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Post by essexstokey on Jun 2, 2017 10:35:49 GMT
What's the difference between Elvis and Teresa May?
There have been numerous Elvis sightings.
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 2, 2017 11:01:06 GMT
See a she's even hiding from women's hour, as her candidate get charged with election fraud will be interesting to see if she turns up tonight now!! Make June the end of May! Don't let the facts get in the way of you making stuff up but the BBC were told 3 weeks ago she was not doing women's hour. She's like a spindley spider. You know she's lurking somewhere, but you just can't flush the £@#&er out 🕷
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Post by Skankmonkey on Jun 2, 2017 14:20:27 GMT
Contemplation of the two female Tory leaders this country has had brings to mind Marx's observation about history repeating itself - firstly as a tragedy and then as a farce.
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 2, 2017 14:35:13 GMT
What's the difference between Elvis and Teresa May?
There have been numerous Elvis sightings. As I said Corbyn has not been to any marginals only to safe seats or those with large memberships to start early for the next leadership campaign, meanwhile May has been visiting Labour heartlands, the person really hiding is Jezza.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Jun 2, 2017 14:40:47 GMT
May may I remind you all... No! The problem is the Tories run out of poor people's money!
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 2, 2017 15:16:45 GMT
What's the difference between Elvis and Teresa May?
There have been numerous Elvis sightings. As I said Corbyn has not been to any marginals only to safe seats or those with large memberships to start early for the next leadership campaign, meanwhile May has been visiting Labour heartlands, the person really hiding is Jezza. They seek her here, They seek her there 🐓
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 2, 2017 16:08:42 GMT
As I said Corbyn has not been to any marginals only to safe seats or those with large memberships to start early for the next leadership campaign, meanwhile May has been visiting Labour heartlands, the person really hiding is Jezza. They seek her here, They seek her there 🐓 Don't worry as of Friday you will be able to find her at 10 Downing Street for the next 5 years, hope this helps
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 2, 2017 16:40:11 GMT
They seek her here, They seek her there 🐓 Don't worry as of Friday you will be able to find her at 10 Downing Street for the next 5 years, hope this helps Even if she gets through there's little chance of 🐔 doing a 5 stretch. Unless of course she gets implicated in the crimes of Thanet
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Post by capto on Jun 2, 2017 16:50:19 GMT
Don't worry as of Friday you will be able to find her at 10 Downing Street for the next 5 years, hope this helps Even if she gets through there's little chance of 🐔 doing a 5 stretch. Unless of course she gets implicated in the crimes of Thanet
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 2, 2017 17:43:23 GMT
Even if she gets through there's little chance of 🐔 doing a 5 stretch. Unless of course she gets implicated in the crimes of Thanet "Lock 🐓 Up..."
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Post by essexstokey on Jun 2, 2017 17:47:31 GMT
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Post by oggyoggy on Jun 2, 2017 17:48:01 GMT
The problem with Thatcherism, fraise, is that you eventually run out of other people to exploit. Living standards and real world wages stagnate. Personal debt levels skyrocket to cover the shortfall and guess what? You get an economy that's heavily reliant on its financial services sector, which, in order to sustain growth, has to think of ever more creative ways to make money (ie. out of thin air). Remind you of anything? Another result of this system is that you get people in work having to use food banks. You get people homeless. You get people who can't receive healthcare when they need it. Who can't afford to bring up kids. You get 20,000 police laid off because money is more important than people. The rich get richer and the poor get fucked. It's an absolute sham and, to paraphrase the Usual Suspects, the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing people exactly like you - the white working class - that her economic policies were in any way sustainable, let alone necessary. They're not, and I'm afraid to say that you're nowhere near as independent a thinker as you like to believe. You've been being duped by one school of economic logic for decades - by Tories and by New Labour. Wakey wakey, rise and shine mate But, before I put my cross against our local Labour candidate I want to see his form of government in action, and his style of socialism producing positive results for the populace. How can you see his government in action without voting for him? Are you happy with austerity and the tories? If not, why not give him a chance. We can't stand to lose much more than we will under 5 more years of right wing, screw the middle and poor, hard brexit, provatising NHS and gathering money for the rich with the tories.
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Post by yeokel on Jun 2, 2017 18:42:20 GMT
But, before I put my cross against our local Labour candidate I want to see his form of government in action, and his style of socialism producing positive results for the populace. How can you see his government in action without voting for him? Are you happy with austerity and the tories? If not, why not give him a chance. We can't stand to lose much more than we will under 5 more years of right wing, screw the middle and poor, hard brexit, provatising NHS and gathering money for the rich with the tories. I can't vote "for him" because I live in Somerset and his constituency is in London somewhere. But, that said, I'd like someone to point me towards a country whose government follows similar policies to Corbyn so that we can judge whether he is worth a punt or not. I agree with many of the things he says but, for my money, I'd like to see hard-left policies working somewhere else to give me confidence to vote Labour on this ocassion. But nobody yet has given me an example to look at.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 2, 2017 21:27:04 GMT
How can you see his government in action without voting for him? Are you happy with austerity and the tories? If not, why not give him a chance. We can't stand to lose much more than we will under 5 more years of right wing, screw the middle and poor, hard brexit, provatising NHS and gathering money for the rich with the tories. I can't vote "for him" because I live in Somerset and his constituency is in London somewhere. But, that said, I'd like someone to point me towards a country whose government follows similar policies to Corbyn so that we can judge whether he is worth a punt or not. I agree with many of the things he says but, for my money, I'd like to see hard-left policies working somewhere else to give me confidence to vote Labour on this ocassion. But nobody yet has given me an example to look at. Cuba.
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Post by robstokie on Jun 2, 2017 21:31:53 GMT
May may I remind you all... To quote Mrs T (about socialism/the Labour Party) 'They do not care if the poor get poorer, as long as the rich get less rich'.
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Post by oggyoggy on Jun 2, 2017 22:57:15 GMT
How can you see his government in action without voting for him? Are you happy with austerity and the tories? If not, why not give him a chance. We can't stand to lose much more than we will under 5 more years of right wing, screw the middle and poor, hard brexit, provatising NHS and gathering money for the rich with the tories. I can't vote "for him" because I live in Somerset and his constituency is in London somewhere. But, that said, I'd like someone to point me towards a country whose government follows similar policies to Corbyn so that we can judge whether he is worth a punt or not. I agree with many of the things he says but, for my money, I'd like to see hard-left policies working somewhere else to give me confidence to vote Labour on this ocassion. But nobody yet has given me an example to look at. I am no global political expert but if Corbyn's labour stands for nationalised essentials and more help for the poor and needy with higher tax for the rich then look at some of the scandinavian countries. Denmark and Finland have lots of state ownership in railways and energy for example and they give tremendous state support and laws which are pro workers. Their education systems are exceptional and it is a state system. They consistently rank near the top of the happiest places to live in the world and best place to get ill, be a woman, grow old etc. Certainly in Denmark the highest earners pay high tax (over 50%) not sure about Finland.
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 2, 2017 23:03:57 GMT
I can't vote "for him" because I live in Somerset and his constituency is in London somewhere. But, that said, I'd like someone to point me towards a country whose government follows similar policies to Corbyn so that we can judge whether he is worth a punt or not. I agree with many of the things he says but, for my money, I'd like to see hard-left policies working somewhere else to give me confidence to vote Labour on this ocassion. But nobody yet has given me an example to look at. Cuba. Venezuela oh no better forget that and pretend Jeremy and little Owen were never big fans.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Jun 2, 2017 23:49:29 GMT
Venezuela oh no better forget that and pretend Jeremy and little Owen were never big fans. If you to see how nationalisation works, most of our train franchises and utilities are run by European nationalised companies. All those profits being siphoned off to the E.U. again! But, you don't have to look at Britain to see how trickle down economics work. Tried by George Bush Snr. Jnr. in America and led to record deficits, 40,000 Americans dying unnecessarily every year because they couldn't afford health insurance, and the biggest economic crash since The Great Depression. Poverty levels in some American cities that make Cuba seem a paradise. Are you aware some Western countries sent experts out to Cuba to examine their health care system because it is one of best, most efficient in the world? You either want to carry on down the same route of the incredibly well-off getting richer and the struggling bottom getting poorer or you want a fair shot for the ordinary Joe in the street?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2017 2:54:31 GMT
It's called greed! There are many greedy bar stewards, who do not give a flying f--k for anyone except themselves. Personally, it sickens me!
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 3, 2017 7:38:44 GMT
May may I remind you all... To quote Mrs T (about socialism/the Labour Party) 'They do not care if the poor get poorer, as long as the rich get less rich'. Yeah, She got a lot wrong in our time, all of which have compounded & festered. She was smart, but not clever. Shrewd, but not wise. Radical, but no genius. She once said that if it wasn't for the rich merchant in the parable of the Good Samaritan, the story wouldn't have worked. At best, that statement was provocative, at worse ignorant. Back to the original quote. It's not the money of the rich that people are bothered about, but its power & corruption. "The love of money is the root of all evil."
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Post by Skankmonkey on Jun 3, 2017 10:52:50 GMT
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jun 3, 2017 11:11:13 GMT
Is it all a conspiracy and the Tories are deliberately trying to throw this so that when it comes to Brexit negotiations they can absolve themselves of any responsibility?
I think the Tories will still win but lose a couple of seats.
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 6, 2017 7:16:02 GMT
Only 3 days to go. She doesn't have our best interests at heart, that's what this election is all about. She wants to steamroller the Tory view of Brexit through, not the people's view. It's a sure thing that when the winners emerge from her Brexit, we will be at the bottom of the pile. Don't give her the chance.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jun 6, 2017 7:50:14 GMT
Take a look at @sebastianepayne's Tweet:
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jun 6, 2017 7:55:33 GMT
Only 3 days to go. She doesn't have our best interests at heart, that's what this election is all about. She wants to steamroller the Tory view of Brexit through, not the people's view. It's a sure thing that when the winners emerge from her Brexit, we will be at the bottom of the pile. Don't give her the chance. Bath Brexit is not a Tory issue. It is cross party. Answer this question please....when Merkel ceases her position as the leader of the EU , who takes over and how is the process to replace her decided?
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jun 6, 2017 8:06:07 GMT
Only 3 days to go. She doesn't have our best interests at heart, that's what this election is all about. She wants to steamroller the Tory view of Brexit through, not the people's view. It's a sure thing that when the winners emerge from her Brexit, we will be at the bottom of the pile. Don't give her the chance. Bath Brexit is not a Tory issue. It is cross party. Answer this question please....when Merkel ceases her position as the leader of the EU , who takes over and how is the process to replace her decided? For someone who has a decent knowledge of the EU, it seems strange that you think Merkel is the leader of the EU.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jun 6, 2017 8:08:32 GMT
What's the difference between Elvis and Teresa May?
There have been numerous Elvis sightings. Don't be cruel.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jun 6, 2017 8:13:41 GMT
Bath Brexit is not a Tory issue. It is cross party. Answer this question please....when Merkel ceases her position as the leader of the EU , who takes over and how is the process to replace her decided? For someone who has a decent knowledge of the EU, it seems strange that you think Merkel is the leader of the EU. Rip I almost pedantically included a sarcastic allusion to Merkel being the leader in my post but have not really got the time. What do you think in reality is Merkel's position and in reality who is the leader? ( no need to go down the smoke and mirrors of the constitution/structure with me...commission, parliament, groupings, presidents, Eurogroup, because you are right I do understand how it works). www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/15/angela-merkel-germany-ukraine-putin-obama
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jun 6, 2017 8:18:59 GMT
For someone who has a decent knowledge of the EU, it seems strange that you think Merkel is the leader of the EU. Rip I almost pedantically included a sarcastic allusion to Merkel being the leader in my post but have not really got the time. What do you think in reality is Merkel's position and in reality who is the leader? ( no need to go down the smoke and mirrors of the constitution/structure with me...commission, parliament, groupings, presidents, Eurogroup, because you are right I do understand how it works). www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/15/angela-merkel-germany-ukraine-putin-obamaA mix of the heads of member states (of which Merkel is a particularly influential one), and the presidents of the EU and EU Commission. Maybe there's some other big players, but off the top of my head they're the main three.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jun 6, 2017 8:20:23 GMT
Even IF corbyn was to win... How long do you think he'd last before his own party would try to oust him, lest face it they've tried twice before. If he does fail as expected he'll be gone with in I we I'd say They tried to oust him because they think/thought that he is unelectable to the British public. If he were to be elected (which I don't think he will) that arguement would be null and void.
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