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Post by bayernoatcake on May 26, 2017 8:42:47 GMT
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Post by jeycov on May 26, 2017 8:43:49 GMT
Good business imo - a capable and versatile squad player
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 26, 2017 8:45:04 GMT
Good business imo - a capable and versatile squad player He's contracted until he's 35.  If he could pass wind, I might be just about ok with it. |
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Post by bandit on May 26, 2017 8:45:53 GMT
Best utility player in the club well done Mark
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Post by bandit on May 26, 2017 8:51:01 GMT
Could"nt pass wind but luckily can cross a ball, he put that pin point cross last Sunday for Crouch to bury and earn 3 points.
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Post by scfcmacca on May 26, 2017 8:53:32 GMT
Two year extension taking him up to 2020. Good squad player
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Post by FullerMagic on May 26, 2017 8:53:50 GMT
Christ - that's a bit excessive.
He's 32 in July.
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Post by metalhead on May 26, 2017 8:54:34 GMT
Effectively finishes his career at Stoke then.
Good squad player like you said.
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Post by peterthornesboots on May 26, 2017 8:54:38 GMT
I'm not sure what the issue is? He's a good utility player and is deserving of a new deal. However, there are issues with handing out contracts to certain other players (*cough* Glen Johnson *cough*) |
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Post by essexstokey on May 26, 2017 8:55:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 8:56:57 GMT
Do players stay at Stoke longer than players stay at other clubs?
It's rare we lose players, especially those in and around the match day squad.
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Post by shrewspotter on May 26, 2017 8:57:09 GMT
hmmmm, I am not convinced. Really think we need fresh blood and by handing out new contracts like Xmas cards to the senior pro's could bite us in the arse.
I actually don't think Cam is a bad player but he has 12 months left, he isn't going anywhere and his stock will only de-value so unsure why the need to offer him new terms. Its players like Ramadan and (ermmm! cant think of anyone else) that we should be tying into long term deals
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Post by bandit on May 26, 2017 8:59:25 GMT
Butland got a 4 year contract knowing he will never see that out with Stoke, every player gets longer than needed it's the way it works unfortunately.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 26, 2017 9:00:34 GMT
Could"nt pass wind but luckily can cross a ball, he put that pin point cross last Sunday for Crouch to bury and earn 3 points. His bi-annual good cross.  |
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Post by followyoudown on May 26, 2017 9:00:41 GMT
Could"nt pass wind but luckily can cross a ball, he put that pin point cross last Sunday for Crouch to bury and earn 3 points. Well he's been here 5 years had to happen eventually  I'm happy with extending his contract, one of the best options we have for central midfield in the current squad. |
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Post by warringtonstokie on May 26, 2017 9:01:36 GMT
Bardsley's got one too.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 26, 2017 9:02:11 GMT
I'm not sure what the issue is? He's a good utility player and is deserving of a new deal. However, there are issues with handing out contracts to certain other players (*cough* Glen Johnson *cough*) It takes him to he's 35, there's just no need for that. He had a year left that took until he's 33. He's getting more injuries as he gets older (as you'd expect) and relies on athleticism, which for an aging player is a worry. He's also a crap footballer. |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on May 26, 2017 9:02:28 GMT
He is a useful squad player but the overall age of the group is a big worry , we looked way off the pace last season in lots of games
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Post by FullerMagic on May 26, 2017 9:05:30 GMT
Giving him the extra year to 2019 would have been ample surely?
Contracting him up to 35 seems like overkill and pretty risky.
Let's see how many more of the 2018 lot get extended as we're seemingly on to them now.......
2018
Adam Johnson Whelan Haugaard Walters Shawcross Diouf Wollscheid Crouch Bardsley (Ireland)
2019
Afellay Muniesa Joselu Grant
2020
Arnautovic Pieters Shaqiri Bojan Sobhi Cameron
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Imbula Allen Butland
2022
Berahino
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Post by peterthornesboots on May 26, 2017 9:07:07 GMT
I'm not sure what the issue is? He's a good utility player and is deserving of a new deal. However, there are issues with handing out contracts to certain other players (*cough* Glen Johnson *cough*) It takes him to he's 35, there's just no need for that. He had a year left that took until he's 33. He's getting more injuries as he gets older (as you'd expect) and relies on athleticism, which for an aging player is a worry. He's also a crap footballer. How old is Ibrahimovic? How old is Totti? This idea that once you hit 30 your career is over is really out dated. Our knowledge and application of sport science in the modern game means that the longevity of a player's career is greatly enhanced. I wouldn't say he's a fantastic player but he's done well in various roles this season when required. |
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Post by jeycov on May 26, 2017 9:10:48 GMT
Giving him the extra year to 2019 would have been ample surely? Contracting him up to 35 seems like overkill and pretty risky. Let's see how many more of the 2018 get extended as we're seeminly on to them now....... 2018 Adam Johnson Whelan Haugaard Walters Shawcross Diouf Wollscheid Crouch Bardsley (Ireland) 2019 Afellay Muniesa Joselu Grant 2020 Arnautovic Pieters Shaqiri Bojan Sobhi Cameron2021 Imbula Allen Butland 2022 Berahino You've missed Hughes off the list ? |
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Post by bandit on May 26, 2017 9:11:36 GMT
It takes him to he's 35, there's just no need for that. He had a year left that took until he's 33. He's getting more injuries as he gets older (as you'd expect) and relies on athleticism, which for an aging player is a worry. He's also a crap footballer. How old is Ibrahimovic? How old is Totti? This idea that once you hit 30 your career is over is really out dated. Our knowledge and application of sport science in the modern game means that the longevity of a player's career is greatly enhanced. I wouldn't say he's a fantastic player but he's done well in various roles this season when required. You are replying to a bloke who is the most negative poster on this board and never puts any positivity to Stoke whatsoever. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 26, 2017 9:12:11 GMT
It takes him to he's 35, there's just no need for that. He had a year left that took until he's 33. He's getting more injuries as he gets older (as you'd expect) and relies on athleticism, which for an aging player is a worry. He's also a crap footballer. How old is Ibrahimovic? How old is Totti? This idea that once you hit 30 your career is over is really out dated. Our knowledge and application of sport science in the modern game means that the longevity of a player's career is greatly enhanced. I wouldn't say he's a fantastic player but he's done well in various roles this season when required. You've mentioned two absolutely world class footballers. If Cameron could trap and pass consistently I'd be a bit more convinced but he can't. He relies on his athleticism to get him out of holes and going forward that's a worry esepcially as he gets more injuries. He's done well in midfield but he's also highlighted exactly what we actually need in there. |
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Post by marwood on May 26, 2017 9:18:29 GMT
Only the most "glass isnt only half empty, its smashed -and ive cut my finger on it and I dont even have any Mr Men plasters left " of Stoke fans would see this as bad news.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 9:18:58 GMT
Christ - that's a bit excessive. He's 32 in July. I would agree in some cases, but whatever your opinion on Geoff Cameron as a footballer he's an absolute athlete and probably the fittest player at the club..... |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 26, 2017 9:19:28 GMT
Only the most "glass isnt only half empty, its smashed -and ive cut my finger on it and I dont even have any Mr Men plasters left " of Stoke fans would see this as bad news. Contracting an average/poor player up until he's 35? Where's the positive news there? |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 9:23:32 GMT
September 1st will reveal all.
I'm now shitting myself.
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Post by barcaontrent on May 26, 2017 9:24:01 GMT
Going down down down! OLE OLEEE OLE OLE!!
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Post by FullerMagic on May 26, 2017 9:25:48 GMT
Christ - that's a bit excessive. He's 32 in July. I would agree in some cases, but whatever your opinion on Geoff Cameron as a footballer he's an absolute athlete and probably the fittest player at the club..... Agree to a point. He's a fine athlete, but banking on him retaining that athletic edge for another 3 years into his mid-30s is still a gamble, especially when it's pretty much the only elite quality he offers. I think 2019 would've been fair enough. |
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Post by marwood on May 26, 2017 9:28:46 GMT
Only the most "glass isnt only half empty, its smashed -and ive cut my finger on it and I dont even have any Mr Men plasters left " of Stoke fans would see this as bad news. Contracting an average/poor player up until he's 35? Where's the positive news there? I wouldnt necessarilly see it as positive, my point is that its hardly the most negative news weve had. Agree it ages the side but I dont think he is in the same bracket as SJW or Whelan Personally I dont find him a bad player -and at 35 he will probably be able to run rings around most 30 year olds |
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