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Post by rawli on May 23, 2017 21:00:59 GMT
There isn't a player around who would join everton over stoke because they won some trophies in the 80's. All these players care about is the money. But everton spent a shed load of cash on bolasie and look what happened. They have also boldly declared they have 100 million to spend, well they have just added ten mill to the price of any player they sign and thereby inflated the transfer market even more. We really need to focus on our own coaching, improving our own youngsters and giving them chances in the first team. There is no good value in the transfer market for any premier league club There is value - look at Dele Alli, Kante, Drinkwater, Holgate. Just needs better scouting than seeing someone give Whelan and Adam the runaround during a sunny friendly. |
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Post by thehoof on May 23, 2017 23:07:47 GMT
What about this Gibson lad from Middlesbrough. Paper talk on about Pulis and some other manager after him. Seems to get good reports, or do we not need him in the position he plays? Thoughts! If we are daft enough to pay anything near £20 m for that spunk bubble and chase Maguire then we deserve to be relegated. Both are marginally better than useless. |
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Post by nathstoke86 on May 24, 2017 6:17:51 GMT
Then if there useless what does that make out back 4? Cause boro conceded less goals that us! It was just scoring goals that was there problem but let's be honest we been lucky ourselves cause we score harshly any
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Post by BraveSirRobin on May 24, 2017 8:24:07 GMT
Then if there useless what does that make out back 4? Cause boro conceded less goals that us! It was just scoring goals that was there problem but let's be honest we been lucky ourselves cause we score harshly any Middlesbroughs whole team defended that's why they didn't concede much..thats also why they went down as they never attacked either. |
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Post by hudsondays on May 24, 2017 8:42:14 GMT
All very well talking about who to buy, but can those with closer links to the club explain to me why none of the products of the academy seems to come through as first-team players?
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Post by The Drunken Communist on May 24, 2017 9:07:05 GMT
How come people only ever mention a handful of players who were moderately successful at other clubs? They never mention all the failiures do they! Just an example off the top of my head, look at when Norwich signed that Wolfswinkle fella (Or whatever his name was) This place was on suicide watch. "We should have signed him, he'll rip this league apart, easily a 20+ goal a season man, fucking shit Stoke that we didn't outbid Norwich & sign him"... He went on to do fuck all & was possibley the biggest waste of money in Premier League history. Doesn't give us a chance to moan at how shit we are then though, so we'll ignore him.
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Post by Veritas on May 24, 2017 11:06:15 GMT
I think it's money well spent you only had too look what he did at villa, he will score lot more next season he will hit 20 goals. What stoke problem is they spend 10 mill and 6 mill on striker and they do nothing might as well spend 20+ mill on 1 good striker and I can't argue with how well crouch as done but is that just because shows how poor the rest are?? Like how can bony lose is class when he comes too stoke ?? He always scored goals. I read what Alex furguson said yesterday that players mirror there manager on how they performe, we only have look how much passion Hughes shows... nothing he looks like he cba You could say exactly the same about Bony, just look at what he did at Swansea, so he was obviously going to be a great success here? It ain't that easy or we would all be Premier League managers! |
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Post by dutchstokie on May 24, 2017 11:22:22 GMT
There isn't a player around who would join everton over stoke because they won some trophies in the 80's. All these players care about is the money. But everton spent a shed load of cash on bolasie and look what happened. They have also boldly declared they have 100 million to spend, well they have just added ten mill to the price of any player they sign and thereby inflated the transfer market even more. We really need to focus on our own coaching, improving our own youngsters and giving them chances in the first team. There is no good value in the transfer market for any premier league club 'Top table' and 'crumbs' spring to mind here Here's hoping Leslie DOES blood some youngsters next season....I can't se Sir Pete being too chuffed otherwise, given what he's chucked at it |
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Post by nathstoke86 on May 24, 2017 11:45:18 GMT
I would love youth been given a chance but we won't cause Hughes don't have the balls too. These hungry players will be up for it look at rashford we could have a youth player who will be the same for us
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Post by RichJonesy on May 24, 2017 16:24:50 GMT
Makes me laugh people always say "look at Imbula/Bony" (delete as appropriate) or, how did we miss out on schneiderlein and benteke and so on....
But they always seem to forget the Jacks, Arnies, Shaqiris and Ramadans the club has signed.
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Post by nathstoke86 on May 24, 2017 16:30:41 GMT
In respect in what your saying what as shaq done ?? He done nothing and as for arnie who is my fav player but what's as he done this year?? Nothing what's he got 6 goals? Just because we signed certain players doesn't mean we can keep missing out on proven players in the league
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Post by RichJonesy on May 24, 2017 16:39:02 GMT
In respect in what your saying what as shaq done ?? He done nothing and as for arnie who is my fav player but what's as he done this year?? Nothing what's he got 6 goals? Just because we signed certain players doesn't mean we can keep missing out on proven players in the league Shaqiri has scored som blinders and made some assists this season. Same for Arnie. The whole team is different with Arnie in it. So I'd say we don't keep missing out on proven players. And proven Orem players for me Allen, Crouch, Johnson, Charlie (to an extent) ad also Saido (to a slightly less extent) have all done it and were proven before they signed for us but realistically we can't sign every proven player can we?? We can't afford and we couldn't ever fit them all them in! Ever. |
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Post by Pugsley on May 24, 2017 17:03:03 GMT
I've always thought every year the fan can see a player with quality but Hughes never seems too spot them or don't try too get them. For one when Everton got bolasie palace got benteke and sigurdson before he went back Swansea morgan schneiderlin was class and proven in the league but yet Hughes waste 18 mill on imbula who never played in the prem same as Joselu and diouf he wasted some money Which one of the top teams are you scouting for mate? |
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Post by salopstick on May 24, 2017 17:25:41 GMT
Schneiderlin only cost 2 or 3 million more than Imbula... It's irelevant if they won't come to Stoke |
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 24, 2017 17:33:00 GMT
I would love youth been given a chance but we won't cause Hughes don't have the balls too. These hungry players will be up for it look at rashford we could have a youth player who will be the same for us Do we have anyone good enough, its all very well saying he won't play them but if there isn't anyone near any good then what can he do. |
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Post by nathstoke86 on May 24, 2017 17:38:11 GMT
Johnson crouch Adam Allen been very good players but they all got sold from there clubs cause weren't good enuff. And it's good having experience players but with youth around them who we got around crouch Walters who we got around Allen whelan Johnson no where near good enuff. All am saying is don't take a rocket scientist too see who we need and the players all the fans seem too see
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Post by RichJonesy on May 24, 2017 19:39:47 GMT
Johnson crouch Adam Allen been very good players but they all got sold from there clubs cause weren't good enuff. And it's good having experience players but with youth around them who we got around crouch Walters who we got around Allen whelan Johnson no where near good enuff. All am saying is don't take a rocket scientist too see who we need and the players all the fans seem too see Sigurdsdon, benteke and schneiderlein all got sold because they weren't good enough to. |
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Post by nathstoke86 on May 24, 2017 20:14:05 GMT
But they are young still Adam crouch Johnson arnt
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Post by Davef on May 24, 2017 20:33:48 GMT
But they are young still Adam crouch Johnson arnt Crouch was 30 when we signed him. No spring chicken I'll grant you, but I bet Palace don't get as good value from Benteke as we've got from Crouch. Charlie Adam was 26 when we signed him. We've had our money's worth out of him as well. |
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Post by nathstoke86 on May 24, 2017 21:32:07 GMT
Was he my mistake he looks about 40 Adam does ha. I just feel we need pace and players who will run at players am really happy with sobhi he looks class just want a few more I think few free agents from Man City will do
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