serious questions personally.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 22:45:23 GMT
What about if we win the first 6 games 1-0 but then lose 7-0, sitting in 2nd spot with a -1 goal difference?
Cause to some on here a positive goal difference is more important than points on the board....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 22:51:52 GMT
0 - 5 for me I just can't help a feeling of impending doom this season, it must be catching when you read to much oatcake Crack open a beer Roll a joint Read less Oatcake Drop out Go down the pub Meditate Watch cricket Get a girlfriend/boyfriend/palmfriend |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 23:18:32 GMT
I am making no mistakes at all. You are the one that is mistaken. So you think it's acceptable to start the season poorly again? In this scenario losing the first 7 games? And I somehow don't know what I'm talking about... If he loses the first 7 games he's off. As I have stated you have no real knowledge of this game. You can't even look at the fixture list and put the first seven games into the context of the full season. I'm even wondering if you have, in fact, looked at the fixture list? From your posts, it seems that you haven't. |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 3, 2017 23:27:34 GMT
So you think it's acceptable to start the season poorly again? In this scenario losing the first 7 games? And I somehow don't know what I'm talking about... If he loses the first 7 games he's off. As I have stated you have no real knowledge of this game. You can't even look at the fixture list and put the first seven games into the context of the full season. I'm even wondering if you have, in fact, looked at the fixture list? From your posts, it seems that you haven't. Losing the first 7 games shows we haven't changed at all, there are winnable games there. If it's the same pre-season and the same lackluster start then it's proof that Mark Hughes cannot work with the team he has. Yes the first 7 games don't sum up a full season, but this isn't a new manager and we don't have a "weak" squad. |
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Post by Sfance on Jul 3, 2017 23:35:24 GMT
Hughes has long since proven that he cannot work with the team he has. How much more proof could anyone possibly need?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 23:45:56 GMT
As I have stated you have no real knowledge of this game. You can't even look at the fixture list and put the first seven games into the context of the full season. I'm even wondering if you have, in fact, looked at the fixture list? From your posts, it seems that you haven't. Losing the first 7 games shows we haven't changed at all, there are winnable games there. If it's the same pre-season and the same lackluster start then it's proof that Mark Hughes cannot work with the team he has. Yes the first 7 games don't sum up a full season, but this isn't a new manager and we don't have a "weak" squad.  |
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Post by Gods on Jul 3, 2017 23:47:14 GMT
Predictions anyone? Not my strong point but here goes: Everton (A) L Arsenal (H) L WBA (A) D Man U (H) D Newcastle (A) D Chelsea (H) L Southampton (A) D Shit, as if we needed reminding, that is one brutal start to the season, we will start every one of those games as 2nd favourites |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 3, 2017 23:53:36 GMT
Predictions anyone? Not my strong point but here goes: Everton (A) L Arsenal (H) L WBA (A) D Man U (H) D Newcastle (A) D Chelsea (H) L Southampton (A) D Shit, as if we needed reminding, that is one brutal start to the season, we will start every one of those games as 2nd favourites Not with 3 super duper signings we won't, God's! |
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