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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jul 1, 2019 12:22:50 GMT
If you see such a job , please let me know. ( P S...can I put you down as a referee, as someone experienced in the area?) Believe in Brexit. Its in the Bible LOL You asked me a question about the Bible.... obviously I recognise that it is part of diversion but I don't mind a small interlude to keep you amused and get you through your day. Lol, lol ( first time I've ever lolled!)
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Post by thevoid on Jul 1, 2019 12:58:19 GMT
So now I see that no deal would mean we would have to bail out the fishing industry- the very industry career people like Farage use to push their fuckwittery. Again in English please?
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Post by thevoid on Jul 1, 2019 13:03:02 GMT
What do you expect? " Why ask?" Trigger. You reap what you sow Galatians 6:7: Really desperate stuff. You should consider a career in barrel-scraping. Are you recruiting?
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Post by felonious on Jul 1, 2019 16:54:12 GMT
Am i right in my understanding that the EU won't admit countries who have the death penalty?
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Jul 1, 2019 18:22:51 GMT
So now I see that no deal would mean we would have to bail out the fishing industry- the very industry career people like Farage use to push their fuckwittery. Can you explain what you mean Fog Those happy to go down the WTO route often say how the fishing industry will prosper outside the EU, but WTO means (according to Hunt) that the fishing industry will need a taxpayer bailout . If the fishing industry really is set to thrive outside the EU it should hardly need a bailout.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jul 1, 2019 19:32:49 GMT
Can you explain what you mean Fog Those happy to go down the WTO route often say how the fishing industry will prosper outside the EU, but WTO means (according to Hunt) that the fishing industry will need a taxpayer bailout . If the fishing industry really is set to thrive outside the EU it should hardly need a bailout. i can only find the reference below. Hardly a bail-out. You don't really expect us to leave the domination of and entanglement in the EU empire and there not be some financial changes in the short and long term? I think that you are " barrel scraping" to quote your "close" colleague....looking for non existent problems and then maximising them. The EU of course have been tsking OUR money and subsidising the French farmers and Dutch fishermen for years through the CAP. and CFP. ..... where dome if our farmers have got used to subsidies on the back of this ( some arguably immorally so such as Heseltine's £90.000 per year for doing nothing)....seems sensible to replace the EU( OUR) grants in thr short term with OUR( OUR) grants until we evolve our own better structure..... doesn't it? ....thst would give certainty in the short term. .......... The Foreign Secretary will add: "If you're a sheep farmer in Shropshire or a fisherman in Peterhead I have a simple message for you - I know you face uncertainty if we have to leave the EU without a deal. "I will mitigate the impact of no-deal Brexit on you and step in to help smooth those short-term difficulties. "If we could do it for the bankers in the financial crisis, we can do it for our fishermen, farmers and small businesses now." www.holyrood.com/articles/news/jeremy-hunt-pledges-%C2%A36bn-farming-and-fishing-industries-cope-no-deal-brexit,.............. This makes interesting reading from a remainer: The one good thing about Brexit? Leaving the EU’s disgraceful farming system www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/10/brexit-leaving-eu-farming-agriculture..........
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jul 1, 2019 19:44:04 GMT
Paid for by our basic wage tax payer.....and the French get a bit ( a lot actually). A bit of scrutiny needed here don't you think? ( Go see your MEP.... problem is they can do nowt about it) From the link below..... Dozens of MPs and peers, including some with vast inherited wealth, own or manage farms that collectively have received millions of pounds in European Union subsidies. An analysis by the Guardian and the environmental group Friends of the Earth identified 48 parliamentarians who claimed £5.7m in farming subsidies under the EU’s common agricultural policy (CAP) in 2017, the latest year for which figures are available. The largest single payment – £473,000 – was paid to a Sussex farming firm run by the 18th Duke of Norfolk, a large landowner whose estate dates from the middle ages. Conservative MP Richard Drax, descendant of a 19th-century slave-owner and current resident of the family ancestral seat of Charborough House in Dorset, owns a farm that received £411,000. www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jan/27/revealed-the-mps-and-peers-receiving-millions-in-eu-farm-subsidies-cap
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jul 1, 2019 19:46:48 GMT
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 1, 2019 20:17:04 GMT
Paid for by our basic wage tax payer.....and the French get a bit ( a lot actually). A bit of scrutiny needed here don't you think? ( Go see your MEP.... problem is they can do nowt about it) From the link below..... Dozens of MPs and peers, including some with vast inherited wealth, own or manage farms that collectively have received millions of pounds in European Union subsidies. An analysis by the Guardian and the environmental group Friends of the Earth identified 48 parliamentarians who claimed £5.7m in farming subsidies under the EU’s common agricultural policy (CAP) in 2017, the latest year for which figures are available. The largest single payment – £473,000 – was paid to a Sussex farming firm run by the 18th Duke of Norfolk, a large landowner whose estate dates from the middle ages. Conservative MP Richard Drax, descendant of a 19th-century slave-owner and current resident of the family ancestral seat of Charborough House in Dorset, owns a farm that received £411,000. www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jan/27/revealed-the-mps-and-peers-receiving-millions-in-eu-farm-subsidies-cap
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 1, 2019 20:19:55 GMT
Paid for by our basic wage tax payer.....and the French get a bit ( a lot actually). A bit of scrutiny needed here don't you think? ( Go see your MEP.... problem is they can do nowt about it) From the link below..... Dozens of MPs and peers, including some with vast inherited wealth, own or manage farms that collectively have received millions of pounds in European Union subsidies. An analysis by the Guardian and the environmental group Friends of the Earth identified 48 parliamentarians who claimed £5.7m in farming subsidies under the EU’s common agricultural policy (CAP) in 2017, the latest year for which figures are available. The largest single payment – £473,000 – was paid to a Sussex farming firm run by the 18th Duke of Norfolk, a large landowner whose estate dates from the middle ages. Conservative MP Richard Drax, descendant of a 19th-century slave-owner and current resident of the family ancestral seat of Charborough House in Dorset, owns a farm that received £411,000. www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jan/27/revealed-the-mps-and-peers-receiving-millions-in-eu-farm-subsidies-capSlight conflict of interest, for some?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 20:26:11 GMT
Slight conflict of interest, for some? It stinks doesn't it !
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Jul 1, 2019 20:38:13 GMT
Those happy to go down the WTO route often say how the fishing industry will prosper outside the EU, but WTO means (according to Hunt) that the fishing industry will need a taxpayer bailout . If the fishing industry really is set to thrive outside the EU it should hardly need a bailout. i can only find the reference below. Hardly a bail-out. You don't really expect us to leave the domination of and entanglement in the EU empire and there not be some financial changes in the short and long term? I think that you are " barrel scraping" to quote your "close" colleague....looking for non existent problems and then maximising them. The EU of course have been tsking OUR money and subsidising the French farmers and Dutch fishermen for years through the CAP. and CFP. ..... where dome if our farmers have got used to subsidies on the back of this ( some arguably immorally so such as Heseltine's £90.000 per year for doing nothing)....seems sensible to replace the EU( OUR) grants in thr short term with OUR( OUR) grants until we evolve our own better structure..... doesn't it? ....thst would give certainty in the short term. .......... The Foreign Secretary will add: "If you're a sheep farmer in Shropshire or a fisherman in Peterhead I have a simple message for you - I know you face uncertainty if we have to leave the EU without a deal. "I will mitigate the impact of no-deal Brexit on you and step in to help smooth those short-term difficulties. "If we could do it for the bankers in the financial crisis, we can do it for our fishermen, farmers and small businesses now." www.holyrood.com/articles/news/jeremy-hunt-pledges-%C2%A36bn-farming-and-fishing-industries-cope-no-deal-brexit,.............. .......... If it looks like a bailout, smells like a bailout, it's a bailout. We are now into the realm of fantasy politics from the two trying to outdo each other in a pissing contest of national economic stupidity in a desperate attempt to appeal to the terminally gullible.
Beyond that we have the Brexit Party's plans- the markets rightly get jittery at the prospect of a Corbyn government's spending plans , but Farage's bunch of chancers are on a whole new level and yet normally sensible people get all-dewy eyed and believe this shit because it's done under the shrill and piercing dog-whistle of Brexit.
I've given up, people can have their poxy no deal. I will have no sympathy for anyone who supported this route who ends up flat on their arse, it's just a shame they will drag so many innocent parties down with them.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jul 1, 2019 20:41:17 GMT
i can only find the reference below. Hardly a bail-out. You don't really expect us to leave the domination of and entanglement in the EU empire and there not be some financial changes in the short and long term? I think that you are " barrel scraping" to quote your "close" colleague....looking for non existent problems and then maximising them. The EU of course have been tsking OUR money and subsidising the French farmers and Dutch fishermen for years through the CAP. and CFP. ..... where dome if our farmers have got used to subsidies on the back of this ( some arguably immorally so such as Heseltine's £90.000 per year for doing nothing)....seems sensible to replace the EU( OUR) grants in thr short term with OUR( OUR) grants until we evolve our own better structure..... doesn't it? ....thst would give certainty in the short term. .......... The Foreign Secretary will add: "If you're a sheep farmer in Shropshire or a fisherman in Peterhead I have a simple message for you - I know you face uncertainty if we have to leave the EU without a deal. "I will mitigate the impact of no-deal Brexit on you and step in to help smooth those short-term difficulties. "If we could do it for the bankers in the financial crisis, we can do it for our fishermen, farmers and small businesses now." www.holyrood.com/articles/news/jeremy-hunt-pledges-%C2%A36bn-farming-and-fishing-industries-cope-no-deal-brexit,.............. .......... If it looks like a bailout, smells like a bailout, it's a bailout. We are now into the realm of fantasy politics from the two trying to outdo each other in a pissing contest of national economic stupidity in a desperate attempt to appeal to the terminally gullible.
Beyond that we have the Brexit Party's plans- the markets rightly get jittery at the prospect of a Corbyn government's spending plans , but Farage's bunch of chancers are on a whole new level and yet normally sensible people get all-dewy eyed and believe this shit because it's done under the shrill and piercing dog-whistle of Brexit.
I've given up, people can have their poxy no deal. I will have no sympathy for anyone who supported this route who ends up flat on their arse, it's just a shame they will drag so many innocent parties down with them.
No its just sensible readjustment whilst re get our sovereignty back. You expect us to leave and it be utopia? I don't.
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Post by bathstoke on Jul 1, 2019 20:50:57 GMT
i can only find the reference below. Hardly a bail-out. You don't really expect us to leave the domination of and entanglement in the EU empire and there not be some financial changes in the short and long term? I think that you are " barrel scraping" to quote your "close" colleague....looking for non existent problems and then maximising them. The EU of course have been tsking OUR money and subsidising the French farmers and Dutch fishermen for years through the CAP. and CFP. ..... where dome if our farmers have got used to subsidies on the back of this ( some arguably immorally so such as Heseltine's £90.000 per year for doing nothing)....seems sensible to replace the EU( OUR) grants in thr short term with OUR( OUR) grants until we evolve our own better structure..... doesn't it? ....thst would give certainty in the short term. .......... The Foreign Secretary will add: "If you're a sheep farmer in Shropshire or a fisherman in Peterhead I have a simple message for you - I know you face uncertainty if we have to leave the EU without a deal. "I will mitigate the impact of no-deal Brexit on you and step in to help smooth those short-term difficulties. "If we could do it for the bankers in the financial crisis, we can do it for our fishermen, farmers and small businesses now." www.holyrood.com/articles/news/jeremy-hunt-pledges-%C2%A36bn-farming-and-fishing-industries-cope-no-deal-brexit,.............. .......... If it looks like a bailout, smells like a bailout, it's a bailout. We are now into the realm of fantasy politics from the two trying to outdo each other in a pissing contest of national economic stupidity in a desperate attempt to appeal to the terminally gullible.
Beyond that we have the Brexit Party's plans- the markets rightly get jittery at the prospect of a Corbyn government's spending plans , but Farage's bunch of chancers are on a whole new level and yet normally sensible people get all-dewy eyed and believe this shit because it's done under the shrill and piercing dog-whistle of Brexit.
I've given up, people can have their poxy no deal. I will have no sympathy for anyone who supported this route who ends up flat on their arse, it's just a shame they will drag so many innocent parties down with them.
I’m not a Corbyn man, but you can see what will happen here.these pair of cnuts will sell us down the river on their own vanity projects & the nation will sober up from their Brexitp!$$up & realise that they’ve been cheated & Corbyn will be the next PM, cause he will be the best of the bunch.
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 1, 2019 23:05:04 GMT
Can you explain what you mean Fog Those happy to go down the WTO route often say how the fishing industry will prosper outside the EU, but WTO means (according to Hunt) that the fishing industry will need a taxpayer bailout . If the fishing industry really is set to thrive outside the EU it should hardly need a bailout. The UK fishing industry receives Eu243m. during the years 2014-20 under the European Maritime and Fisheries Fund till the new investment fund starts. Details : ec.europa.eu/fisheries/cfp/emff_enYou'll see Spain, Italy, France and that other maritime nation Poland receive considerably more. The fund is clearly related to the length of coast line. Surely another example of how if we take back control we can look after our own better than Brussels. It is anticipated under the May "agreement" that to get a trade deal with the EU during the 2 years post leaving period, Whithall will trade way our (some of) fishing rights to UK coastal waters. We had to give up our fishing rights when we joined the Common Market 40 years ago and we might have to give them up again to leave the EU!!! www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-46264303www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/04/uk-to-take-charge-of-its-fishing-waters-under-post-brexit-plan"EU-based fleets land about eight times as much fish in UK waters as British fishermen do in EU waters, under the common fisheries policy, and the government has indicated that this access will be one of the key items under review."
I believe we should tell them where to stick there fishing boats and forget about £39 billion divorce bill. They are not getting anything. We have contributed over £120 billion net contribution to the EU since joining, and are now running a massive trade deficit with the EU. fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/I worked with and for European companies for many years and chaired a European committee. They are laughing at us as the biggest mugs going.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jul 2, 2019 8:44:37 GMT
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Post by Northy on Jul 2, 2019 9:27:14 GMT
Traitorous wankers ....
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jul 2, 2019 9:33:43 GMT
Is this disrespectful or making a consistent point , childish or effective legitimate protest? Suppose as usual it depends upon your position in respect of the EU. I like " Ode to Joy" . Stirring , positive and hopeful. For me it simply cements the concept of a United States of Europe, an anthem, a flag, embassies, power and control, supposedly a " parliament", MEPs ( a very well paid unnecessary job), a fiscal policy, a foreign policy...etc Personally I don't want that. /
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jul 2, 2019 9:42:14 GMT
Is this disrespectful or making a consistent point , childish or effective legitimate protest? Suppose as usual it depends upon your position in respect of the EU. I like " Ode to Joy" . Stirring , positive and hopeful. For me it simply cements the concept of a United States of Europe, an anthem, a flag, embassies, power and control, supposedly a " parliament", MEPs ( a very well paid unnecessary job), a fiscal policy, a foreign policy...etc Personally I don't want that. / Childish. If they're that disgusted about it, they should give their salary to charity. Amazed the pricks have turned up tbh.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jul 2, 2019 9:44:41 GMT
Childish. If they're that disgusted about it, they should give their salary to charity. Amazed the pricks have turned up tbh. If we'd been allowed to leave the 'pricks' wouldn't be there.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jul 2, 2019 9:49:34 GMT
Childish. If they're that disgusted about it, they should give their salary to charity. Amazed the pricks have turned up tbh. If we'd been allowed to leave the 'pricks' wouldn't be there. You can blame the ERG for that.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jul 2, 2019 9:59:48 GMT
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jul 2, 2019 10:39:09 GMT
Is this disrespectful or making a consistent point , childish or effective legitimate protest? Suppose as usual it depends upon your position in respect of the EU. I like " Ode to Joy" . Stirring , positive and hopeful. For me it simply cements the concept of a United States of Europe, an anthem, a flag, embassies, power and control, supposedly a " parliament", MEPs ( a very well paid unnecessary job), a fiscal policy, a foreign policy...etc Personally I don't want that. / Childish. If they're that disgusted about it, they should give their salary to charity. Amazed the pricks have turned up tbh. Good, hope they bring the whole shitfest to a complete standstill.
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Post by Davef on Jul 2, 2019 11:10:16 GMT
Childish. If they're that disgusted about it, they should give their salary to charity. Amazed the pricks have turned up tbh. If we'd been allowed to leave the 'pricks' wouldn't be there. The EU aren't stopping us leaving.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jul 2, 2019 11:27:30 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jul 2, 2019 11:29:56 GMT
Douglas and Patrick think it is a good protest. They would, wouldn't they? The EU does seem to "think" its a country doesn't it? Its a very expensive gravy train that has got out of hand, drunk on its own power.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 11:35:34 GMT
If we'd been allowed to leave the 'pricks' wouldn't be there. The EU aren't stopping us leaving. 😁
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Post by Davef on Jul 2, 2019 11:46:36 GMT
The EU aren't stopping us leaving. 😁 How are they stopping us exactly?
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Post by felonious on Jul 2, 2019 11:51:28 GMT
The EU aren't stopping us leaving. 😁 You can check in anytime you like But you can never leave
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Post by Davef on Jul 2, 2019 11:58:59 GMT
People with no power having a meeting to discuss something they have no power to implement.
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