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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jun 24, 2017 14:24:28 GMT
The bbc are so pro EU it's ridiculous. People keep claiming it's a Labour site when Corbyn has had a good 18 months of abuse on there. May has had an easy ride until recently but it doesn't seem to support any of the parties. It's fair to say it is the anti british broadcasting corporation, it has a lot of influence and never talks the country up at all. Bollocks, you just see it that way because it doesn't tell you everything's rosey! Buy the Express if you want to feel better! A parliamentary investigation found that its coverage up to the referendum was impartial, why would it change now? You're just seeing it through the prism of how you want things to be, not how they're going. The country's in a fucking mess and its getting worse.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2017 14:51:22 GMT
The bbc are so pro EU it's ridiculous. People keep claiming it's a Labour site when Corbyn has had a good 18 months of abuse on there. May has had an easy ride until recently but it doesn't seem to support any of the parties. It's fair to say it is the anti british broadcasting corporation, it has a lot of influence and never talks the country up at all. Bollocks, you just see it that way because it doesn't tell you everything's rosey! Buy the Express if you want to feel better! A parliamentary investigation found that its coverage up to the referendum was impartial, why would it change now? You're just seeing it through the prism of how you want things to be, not how they're going. The country's in a fucking mess and its getting worse. The country is in a mess because of politicians not brexit. I don't have tunnel vision like many people on here, i won't categorically support any single party or person. The bbc should be supporting britain but are not, we voted leave and they have a duty to talk this country up. It is a negative site led by remainers it's about time someone told them to get in line. Constantly painting a grim outlook will make negotiations harder for us as it keeps the divisions there, being more positive and upbeat will unite the country, but why would people want that? It's not about proving which side was wrong, and which was right, it's about accepting the decision and everyone getting behind it. It's happening weather you like it or not, but it can't work if there is constant friction between brexiters and remainers. At the moment it's not being allowed to work, all the negativity also has an affect on the pound.
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 24, 2017 15:13:51 GMT
Bollocks, you just see it that way because it doesn't tell you everything's rosey! Buy the Express if you want to feel better! A parliamentary investigation found that its coverage up to the referendum was impartial, why would it change now? You're just seeing it through the prism of how you want things to be, not how they're going. The country's in a fucking mess and its getting worse. The country is in a mess because of politicians not brexit. I don't have tunnel vision like many people on here, i won't categorically support any single party or person. The bbc should be supporting britain but are not, we voted leave and they have a duty to talk this country up. It is a negative site led by remainers it's about time someone told them to get in line. Constantly painting a grim outlook will make negotiations harder for us as it keeps the divisions there, being more positive and upbeat will unite the country, but why would people want that? It's not about proving which side was wrong, and which was right, it's about accepting the decision and everyone getting behind it. It's happening weather you like it or not, but it can't work if there is constant friction between brexiters and remainers. At the moment it's not being allowed to work, all the negativity also has an affect on the pound. Markets affect the £, Not the BBC. The world watched us vote out of the EU & the world media thought we'd gone mad. Does that make nations that have no vested interest in the EU biased against us or leftist. No, the reason we're coming out of the EU is because of a vanity project by Cameron. I would love Brexit to be good for us, but that's not what the evidence suggests. Sticking your fingers in your ears & going LaLaLa won't make it any different 🙉
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Post by Mendicant on Jun 24, 2017 15:37:10 GMT
Sir Alex was right a few years ago when he gave journalitsts a collective bollocking at his press conference: "your job is to tell the truth".
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Post by felonious on Jun 24, 2017 16:20:30 GMT
"Sunday meeting of the flat earth society" The silly sausage, Everyone knows the flat earthers meet on a Monday after Jeremy Kyle. & stop b!%dy cutting & pasting, it's banned. By far the most popular and widely read newspapers at the BBC are The Guardian and The Independent. Producers refer to them routinely for the line to take on running stories, and for inspiration on which items to cover. In the later stages of my career, I lost count of the number of times I asked a producer for a brief on a story, only to be handed a copy of The Guardian and told ‘it’s all in there’.
– Peter Sissons, Former BBC News and Current Affairs presenter
Says it all really.......Research from the Grauniad aided by lefty academic experts funded by the EU
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Post by Northy on Jun 24, 2017 20:34:22 GMT
I would have put this on the strange women you fancy thread thats what I thought it was going to be
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Post by 4372 on Jun 24, 2017 21:05:36 GMT
They really must be getting desperate if this is the best she can come up with. The problem is not the BBC. You could just as easily argue that the problem is The Daily Mail/The Sun, etc. The problem is still the Referendum result. And the argument was not resolved by the recent Election. I seem to remember Nigel saying that a 52/48% split in the Referendum result would be likely to see the argument continue.
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 24, 2017 21:10:52 GMT
"Sunday meeting of the flat earth society" The silly sausage, Everyone knows the flat earthers meet on a Monday after Jeremy Kyle. & stop b!%dy cutting & pasting, it's banned. By far the most popular and widely read newspapers at the BBC are The Guardian and The Independent. Producers refer to them routinely for the line to take on running stories, and for inspiration on which items to cover. In the later stages of my career, I lost count of the number of times I asked a producer for a brief on a story, only to be handed a copy of The Guardian and told ‘it’s all in there’.
– Peter Sissons, Former BBC News and Current Affairs presenter
Says it all really.......Research from the Grauniad aided by lefty academic experts funded by the EU
Stop £@#&!n quoting. It's hear-say
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 24, 2017 21:14:22 GMT
I would have put this on the strange women you fancy thread thats what I thought it was going to be Don't tell Billy's Big B%!!%#&$, cause he's dead protective of his unusual birds
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 24, 2017 21:17:47 GMT
They really must be getting desperate if this is the best she can come up with. The problem is not the BBC. You could just as easily argue that the problem is The Daily Mail/The Sun, etc. The problem is still the Referendum result. And the argument was not resolved by the recent Election. I seem to remember Nigel saying that a 52/48% split in the Referendum result would be likely to see the argument continue. Wars have been won with lesser margins.
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Post by Billybigbollox on Jun 24, 2017 21:27:25 GMT
thats what I thought it was going to be Don't tell Billy's Big B%!!%#&$, cause he's dead protective of his unusual birds Are you saying you wouldn't muff that then Bath?
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Post by cooper67 on Jun 24, 2017 23:19:12 GMT
Don't tell Billy's Big B%!!%#&$, cause he's dead protective of his unusual birds Are you saying you wouldn't muff that then Bath? I'd give her one.
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Post by Billybigbollox on Jun 24, 2017 23:41:08 GMT
Are you saying you wouldn't muff that then Bath? I'd give her one. Now that you are no longer contagious I expect she'd be grateful Craig.
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Post by cooper67 on Jun 25, 2017 2:30:33 GMT
She would have been when I was !!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 5:14:25 GMT
The problem is not the BBC. You could just as easily argue that the problem is The Daily Mail/The Sun, etc. This is a terrible point as those other media-outlets have no responsibility of impartiality. Whilst you can't realistically expect there to be absolutely no bias or expression of personal opinion from those that work at the BBC, it's fundamental for that to be their aspiration. I haven't watched the clip and even as a hard-brexiteer I'm no great fan of Andrea Leadsom. Her comments about Theresa May's childlessness were cruel and crass. However, from what I've seen in the past it's blindingly clear that Emily Mathis has absolutely no aspirations to respect her duties of impartiality. It would seem her aims are close to being the opposite. Anyone who tries to argue that the outrageous culture of political bias that has developed at that organisation is merely a figment of right-wing imaginations is most likely suffering from the same perception issues as those perpetuating the bias. I'm pretty hard-line on the matter. Whilst having a national broadcaster can be critical and a great thing, and indeed provides many amazing positives to our society, it's tragic and painfully clear that The BBC has become so corrupted by bias that it has essentially been hijacked as a tool for political-propaganda. It is rotten to the core and beyond reform. It needs to be destroyed and re-created. Sadly the majority don't view this as a national scandal/tragedy like me, the only thing I can do is guarantee they won't be getting another penny of my money.
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Post by felonious on Jun 25, 2017 5:55:25 GMT
By far the most popular and widely read newspapers at the BBC are The Guardian and The Independent. Producers refer to them routinely for the line to take on running stories, and for inspiration on which items to cover. In the later stages of my career, I lost count of the number of times I asked a producer for a brief on a story, only to be handed a copy of The Guardian and told ‘it’s all in there’.
– Peter Sissons, Former BBC News and Current Affairs presenter
Says it all really.......Research from the Grauniad aided by lefty academic experts funded by the EU
Stop £@#&!n quoting. It's hear-say Do one you BBC loving Blairite.
“I do remember… the corridors of Broadcasting House were strewn with empty champagne bottles. I’ll always remember that”
– Jane Garvey, Radio 4 presenter, recalling Tony Blair’s election victory in 1997
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 25, 2017 7:23:00 GMT
The problem is not the BBC. You could just as easily argue that the problem is The Daily Mail/The Sun, etc. This is a terrible point as those other media-outlets have no responsibility of impartiality. Whilst you can't realistically expect there to be absolutely no bias or expression of personal opinion from those that work at the BBC, it's fundamental for that to be their aspiration. I haven't watched the clip and even as a hard-brexiteer I'm no great fan of Andrea Leadsom. Her comments about Theresa May's childlessness were cruel and crass. I'm not so sure now. I know that being a father has broadened me as a person(both metaphorically & literally!) Even Cameron became a better person, according to those that know him, after he had Ben. It taught him empathy, compassion & humanity. All those characteristics that seem to be lacking in Theresa
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 25, 2017 8:29:14 GMT
The country is in a mess because of politicians not brexit. I don't have tunnel vision like many people on here, i won't categorically support any single party or person. The bbc should be supporting britain but are not, we voted leave and they have a duty to talk this country up. It is a negative site led by remainers it's about time someone told them to get in line. Constantly painting a grim outlook will make negotiations harder for us as it keeps the divisions there, being more positive and upbeat will unite the country, but why would people want that? It's not about proving which side was wrong, and which was right, it's about accepting the decision and everyone getting behind it. It's happening weather you like it or not, but it can't work if there is constant friction between brexiters and remainers. At the moment it's not being allowed to work, all the negativity also has an affect on the pound. When reality starts to bite and things get worse, and they will, don't look for scapegoats other than those who still think Brexit is a good idea. A lot of people will start changing their minds soon. But will it all be too late...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 10:49:32 GMT
This is a terrible point as those other media-outlets have no responsibility of impartiality. Whilst you can't realistically expect there to be absolutely no bias or expression of personal opinion from those that work at the BBC, it's fundamental for that to be their aspiration. I haven't watched the clip and even as a hard-brexiteer I'm no great fan of Andrea Leadsom. Her comments about Theresa May's childlessness were cruel and crass. I'm not so sure now. I know that being a father has broadened me as a person(both metaphorically & literally!) Even Cameron became a better person, according to those that know him, after he had Ben. It taught him empathy, compassion & humanity. All those characteristics that seem to be lacking in Theresa That may be so bath, in fact it wouldn't surprise me if some huge physiological changes take place in the brain after becoming a parent. It doesn't change the fact that it was a terrible thing for Leadsom to say. For all we know, the reason they never had children might not have been their choice at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 10:58:06 GMT
The country is in a mess because of politicians not brexit. I don't have tunnel vision like many people on here, i won't categorically support any single party or person. The bbc should be supporting britain but are not, we voted leave and they have a duty to talk this country up. It is a negative site led by remainers it's about time someone told them to get in line. Constantly painting a grim outlook will make negotiations harder for us as it keeps the divisions there, being more positive and upbeat will unite the country, but why would people want that? It's not about proving which side was wrong, and which was right, it's about accepting the decision and everyone getting behind it. It's happening weather you like it or not, but it can't work if there is constant friction between brexiters and remainers. At the moment it's not being allowed to work, all the negativity also has an affect on the pound. Markets affect the £, Not the BBC. The world watched us vote out of the EU & the world media thought we'd gone mad. Does that make nations that have no vested interest in the EU biased against us or leftist. No, the reason we're coming out of the EU is because of a vanity project by Cameron. I would love Brexit to be good for us, but that's not what the evidence suggests. Sticking your fingers in your ears & going LaLaLa won't make it any different 🙉 Markets rely on confidence, negativity reduces confidence.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 10:59:46 GMT
Yes it appears a male brain does in fact take on characteristics of a female brain after fatherhood. This means an increases in activity in networks associated with emotional processing and social understanding. There's also an increase in feminine hormones and a reported decrease in testosterone, believed to make men less aggressive and bring them closer to their child. Oxytocin increases too which is informally known as the cuddle hormone. Well no wonder you're a left-wing twat bath, most women tend to be.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 11:11:23 GMT
The country is in a mess because of politicians not brexit. I don't have tunnel vision like many people on here, i won't categorically support any single party or person. The bbc should be supporting britain but are not, we voted leave and they have a duty to talk this country up. It is a negative site led by remainers it's about time someone told them to get in line. Constantly painting a grim outlook will make negotiations harder for us as it keeps the divisions there, being more positive and upbeat will unite the country, but why would people want that? It's not about proving which side was wrong, and which was right, it's about accepting the decision and everyone getting behind it. It's happening weather you like it or not, but it can't work if there is constant friction between brexiters and remainers. At the moment it's not being allowed to work, all the negativity also has an affect on the pound. Absolute nonsense on so many fronts! Politicians, specifically the Conservative party, caused this mess you're right. They called the referendum and split the country. They called the ge and produced a piss weak government in bed with terrorist sympathisers. Why does the BBC have a duty to talk this country up? Be like Pravda you mean? Just report stuff that paints the country in a good light constantly. Are you nuts? It has a duty as a news organisation to report things independently as they are, and by and large it does. Brexit is a mess. There is no Brexit plan. There is no idea what will happen post Brexit to business, fishing, agriculture, health, the economy, travel, finance, medicines, sport the list is almost endless. The pounds status is a result of this uncertainty not people moaning about Brexit ffs! That fact is nothing to do with the BBC or remainers pointing out that fact! You are, like I said, accusing others of being the cause of the problem simply because they are not looking through your prism. Seriously, if you want to believe everything is great buy the Express. Every other headline tells you how great the UK is doing and how evil the EU is, but hopefully you'll choose a paper for grownups instead! When reality starts to bite and things get worse, and they will, don't look for scapegoats other than those who still think Brexit is a good idea. A lot of people will start changing their minds soon. It is the British Broadcasting Corporation not the EU Broadcasting Corporation, every positive story about brexit ends in a but. This might happen or this might happen is not providing facts, it's biased, it's very much news pushed by remainers. I know where i stand you could change your mind tomorrow.
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Post by felonious on Jun 25, 2017 12:15:46 GMT
Absolute nonsense on so many fronts! Politicians, specifically the Conservative party, caused this mess you're right. They called the referendum and split the country. They called the ge and produced a piss weak government in bed with terrorist sympathisers. Why does the BBC have a duty to talk this country up? Be like Pravda you mean? Just report stuff that paints the country in a good light constantly. Are you nuts? It has a duty as a news organisation to report things independently as they are, and by and large it does. Brexit is a mess. There is no Brexit plan. There is no idea what will happen post Brexit to business, fishing, agriculture, health, the economy, travel, finance, medicines, sport the list is almost endless. The pounds status is a result of this uncertainty not people moaning about Brexit ffs! That fact is nothing to do with the BBC or remainers pointing out that fact! You are, like I said, accusing others of being the cause of the problem simply because they are not looking through your prism. Seriously, if you want to believe everything is great buy the Express. Every other headline tells you how great the UK is doing and how evil the EU is, but hopefully you'll choose a paper for grownups instead! When reality starts to bite and things get worse, and they will, don't look for scapegoats other than those who still think Brexit is a good idea. A lot of people will start changing their minds soon. It is the British Broadcasting Corporation not the EU Broadcasting Corporation, every positive story about brexit ends in a but. This might happen or this might happen is not providing facts, it's biased, it's very much news pushed by remainers. I know where i stand you could change your mind tomorrow. It would be interesting to find out if there are any BBC employees who did not vote to remain.
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Post by felonious on Jun 25, 2017 12:19:40 GMT
The country is in a mess because of politicians not brexit. I don't have tunnel vision like many people on here, i won't categorically support any single party or person. The bbc should be supporting britain but are not, we voted leave and they have a duty to talk this country up. It is a negative site led by remainers it's about time someone told them to get in line. Constantly painting a grim outlook will make negotiations harder for us as it keeps the divisions there, being more positive and upbeat will unite the country, but why would people want that? It's not about proving which side was wrong, and which was right, it's about accepting the decision and everyone getting behind it. It's happening weather you like it or not, but it can't work if there is constant friction between brexiters and remainers. At the moment it's not being allowed to work, all the negativity also has an affect on the pound. Absolute nonsense on so many fronts! Politicians, specifically the Conservative party, caused this mess you're right. They called the referendum and split the country. They called the ge and produced a piss weak government in bed with terrorist sympathisers. Why does the BBC have a duty to talk this country up? Be like Pravda you mean? Just report stuff that paints the country in a good light constantly. Are you nuts? It has a duty as a news organisation to report things independently as they are, and by and large it does. Brexit is a mess. There is no Brexit plan. There is no idea what will happen post Brexit to business, fishing, agriculture, health, the economy, travel, finance, medicines, sport the list is almost endless. The pounds status is a result of this uncertainty not people moaning about Brexit ffs! That fact is nothing to do with the BBC or remainers pointing out that fact! You are, like I said, accusing others of being the cause of the problem simply because they are not looking through your prism. Seriously, if you want to believe everything is great buy the Express. Every other headline tells you how great the UK is doing and how evil the EU is, but hopefully you'll choose a paper for grownups instead! When reality starts to bite and things get worse, and they will, don't look for scapegoats other than those who still think Brexit is a good idea. A lot of people will start changing their minds soon. The country has been split on the issue for many years to the point where both the main parties were leaking votes to UKIP. Look at the last EU election results if you need to be reminded. The only difference now is that the remainers are complaining about the results of a promised referendum which is up to 30 years overdue.
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Post by felonious on Jun 25, 2017 12:26:57 GMT
This is a terrible point as those other media-outlets have no responsibility of impartiality. Whilst you can't realistically expect there to be absolutely no bias or expression of personal opinion from those that work at the BBC, it's fundamental for that to be their aspiration. I haven't watched the clip and even as a hard-brexiteer I'm no great fan of Andrea Leadsom. Her comments about Theresa May's childlessness were cruel and crass. I'm not so sure now. I know that being a father has broadened me as a person(both metaphorically & literally!) Even Cameron became a better person, according to those that know him, after he had Ben. It taught him empathy, compassion & humanity. All those characteristics that seem to be lacking in Theresa Sounds like absolute bollocks. You can't have empathy now unless you've produced brats. I suspect Theresa May wanted children but unfortunately could not have them. Your comments reminded of my childless aunt who was as maternal if not even more so than the rest of my aunts with children and my mother. When she succumbed to dementia an orderly queue of grateful nieces and nephews came forward to make sure that she was cared for. What a shame that your blind hatred of the Conservative party feeds your views on Theresa May. Ms Leadsom was dealt with for her crass remarks.
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 25, 2017 12:49:01 GMT
I'm not so sure now. I know that being a father has broadened me as a person(both metaphorically & literally!) Even Cameron became a better person, according to those that know him, after he had Ben. It taught him empathy, compassion & humanity. All those characteristics that seem to be lacking in Theresa Sounds like absolute bollocks. You can't have empathy now unless you've produced brats. I suspect Theresa May wanted children but unfortunately could not have them. Your comments reminded of my childless aunt who was as maternal if not even more so than the rest of my aunts with children and my mother. When she succumbed to dementia an orderly queue of grateful nieces and nephews came forward to make sure that she was cared for. What a shame that your blind hatred of the Conservative party feeds your views on Theresa May. Ms Leadsom was dealt with for her crass remarks. With all due respect Felonious, Theresa May is not your loving Aunt. Whether it was Theresa's choice or not to have children is neither here nor there, you only have to consider the finished product. It's a shame that you are allowing your blinkered view of the Torys to stop you seeing her for what she is. Now stop virtue signallingXx
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jun 25, 2017 14:03:29 GMT
Absolute nonsense on so many fronts! Politicians, specifically the Conservative party, caused this mess you're right. They called the referendum and split the country. They called the ge and produced a piss weak government in bed with terrorist sympathisers. Why does the BBC have a duty to talk this country up? Be like Pravda you mean? Just report stuff that paints the country in a good light constantly. Are you nuts? It has a duty as a news organisation to report things independently as they are, and by and large it does. Brexit is a mess. There is no Brexit plan. There is no idea what will happen post Brexit to business, fishing, agriculture, health, the economy, travel, finance, medicines, sport the list is almost endless. The pounds status is a result of this uncertainty not people moaning about Brexit ffs! That fact is nothing to do with the BBC or remainers pointing out that fact! You are, like I said, accusing others of being the cause of the problem simply because they are not looking through your prism. Seriously, if you want to believe everything is great buy the Express. Every other headline tells you how great the UK is doing and how evil the EU is, but hopefully you'll choose a paper for grownups instead! When reality starts to bite and things get worse, and they will, don't look for scapegoats other than those who still think Brexit is a good idea. A lot of people will start changing their minds soon. It is the British Broadcasting Corporation not the EU Broadcasting Corporation, every positive story about brexit ends in a but. This might happen or this might happen is not providing facts, it's biased, it's very much news pushed by remainers. I know where i stand you could change your mind tomorrow. Nah, you just see it through biased eyes, but you obviously can't see that, because you're biased! Like I said, the parliamentary investigation found it to be impartial. In fact if anything it leant towards brexit because 80% of the experts in various fields leant towards Remain but the BBC balance was closer to 50/50, so it didn't really portray expert opinion anywhere near where it might reasonably have done. Perhaps it has taken that on board now and is portraying expert opinion more accurately in its reporting? But as Michael Gove said the country's had enough of experts lol. I hope he takes the same approach next time he needs an operation lol
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jun 25, 2017 14:14:30 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-40386788/brexit-tory-mp-leadsom-says-broadcasters-should-be-patriotic
Just had a listen to her actual words having heard a brief outline earlier this morning on the radio. She's got a fair point. The BBC are not exactly covering themselves in glory over the Brexit reporting. Had an interesting conversation with a few mates this morning, Labour voters, and the consensus is that the BBC reporting is biased. The general election conspired to give the two main parties 85% of the vote share with both being in favour of Brexit however the reporting feels hostile. I've had to drill down into the politics section of the BBC to find this article. You and a few mates that's a representative sample. It's not clear that 85% of the vote as for parties favouring Brexit. First the PM asked for a mandate and received under 45% of the vote, more importantly Labour's manifesto is vague and is clear about wanting to put jobs and workers' rights first - that is inconsistent with anything other than a fudged Brexit. If we leave the Single Market, and Customs Union it is almost certain we will lose jobs and react by trying to cut workers' rights in a race to the bottom. 64% of people told YouGov they would not accept a reduction on immigration if it made them personally worse off, given that it would mean we leave the Single Market and would make them worse off, it is impossible to be as definitive as you are re. The BBC, which contributed to the Leave vote by giving far too much airtime to pro-leave economists in proportion to the view of the profession and has had Farage on Question Time 28 time since despite him failing 7 times to be elected to Parliament, is totally right to probe the inherent contradictions in current Government policy. That is what patriotism looks like in open, democracies
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jun 25, 2017 14:30:10 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-40386788/brexit-tory-mp-leadsom-says-broadcasters-should-be-patriotic
Just had a listen to her actual words having heard a brief outline earlier this morning on the radio. She's got a fair point. The BBC are not exactly covering themselves in glory over the Brexit reporting. Had an interesting conversation with a few mates this morning, Labour voters, and the consensus is that the BBC reporting is biased. The general election conspired to give the two main parties 85% of the vote share with both being in favour of Brexit however the reporting feels hostile. I've had to drill down into the politics section of the BBC to find this article. You and a few mates that's a representative sample. It's not clear that 85% of the vote as for parties favouring Brexit. First the PM asked for a mandate and received under 45% of the vote, more importantly Labour's manifesto is vague and is clear about wanting to put jobs and workers' rights first - that is inconsistent with anything other than a fudged Brexit. If we leave the Single Market, and Customs Union it is almost certain we will lose jobs and react by trying to cut workers' rights in a race to the bottom. 64% of people told YouGov they would not accept a reduction on immigration if it made them personally worse off, given that it would mean we leave the Single Market and would make them worse off, it is impossible to be as definitive as you are re. The BBC, which contributed to the Leave vote by giving far too much airtime to pro-leave economists in proportion to the view of the profession and has had Farage on Question Time 28 time since despite him failing 7 times to be elected to Parliament, is totally right to probe the inherent contradictions in current Government policy. That is what patriotism looks like in open, democracies Ah, but news organisations should only be talking the country up, not reporting anything which might be construed as negative or critical. We could in fact just get rid of any dissenting voices and have one mouthpiece which we could call The Daily Express or perhaps The Truth, or, I know, Pravda, that has a much better ring to it. An approach which looks increasingly likely in the States at present, where certain news outlets are actually barred from reporting at the White House because they dare not to parrot the President's carefully constructed bullshit!
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jun 25, 2017 14:36:05 GMT
Despite the fact that it's raining outside, I think it's the BBC's duty to tell me it's sunny with record high temperatures.
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