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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2017 7:48:55 GMT
It's more than a case of what's missing for me. I don't think Hughes nor the players have really ever got their heads right after the League Cup Semi Final penalty shoot out defeat to Liverpool.. That to me was the catalyst to the slippery slope. We had a poor end to that season and last season barring a couple of good home victories was poor on the whole as has this season. For some reason our club DNA seemed to slip away that night & has never been found or recovered. It's a pity coz that night we were on the verge of great things, a Wembley Cup Final and a league status which was healthy too. All came crashing down at that point for me. I'm trying to trust what Coates does and if he really has faith and belief in Hughes ability and decides to keep him on I'll try to be as optimistic about next season as I can be. But deep down I think Hughes bubble burst 2 seasons ago & it's best for all parties to make a fresh start. If he hadn't flogged the players to death over the Christmas period before the first leg then there is no doubt in my mind we'd have gone to Wembley.
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Post by Rick Grimes on May 17, 2017 7:54:06 GMT
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Post by scfc5 on May 17, 2017 9:27:35 GMT
I have been saying this from the day he signed. It look about 10 minutes on Google to discover Porto dumped Imbula because he couldn't play DM in the Portuguese League (whatever it's called). How the hell they missed this is beyond me (brown envelopes under the table?). Seems he is about as good as searching the internet as he is at scouting footballers. To be fair, you could also level that at Cartwright, as that must be his job first.
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Post by adamsson on May 17, 2017 9:40:25 GMT
A Plan Motivation Organisation A Plan B Hope
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Post by Theninjabadger on May 17, 2017 9:51:20 GMT
We've stopped trying to win games now and are more concerned with not losing it. The no fear fuck it we might lose but we'll have a go has been replaced with if we score first 11 men behind the ball and if we concede first it's oh fuck we're going to get another dicking here
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 17, 2017 10:31:31 GMT
You can't blame the forwards when they get feck all opportunities in front of goal. I heard people slagging Berahino off saying that's still no goals he's been here since January etc, but how many clear cut chances has he had in that time? I can think of one at home against Hull that he snatched at on the volley and those 2 headers away at Swansea the other week. Plus the blinding save from Mignolet when we played Liverpool at home. It must be so frustrating playing in our team as a striker when you make your run only to look up and see the wingers cutting back and passing sideways or backwards time after time. Diouf, Joselu, Crouch, Walters all score goals when played up front and are given chances but a certain someone has decided Diouf doesn't deserve a go up top, Joselu wasn't good enough and then there are the obvious problems with Crouch and Walters. Anyway like I said, you can't blame the strikers, you can blame the man that has managed to turn a creative system with creative players into the dross we watch today. Mark Hughes. I think your point here is spot on. The performances of our so called creative players, shaqiri in particular, is just as much a major reason for our lack of goals as the failure to replace nzonzi. I'd love to hear what our forwards really think about having to watch shaq playing his little games, passing backwards or only passing to arnie. Arnie has been falling into the trap but was better on saturday and did set up a couple of chances in the hull game. The other creative player is joe Allen, who isn't very creative so fuck knows what the thinking is there. Ronaldo would score 8 goals a season at stoke with this lot playing behind him I agree, especially with your point on Shaq. I wouldn't be overly arsed if he went this summer for the reason you mentioned. Give me a Moses or Zaha type winger any day. I think we would score more goals simply because we would create more chances.
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Post by superheroantonius on May 17, 2017 19:22:24 GMT
We aren't scoring enough goals because our style of play is easy for the opposition to defend against. Our build up play is too slow, so that the opposition don't get pulled out of position. Both Shaq & Arnie continually (& predictably ) cut inside, which makes us very narrow up front and easier to mark. The central striker (Berahino or whoever) is then swamped by defenders. By not putting in crosses from the byeline, we are not pulling defenders out of position and turning them to face their own goal. In this respect we are not doing what other teams do to us. To me, Ramadan seems to be the most "natural" wide player that we have. 100 per cent correct. Arsenal continually get the ball out wide to give there other players space to run into. Spurs do the same. Mark hughes stoke do the opposite.
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