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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 13:37:37 GMT
Some are saying hart should get a chance of being captain of England.
I think it should be an out field player
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Post by medwaypotter on Jun 10, 2017 13:42:04 GMT
Yes, but deffo no.
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Post by RichJonesy on Jun 10, 2017 13:44:03 GMT
Hasn't Buffon been a captain?
He certainly has on Champ man 01/02 for me but the line between reality and gaming is blurry for me now.
Hart isn't good enough to be captain anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 13:45:15 GMT
Hart will be number 2 soon anyway
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 10, 2017 14:05:22 GMT
Shilton captained England a few times didn't he. In general, especially in competitive matches, I don't think it is a good idea. Often the captain is required to put his team's argument to the referee and, for a keeper, n that could be to an incident nearly 100 yards away - not a good idea at all.
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Post by lagwafis on Jun 10, 2017 14:08:46 GMT
Shilton won 15 caps as England captain. Schmeichel captained Man United when they won the Champions League. Seaman captained Arsenal in an FA Cup final.
For me the armband is more symbolic than anything. Any great team has leaders talking all over the pitch (look at Banks, Smith, Pejic, Ritchie etc. in the 70s, or Overson, Cranson, Gleghorn, Beeston under Macari).
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Post by baystokie on Jun 10, 2017 14:18:03 GMT
Shilton captained England a few times didn't he. In general, especially in competitive matches, I don't think it is a good idea. Often the captain is required to put his team's argument to the referee and, for a keeper, n that could be to an incident nearly 100 yards away - not a good idea at all. Personally, not in favour of players, even captains, putting their team's ARGUMENT to the referee. The less arguing the better, man up and accept the decision - they are rarely changed no matter the protest. As to keepers being captain - his main problem is his inability to get about the pitch and speak to appropriate players about the tactical/positional changes he deems necessary |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jun 10, 2017 14:20:28 GMT
Can a keeper be captain....
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Post by duckling on Jun 10, 2017 14:29:18 GMT
Lloris is captain for both club and country.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 14:36:59 GMT
What a stupid question.
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Post by cooper67 on Jun 10, 2017 14:39:38 GMT
I'm not sure how much MM knows about football?? He is either 10 years of age or 50 with the IQ of a 10 year old. This is stuff I knew when I was 10. |
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Post by nutterpotter on Jun 10, 2017 14:43:50 GMT
That's morningmist for you |
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Post by jonnynico on Jun 10, 2017 14:46:31 GMT
Banks didn't do a bad job being captain for stoke.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jun 10, 2017 14:59:40 GMT
This is Misty.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 15:11:47 GMT
I know alot about football more than you would believe..Ive spent my life around professional footballers......the oatcake is full of thread bullies covering as if they know something
Professionals dont like keepers as captains
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jun 10, 2017 15:16:13 GMT
If you spent your life around professionals then how the fuck did you never figure out if a goalkeeper could be a captain?
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jun 10, 2017 15:16:44 GMT
Some of the best captains of all time have been keepers.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 10, 2017 15:20:36 GMT
Yes.
Jack Butland can and will be England captain.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 10, 2017 15:24:36 GMT
Shilton captained England a few times didn't he. In general, especially in competitive matches, I don't think it is a good idea. Often the captain is required to put his team's argument to the referee and, for a keeper, n that could be to an incident nearly 100 yards away - not a good idea at all. Personally, not in favour of players, even captains, putting their team's ARGUMENT to the referee. The less arguing the better, man up and accept the decision - they are rarely changed no matter the protest. As to keepers being captain - his main problem is his inability to get about the pitch and speak to appropriate players about the tactical/positional changes he deems necessary I was using the word argument in the alternative definition which is "a reason or set of reasons given in support of an idea". Whatever you think of Captains "arguing" with referees the fact is that they do have dispensation under Premier League rules to put their own team's or a team mate's case to the referee in the case of disputed decisions. Shawcross is quite good at this and doesn't lose his rag but put's the case to the ref in a calm manner. In fact you will often see a referee wave all players away from an incident other than the player(s) directly involved and the team captains. It is this sort of incident I was referring to. Such incidents could happen 100 yards away from the keeper so to expect him to run 100 yards up the pitch to have a discussion with the referee is madness in my opinion. Fine for a keeper to be captain in a friendly to mark his 100th cap or last game but not in a regular match as he is limited in his ability to do the job properly. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 15:33:44 GMT
If you spent your life around professionals then how the fuck did you never figure out if a goalkeeper could be a captain? Of course they CAN be a captain you knobhead....but that doesnt mean its good |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 15:38:04 GMT
If you spent your life around professionals then how the fuck did you never figure out if a goalkeeper could be a captain? Of course they CAN be a captain you knobhead....but that doesnt mean its good Stop being a thread bully. |
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Post by nutterpotter on Jun 10, 2017 15:40:34 GMT
If you spent your life around professionals then how the fuck did you never figure out if a goalkeeper could be a captain? Of course they CAN be a captain you knobhead....but that doesnt mean its good So why the 'Can a keeper be captain?' thread title then? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 15:46:17 GMT
There are some sad people on here who need to grow up
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 15:49:37 GMT
Shilton captained England a few times didn't he. In general, especially in competitive matches, I don't think it is a good idea. Often the captain is required to put his team's argument to the referee and, for a keeper, n that could be to an incident nearly 100 yards away - not a good idea at all. Personally, not in favour of players, even captains, putting their team's ARGUMENT to the referee. The less arguing the better, man up and accept the decision - they are rarely changed no matter the protest. As to keepers being captain - his main problem is his inability to get about the pitch and speak to appropriate players about the tactical/positional changes he deems necessary Yes. . not a good thing (maybe not in all cases) |
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Post by Cast no shadow on Jun 10, 2017 15:52:46 GMT
Centre half for me. Makes most sense
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Post by nutterpotter on Jun 10, 2017 15:53:14 GMT
There are some sad people on here who need to grow up Why? Your thread title IS a stupid question. If you meant to ask whether a keeper can make a good captain, then that's a fair question and you should probably change the thread title. |
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Post by cooper67 on Jun 10, 2017 16:00:57 GMT
There are some sad people on here who need to grow up So you start a thread-that everyone now questions. And we are bullying you?? Perhaps you should have laid the facts down at the start-rather than let us guess them on the way. |
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Post by malteser68 on Jun 10, 2017 16:44:04 GMT
Dino Zoff captained Italy to the 1982 World Cup victory
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jun 10, 2017 16:45:11 GMT
Centre half for me. Makes most sense With the added bonus ref's are more lenient when it comes to booking captains*! *The obvious exception being our captain!  |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jun 10, 2017 16:53:06 GMT
If you spent your life around professionals then how the fuck did you never figure out if a goalkeeper could be a captain? Of course they CAN be a captain you knobhead....but that doesnt mean its good So what you're really asking is "Is it good for keepers to be captains?" Or are you stating that it isn't good therefor no need for a thread? |
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