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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 20, 2019 20:21:25 GMT
These shameless cunts in parliment will do anything they can to have delay after delay Doing more harm than good Just think what they could do about housing, crime, health etc, if they put as much effort in to those problems as they have into Brexit.
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Post by yeokel on Oct 20, 2019 20:22:46 GMT
Any vote with remain on the balllot means you’re voiding the first referendum, Voiding the first referendum will not go down well, it would cause massive voter apathy, I think a lot of people would boycott it if remain was on the ballot, they’ll just say “what’s the point” 100% correct. If leave won again,it would be back to all the hard brexit soft brexit shite. Labour just want to cancel brexit but won't say so. The truth is that Corbyn doesn't want to cancel Brexit, but can't say so.
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Post by salopstick on Oct 20, 2019 20:25:15 GMT
100% correct. If leave won again,it would be back to all the hard brexit soft brexit shite. Labour just want to cancel brexit but won't say so. The truth is that Corbyn doesn't want to cancel Brexit, but can't say so. He needs to whip his party into voting for Boris deal en masse just to have a sniff of winning an election
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Post by yeokel on Oct 20, 2019 20:28:58 GMT
I thought parliament got a say on workers rights ? in mays deal workers rights were in the main agreement under johnsons they have been removed and put in the political aims section. so any workers rights that you have now because of European law can be removed by a uk government as was pointed out earlier rabe is in favour of a lot of laws that restrict the worker and give power to the rich owners for example he wants it easier to sack anyone so you would not have stability in your job, all the power would be with the owners (rich) "as was pointed out earlier rabe is in favour of a lot of laws....." In your illiterate, moronic post, do you mean Raab? If you do, what does the Foreign secretary have to do with employment rights, pray tell? If you don't mean Raab, disregard the preamble and the question.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 20, 2019 20:32:23 GMT
The truth is that Corbyn doesn't want to cancel Brexit, but can't say so. He needs to whip his party into voting for Boris deal en masse just to have a sniff of winning an election And then campaign on other issues. If he has real faith in socialism Brexit would be something that could be overcome/worked with.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 20, 2019 20:34:44 GMT
Apparently
Probably because Boris has got the numbers to get his BIN0 through
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Post by salopstick on Oct 20, 2019 20:43:05 GMT
Apparently Probably because Boris has got the numbers to get his BIN0 through A threat of a GE that Boris and the tories will win a large majority they will be falling over themselves for the deal.
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Post by yeokel on Oct 20, 2019 20:44:23 GMT
These remainers are happy to have democracy denied as long as they win. One day they will win at something and have their democracy denied and they will cry It’s a fucking slippery slope Democracy is at the heart of the whole debate and I’m staggered just how many people want to conveniently forget about it Isn't that what the SNP are saying? That Scotland voted to Remain. Isn't that what Northern Ireland are saying? That NI voted to remain. Democracy is at the heart of this but what it means depends on where you live. And ultimately lead to a break up of the United Kingdom. A price worth paying? It wasn’t a ‘Scotland’ referendum, or a ‘Nothern Ireland’ referendum, it was a UK-wide referendum. The UK as a whole voted ‘Leave’, thus the UK as a whole should ‘Leave’. The Scots recently voted to remain part of the UK. As far as I understand things, the majority in N.Ireland wish to remain within the UK. Part of that deal, that understanding, involves accepting UK rules and regulations unless they have been devolved to a more local authority. This/these haven’t.
And, as for a breakup of the UK…. I would be happy to see a ‘united Ireland’. And I would be happy to see an ‘independent Scotland'. But whilst they choose to remain as part of the UK they need to accept all that goes with it. Both the good and the bad.
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 20, 2019 20:50:38 GMT
Isn't that what the SNP are saying? That Scotland voted to Remain. Isn't that what Northern Ireland are saying? That NI voted to remain. Democracy is at the heart of this but what it means depends on where you live. And ultimately lead to a break up of the United Kingdom. A price worth paying? It wasn’t a ‘Scotland’ referendum, or a ‘Nothern Ireland’ referendum, it was a UK-wide referendum. The UK as a whole voted ‘Leave’, thus the UK as a whole should ‘Leave’. The Scots recently voted to remain part of the UK. As far as I understand things, the majority in N.Ireland wish to remain within the UK. Part of that deal, that understanding, involves accepting UK rules and regulations unless they have been devolved to a more local authority. This/these haven’t.
And, as for a breakup of the UK…. I would be happy to see a ‘united Ireland’. And I would be happy to see an ‘independent Scotland'. But whilst they choose to remain as part of the UK they need to accept all that goes with it. Both the good and the bad. But but but that's not fair losers are the new winners if that isn't the case I am going to kick and scream for the next three and a half years until I get my own way, mummy mummy they have pinched my ball I demand you go get it back for me, tell those nasty men I must have my own way I must I demand it I don't like this democracy stuff unless I get my own way mummy.
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Oct 20, 2019 21:16:59 GMT
Scottish independence via a referendum you say?
Interesting concept, it’ll never be allowed.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 20, 2019 21:31:08 GMT
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Post by numpty40 on Oct 20, 2019 21:38:02 GMT
Isn't that what the SNP are saying? That Scotland voted to Remain. Isn't that what Northern Ireland are saying? That NI voted to remain. Democracy is at the heart of this but what it means depends on where you live. And ultimately lead to a break up of the United Kingdom. A price worth paying? It wasn’t a ‘Scotland’ referendum, or a ‘Nothern Ireland’ referendum, it was a UK-wide referendum. The UK as a whole voted ‘Leave’, thus the UK as a whole should ‘Leave’. The Scots recently voted to remain part of the UK. As far as I understand things, the majority in N.Ireland wish to remain within the UK. Part of that deal, that understanding, involves accepting UK rules and regulations unless they have been devolved to a more local authority. This/these haven’t. And, as for a breakup of the UK…. I would be happy to see a ‘united Ireland’. And I would be happy to see an ‘independent Scotland'. But whilst they choose to remain as part of the UK they need to accept all that goes with it. Both the good and the bad. I watched the 'Super Saturday' televised event full of anticipation. Sadly that excitement very quickly dissipated with the DUP and SNP repeatedly asking the same fucking questions with Boris having to repeatedly explain the same fucking answer. United Ireland and Independent Scotland? Yes please with an option for any Irish or Scot who doesn't want to remain in their respective independent country to relocate to England
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Post by yeokel on Oct 20, 2019 21:48:03 GMT
It wasn’t a ‘Scotland’ referendum, or a ‘Nothern Ireland’ referendum, it was a UK-wide referendum. The UK as a whole voted ‘Leave’, thus the UK as a whole should ‘Leave’. The Scots recently voted to remain part of the UK. As far as I understand things, the majority in N.Ireland wish to remain within the UK. Part of that deal, that understanding, involves accepting UK rules and regulations unless they have been devolved to a more local authority. This/these haven’t. And, as for a breakup of the UK…. I would be happy to see a ‘united Ireland’. And I would be happy to see an ‘independent Scotland'. But whilst they choose to remain as part of the UK they need to accept all that goes with it. Both the good and the bad. I watched the 'Super Saturday' televised event full of anticipation. Sadly that excitement very quickly dissipated with the DUP and SNP repeatedly asking the same fucking questions with Boris having to repeatedly explain the same fucking answer. United Ireland and Independent Scotland? Yes please with an option for any Irish or Scot who doesn't want to remain in their respective independent country to relocate to England I watched the whole thing from beginning to end. It was the first chance I’ve ever had to watch a whole parliamentary debate from start to finish. Fascinating stuff. They should do it more often on a Saturday. I enjoyed the paradox of the Scots all demanding the same ‘favourable’ deal that the N.Irish had been given, usually closely followed by an Irish MP complaining about what a crock of shit they had been handed,
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Post by xchpotter on Oct 20, 2019 23:37:20 GMT
If there's a 2nd vote it will be Johnsons deal or remain. There will be no reason to include no deal as all parties will support the result. You are living in cloud cuckoo land unless remain wins by over 60% You will not hear the end of it Remain has been wanking money up the wall on legal challenges ect ever since the vote The leave campaign has kept its powder dry if the vote is overturned it will run in the courts for years Just one question If remain wins by 52/53 % as a ardent leaver should I respect and accept the result or should I do all in my power to campaign to overturn the result No, you should respect the result if Remain won because that’s the only democracy they want. Oh and remember....no one likes a whiny, moaning sour grapes, cry baby who doesn’t get their way.
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 21, 2019 4:58:16 GMT
You are living in cloud cuckoo land unless remain wins by over 60% You will not hear the end of it Remain has been wanking money up the wall on legal challenges ect ever since the vote The leave campaign has kept its powder dry if the vote is overturned it will run in the courts for years Just one question If remain wins by 52/53 % as a ardent leaver should I respect and accept the result or should I do all in my power to campaign to overturn the result No, you should respect the result if Remain won because that’s the only democracy they want. Oh and remember....no one likes a whiny, moaning sour grapes, cry baby who doesn’t get their way. Just different versions of democracy
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Post by felonious on Oct 21, 2019 6:23:19 GMT
I think it's laughable that this shit is still being trotted out. I had a conversation with a couple of business owners last week I've known them for decades really nice people. I was trying desperately to avoid any conversation on the dreaded subject but failed miserably so one of them told me they voted Remain because they are Europeans and the other one said it was all about immigration and that's why hot spots like SOT voted for it. I have every sympathy with them trying to import and export beyond the 31st October when they have no idea on how to price and what prices will be heading their way. It's all the fault of our utterly useless MPs though this should have been sorted out a long time ago but democracy in action and the EU don't have a great history. You are such a sycophant Go and have a lie down Barth, your salt imbalance is affecting what goes on between your ears. Surely it must be obvious now to even your nearest in dearest
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Post by bathstoke on Oct 21, 2019 6:57:38 GMT
Go and have a lie down Barth, your salt imbalance is affecting what goes on between your ears. Surely it must be obvious now to even your nearest in dearest Golly, 11hrs to come up with that. Have you taken your senatogen today...
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Post by felonious on Oct 21, 2019 7:11:28 GMT
Go and have a lie down Barth, your salt imbalance is affecting what goes on between your ears. Surely it must be obvious now to even your nearest in dearest Golly, 11hrs to come up with that. Have you taken your senatogen today... I've only just seen it Barth sometimes life gets in the way of the Oatcake. You don't think I stay on here waiting for your gems do you? ... and check your spelling before you reply to me you useless wanker
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Post by partickpotter on Oct 21, 2019 7:31:42 GMT
Back from a long weekend in the Highlands and it’s been a long weekend for Brexit where lots has been going on but no progressed made.
So is today going to be a Super Monday and Squib Saturday?
President Bercow has the opportunity to show his equanimity in allowing the House to vote on the “Johnson Deal” that was supposed to have been voted on on Saturday.
A court up here will decide if Johnson’s failure to sign the Surrender letter amounts to contempt of court
Can Johnson secure enough votes to win?
Will the SNP force a general election?
A busy day. But still plenty of time for humongous amounts of hot air production from the green benches at Westminster.
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Post by bathstoke on Oct 21, 2019 7:34:51 GMT
Golly, 11hrs to come up with that. Have you taken your senatogen today... I've only just seen it Barth sometimes life gets in the way of the Oatcake. You don't think I stay on here waiting for your gems do you? ... and check your spelling before you reply to me you useless wanker 🤣Girl💋
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2019 7:48:49 GMT
Look, I'm just a simple ( leave it) man, and we all had a democratic vote, which ended in a leave majority. I've tried to adhere to the rules throughout my life. Did we get asked to leave with a deal? No. IMHO we should have told them we're leaving, as per the vote. Those people would then have had to decide how to do it, the Europeans that is, These clowns got us into this absolute mess, with their pandering to said Europeans. It's nothing short of a disgrace. The people voted out. Respect the vote. As I've said before, there would have been none of this, had the vote gone the other way. It stinks!
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Post by Northy on Oct 21, 2019 8:10:16 GMT
Back from a long weekend in the Highlands and it’s been a long weekend for Brexit where lots has been going on but no progressed made. So is today going to be a Super Monday and Squib Saturday? President Bercow has the opportunity to show his equanimity in allowing the House to vote on the “Johnson Deal” that was supposed to have been voted on on Saturday. A court up here will decide if Johnson’s failure to sign the Surrender letter amounts to contempt of court Can Johnson secure enough votes to win? Will the SNP force a general election? A busy day. But still plenty of time for humongous amounts of hot air production from the green benches at Westminster. It's about time that wanker was brought to heel news.sky.com/story/speaker-john-bercow-strayed-from-the-law-over-brexit-his-deputy-eleanor-laing-suggests-11840440
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Post by salopstick on Oct 21, 2019 8:19:19 GMT
Back from a long weekend in the Highlands and it’s been a long weekend for Brexit where lots has been going on but no progressed made. So is today going to be a Super Monday and Squib Saturday? President Bercow has the opportunity to show his equanimity in allowing the House to vote on the “Johnson Deal” that was supposed to have been voted on on Saturday. A court up here will decide if Johnson’s failure to sign the Surrender letter amounts to contempt of court Can Johnson secure enough votes to win? Will the SNP force a general election? A busy day. But still plenty of time for humongous amounts of hot air production from the green benches at Westminster. I hope the SNP force an election.
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Post by xchpotter on Oct 21, 2019 8:54:00 GMT
Back from a long weekend in the Highlands and it’s been a long weekend for Brexit where lots has been going on but no progressed made. So is today going to be a Super Monday and Squib Saturday? President Bercow has the opportunity to show his equanimity in allowing the House to vote on the “Johnson Deal” that was supposed to have been voted on on Saturday. A court up here will decide if Johnson’s failure to sign the Surrender letter amounts to contempt of court Can Johnson secure enough votes to win? Will the SNP force a general election? A busy day. But still plenty of time for humongous amounts of hot air production from the green benches at Westminster. It's about time that wanker was brought to heel news.sky.com/story/speaker-john-bercow-strayed-from-the-law-over-brexit-his-deputy-eleanor-laing-suggests-11840440Maybe he should be hauled before a court then if what she says is accurate. Oh no wait, doesn’t fit the agenda.
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Post by Northy on Oct 21, 2019 9:35:48 GMT
Maybe he should be hauled before a court then if what she says is accurate. Oh no wait, doesn’t fit the agenda. A bit like Blair & many others
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Post by starkiller on Oct 21, 2019 10:44:24 GMT
An example of the quality of many modern politicians.
Serious question, is this woman there on merit, or because of box-ticking?
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Post by Absolution on Oct 21, 2019 10:53:12 GMT
The thread's too big to go back over to see previous comments, so I apologise if this has already been mentioned or even done to death, but does anyone else see the Brexit Party as potentially being the biggest threat to Brexit?
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 21, 2019 10:54:52 GMT
An example of the quality of many modern politicians. Serious question, is this woman there on merit, or because of box-ticking? That is embarrassing and should be shown as a Tory party broadcast why you shouldn’t vote Liberal Democrat
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Post by serpico on Oct 21, 2019 11:11:30 GMT
Bercow expected the reject the vote 🙄
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Post by dirtygary69 on Oct 21, 2019 11:44:35 GMT
Look, I'm just a simple ( leave it) man, and we all had a democratic vote, which ended in a leave majority. I've tried to adhere to the rules throughout my life. Did we get asked to leave with a deal? No. IMHO we should have told them we're leaving, as per the vote. Those people would then have had to decide how to do it, the Europeans that is, These clowns got us into this absolute mess, with their pandering to said Europeans. It's nothing short of a disgrace. The people voted out. Respect the vote. As I've said before, there would have been none of this, had the vote gone the other way. It stinks! Isn't that THE point though? Even if you THOUGHT you voted to leave without a deal, you didn't, because that's not what was on the table. That's not Remainers being crying dickheads but a vote that was based on misinformation.
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