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Post by cozmick on May 18, 2017 5:59:07 GMT
The F.A will have a 3 man panel which will meet every Monday to discuss the serial cheats of the weekends football and issue, with immediate effect a ban.
The verdict requires a unanimous decision.
Time to have a word with Xherdan Mr Hughes.
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Post by lawrieleslie on May 18, 2017 6:03:48 GMT
Ok by me providing that there can be no appeal to the decisions of the panel. However don't under estimate the power of the brown envelopes pushed through the FA front door late on Sunday night.
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Post by xchpotter on May 18, 2017 6:10:21 GMT
Basic rules for the panel:
If he plays for one of the big clubs then he's entitled to go down for that.
If he plays for any other club, it's a dive.
Simple.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 6:10:40 GMT
Hopefully we will see the best from Shaq now.
More than a few times I was left seething that if he'd stayed on his feet he could have either scored or created for someone else...
At the same time as being one of our best players for a long time, he is also one of our worst for trying to con a referee.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 6:12:45 GMT
The F.A will have a 3 man panel which will meet every Monday to discuss the serial cheats of the weekends football and issue, with immediate effect a ban. The verdict requires a unanimous decision. Time to have a word with Xherdan Mr Hughes. Ought to be straight after each days fixtures, as you could have some cheating twat diving like Tom Daley on the Monday Night game, then free to play at the weekend...Failing that Tue Mornings, with bans imposed immediately should a Tue night fixture be affected. |
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Post by Olgrligm on May 18, 2017 6:38:36 GMT
They should have done this years ago, But it's a step in the right direction.
As we all know, they won't enforce it properly. The 'slightest of touches' will be used to justify all manner of cheating. I guarantee that after five games, Arsenal and Spurs will have no players banned, but we will have at least one player banned.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 18, 2017 6:50:45 GMT
So will someone like John Terry be deciding if a Chelsea player dived?
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 18, 2017 7:06:06 GMT
Sounds ambiguous and open to bias.
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Post by lordb on May 18, 2017 7:07:09 GMT
Sounds ambiguous and open to bias. The alternative is to carry on as we are. Got to be worth a try |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 18, 2017 7:09:43 GMT
Sounds ambiguous and open to bias. The alternative is to carry on as we are. Got to be worth a try Surely the alternative is if you get booked for diving, it's a one game ban irrespective of what a panel think? It's black and white then. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 18, 2017 7:18:31 GMT
The alternative is to carry on as we are. Got to be worth a try Surely the alternative is if you get booked for diving, it's a one game ban irrespective of what a panel think? It's black and white then. You've got to assume that that will happen. You can't have people not suspended for dives that the referee did see but punished for the ones that he didn't. |
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Post by Gods on May 18, 2017 7:19:41 GMT
Something which is not clear to me, if you fall under contact but that contact would not have taken you down if your first thought is to remain on your feet is that a dive?
Well plainly it is a dive so really my question is will or it count as a dive?
This is the area in which I can see this thing crashing and burning.
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Post by apb1 on May 18, 2017 7:30:16 GMT
It's great. And not before time. Simulation too I hope so the people clutching their face when hit in the shoulder get banned too. Of course it will be unsatisfactory but if it makes any difference at all it will be worth it. I would say the yellow in game is enough and we might see people confessing and asking to be booked as a result  But...imagine when the dive has led to a penalty, or card for another player. Longer ban? Yellows withdrawn? |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 7:34:06 GMT
Good news. Bring this in this season then increase the sanctions to fining managers and docking points for repeat offences and offenders next season.
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Post by Northy on May 18, 2017 7:34:25 GMT
Something which is not clear to me, if you fall under contact but that contact would not have taken you down if your first thought is to remain on your feet is that a dive? Well plainly it is a dive so really my question is will or it count as a dive? This is the area in which I can see this thing crashing and burning. that sounds like a line from Billy Idol's kingrocker |
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Post by Davef on May 18, 2017 7:47:54 GMT
Something which is not clear to me, if you fall under contact but that contact would not have taken you down if your first thought is to remain on your feet is that a dive? Well plainly it is a dive so really my question is will or it count as a dive? This is the area in which I can see this thing crashing and burning. You simply have no way of knowing that a player couldn't stay on his feet if there is contact, however minimal. That's just opinion. What is fact is that players go down under no contact or manipulate contact by moving their trailing leg into a challenge. That's what will be punished, and rightly so. |
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Post by werrington on May 18, 2017 7:53:42 GMT
It's cheating and should be punished accordingly
Playing devils advocate and expanding all this and for those who slaughter Shaqiri, what are your feelings towards Crouch for his deliberate handball and ultimate wheeling away in celebration after ?
It's all relative surely?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 18, 2017 7:57:42 GMT
It's cheating and should be punished accordingly Playing devils advocate and expanding all this and for those who slaughter Shaqiri, what are your feelings towards Crouch for his deliberate handball and ultimate wheeling away in celebration after ? It's all relative surely? Crouch was out of order on Saturday mate but for me it's a one off whereas Shaqiri dives week in week out |
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Post by werrington on May 18, 2017 8:22:08 GMT
It's cheating and should be punished accordingly Playing devils advocate and expanding all this and for those who slaughter Shaqiri, what are your feelings towards Crouch for his deliberate handball and ultimate wheeling away in celebration after ? It's all relative surely? Crouch was out of order on Saturday mate but for me it's a one off whereas Shaqiri dives week in week out Once or x20 mate it makes no difference...he cheated end of I personally don't give a shite as until everybody stops then we should play on the same ball park and I've no problem with him for doing it It's just that nobody on here seems to be in arms over one of our players getting away with it ...or is it because it's Crouch ? |
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Post by Onneravineet on May 18, 2017 8:26:00 GMT
The F.A will have a 3 man panel which will meet every Monday to discuss the serial cheats of the weekends football and issue, with immediate effect a ban. The verdict requires a unanimous decision. Time to have a word with Xherdan Mr Hughes. I have wanted this for a decade and thank god it is happening! Good for the FA, credit where it is due. Next, they need to put microphones on referees. For the first half of the season they use the recordings to "coach" teams and players as to what would have resulted in yellow cards and sending offs. Maybe even for the full season? Then, go live. Send the pricks off that swear and berate the refs and make it so that the whole ground can hear the conversations when the ref explains what he has seen. Just like in Rugby. If this was to coincide with the video ref and replays of dirty tackles or dives etc it would make for a much better atmosphere and game day experience in my opinion. It would also help the poor standard of refereeing in the country. Plus it would also take the vitriolic side out of the abuse screamed far too regularly. You never know, we may then get treated like adults who can be trusted to drink in sight of a pitch!? |
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Post by Gods on May 18, 2017 8:28:00 GMT
It's cheating and should be punished accordingly Playing devils advocate and expanding all this and for those who slaughter Shaqiri, what are your feelings towards Crouch for his deliberate handball and ultimate wheeling away in celebration after ? It's all relative surely? The hand of Crouch ! |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 18, 2017 8:30:47 GMT
Crouch was out of order on Saturday mate but for me it's a one off whereas Shaqiri dives week in week out Once or x20 mate it makes no difference...he cheated end of I personally don't give a shite as until everybody stops then we should play on the same ball park and I've no problem with him for doing it It's just that nobody on here seems to be in arms over one of our players getting away with it ...or is it because it's Crouch ? It certainly does make a difference for me mate.Nothing has been made of it for me due to us losing 4-1 and how dire the performance was.If it had been a goal that robbed them of points you'd have heard nothing else in the media since. Can't subscribe to the can't beat him join them attitude either mate |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 18, 2017 8:31:00 GMT
Surely the alternative is if you get booked for diving, it's a one game ban irrespective of what a panel think? It's black and white then. You've got to assume that that will happen. You can't have people not suspended for dives that the referee did see but punished for the ones that he didn't. Indeed. But that begs the question about what is the point of the panel? |
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Post by SCFC92 on May 18, 2017 8:32:21 GMT
Fantastic, just as long as it is enforced fairly and without bias.
So probably not fantastic then!
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 18, 2017 8:32:32 GMT
It's cheating and should be punished accordingly Playing devils advocate and expanding all this and for those who slaughter Shaqiri, what are your feelings towards Crouch for his deliberate handball and ultimate wheeling away in celebration after ? It's all relative surely? I don't think it was deliberate was it? He completely and utterly fucked up the header didn't he? I'd run off and celebrate if I thought I could get away away with it.  |
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Post by werrington on May 18, 2017 8:35:21 GMT
It's cheating and should be punished accordingly Playing devils advocate and expanding all this and for those who slaughter Shaqiri, what are your feelings towards Crouch for his deliberate handball and ultimate wheeling away in celebration after ? It's all relative surely? I don't think it was deliberate was it? He completely and utterly fucked up the header didn't he? I'd run off and celebrate if I thought I could get away away with it. So would I Bayern but that's not the point I'm making to the holier than thou brigade |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 18, 2017 8:37:37 GMT
I don't think it was deliberate was it? He completely and utterly fucked up the header didn't he? I'd run off and celebrate if I thought I could get away away with it. So would I Bayern but that's not the point I'm making to the holier than thou brigade Oh I know. Do you think he meant it though? I really don't. I just think he got in such a muddle with his header that his arm came across. Or am I just being naive? |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 8:37:46 GMT
Basic rules for the panel: If he plays for one of the big clubs then he's entitled to go down for that. If he plays for any other club, it's a dive. Simple. And to expand on this, it will only last for around 4 weeks until they realise it's making the bias too obvious and quietly forget the whole thing. Pretty much like the whole dissent and holding in the box 'clampdowns' this season |
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Post by bolders on May 18, 2017 8:53:36 GMT
It will be deemed a dive and then given a ban for the likes of us and the top teams they will find a way for the top teams to get away with it
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 18, 2017 8:55:08 GMT
You've got to assume that that will happen. You can't have people not suspended for dives that the referee did see but punished for the ones that he didn't. Indeed. But that begs the question about what is the point of the panel? For the incidents that the ref doesn't spot? |
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