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Post by tcks on May 14, 2017 14:43:48 GMT
Do you think, for the top six in the PL, to break away and for a European super league along with the top sides in in the rest of the European leagues. No matter how hard we try, teams like ourselves are never going to be able to compete with these teams regarding their financial clout and even if PC was willing to spend 30,40 million on a single player and pay in excess of £90,000 pw I still don't think they would sign on the dotted line for "little old Stoke".
We are what we are I suppose, a small, well run, professional football club with a small fan base compared to the majority of the teams in the PL. I know it's not going to happen any time soon, but just wondered what the rest of you thought.
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Post by sufolkstokie on May 14, 2017 14:47:27 GMT
Maybe for the fans of the below top 6 clubs, but I very much doubt their owners would agree as there would be a big drop in TV revenue monies, maybe to the point of a Scottish scale and they all want a slice of that juicy financial pie
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 14, 2017 14:49:42 GMT
I don't get why anyone would want it?
Surely you want to see your club playing against the best?
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Post by sufolkstokie on May 14, 2017 14:53:46 GMT
I don't get why anyone would want it? Surely you want to see your club playing against the best? It depends fella where this is going. It looks like at least 5 of the 6 (and probably Everton as well this time) will spend absolutely silly money again and I think it starts to look more and more like a Spanish league type situation But as I say, it wont happen because the owners of the other 14 want their slice of that financial ever growing pie |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 14, 2017 14:59:13 GMT
I don't get why anyone would want it? Surely you want to see your club playing against the best? It depends fella where this is going. It looks like at least 5 of the 6 (and probably Everton as well this time) will spend absolutely silly money again and I think it starts to look more and more like a Spanish league type situation But as I say, it wont happen because the owners of the other 14 want their slice of that financial ever growing pie But it's been like that for ages now really! In the time of my life I can remember the following clubs have won the title- Leeds, Man Yoo, Blackburn, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City and Leicester. I'd imagine the list is similar in the other big leagues with 5 or 6 clubs winning it. |
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Post by loosestools on May 14, 2017 14:59:45 GMT
I watched some great football played yesterday, and it puts our team into perspective. Yes we need to watch such football as entertainment and to justify where we are and why we are where we are. And we need a slice of the cash pie, otherwise we are tatered as at team and and a city..
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on May 14, 2017 15:04:45 GMT
Do you think, for the top six in the PL, to break away and for a European super league along with the top sides in in the rest of the European leagues. No matter how hard we try, teams like ourselves are never going to be able to compete with these teams regarding their financial clout and even if PC was willing to spend 30,40 million on a single player and pay in excess of £90,000 pw I still don't think they would sign on the dotted line for "little old Stoke". We are what we are I suppose, a small, well run, professional football club with a small fan base compared to the majority of the teams in the PL. I know it's not going to happen any time soon, but just wondered what the rest of you thought. A club of similar size to ourselves won the title last season. I see European teams with good coaching and far less resources giving the likes of man city, arse, man utd, tottenham, liverpool a far tougher time than we do. The premier league could well be a lot tighter again next season with the so called glamour clubs taking more regular beatings. |
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Post by sufolkstokie on May 14, 2017 15:05:46 GMT
It depends fella where this is going. It looks like at least 5 of the 6 (and probably Everton as well this time) will spend absolutely silly money again and I think it starts to look more and more like a Spanish league type situation But as I say, it wont happen because the owners of the other 14 want their slice of that financial ever growing pie But it's been like that for ages now really! In the time of my life I can remember the following clubs have won the title- Leeds, Man Yoo, Blackburn, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City and Leicester. I'd imagine the list is similar in the other big leagues with 5 or 6 clubs winning it. Agree. But if the trends continue the top 5 will have less and less shock results against them |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 14, 2017 15:09:24 GMT
But it's been like that for ages now really! In the time of my life I can remember the following clubs have won the title- Leeds, Man Yoo, Blackburn, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City and Leicester. I'd imagine the list is similar in the other big leagues with 5 or 6 clubs winning it. Agree. But if the trends continue the top 5 will have less and less shock results against them I'm not sure. I don't think the top clubs sides are actually that good in this country. I think the difference has been in terms of ambition to play and fitness this season. The top sides seem fitter and quicker. That's why we've done ok vs Man Yoo, who imo are slow and a bit painful. Losing Ibra could be a blessing for them. |
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Post by dwr17477 on May 14, 2017 15:12:07 GMT
Just what the gloryhunters are all praying for.
Why can't we be entitled to compete with the best in the country? What would be the point of even bothering to follow Stoke or football at all if you knew that the best we could ever be was winning a 2nd rate competiton?
It makes my blood boil to read/hear this type of comment.
Ok, we didn't beat any of the 'big boys' but if this was to happen, we'd never have the chance again!
Maybe Leicester winning last year was a blip but, again, that blip could never happen again if this nonsense came to fruition.
As I said, it's a gloryhunters dream to see this...why the hell would we want that to happen.
Crazy, just crazy, to even suggest it.
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Post by professorplump on May 14, 2017 15:33:21 GMT
A European Super League has been talked about for ages but I doubt it will ever happen. What I think is more likely is that the big six will try to negotiate the next TV deal so that they get the lions share of the money. They could use the threat to break away as leverage against the other 14 clubs.
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Post by rawli on May 14, 2017 15:35:01 GMT
Do you think, for the top six in the PL, to break away and for a European super league along with the top sides in in the rest of the European leagues. No matter how hard we try, teams like ourselves are never going to be able to compete with these teams regarding their financial clout and even if PC was willing to spend 30,40 million on a single player and pay in excess of £90,000 pw I still don't think they would sign on the dotted line for "little old Stoke". We are what we are I suppose, a small, well run, professional football club with a small fan base compared to the majority of the teams in the PL. I know it's not going to happen any time soon, but just wondered what the rest of you thought. A club of similar size to ourselves won the title last season. I see European teams with good coaching and far less resources giving the likes of man city, arse, man utd, tottenham, liverpool a far tougher time than we do. The premier league could well be a lot tighter again next season with the so called glamour clubs taking more regular beatings. Using foreign coaches which apparently we won't consider. |
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Post by sufolkstokie on May 14, 2017 15:44:23 GMT
Agree. But if the trends continue the top 5 will have less and less shock results against them I'm not sure. I don't think the top clubs sides are actually that good in this country. I think the difference has been in terms of ambition to play and fitness this season. The top sides seem fitter and quicker. That's why we've done ok vs Man Yoo, who imo are slow and a bit painful. Losing Ibra could be a blessing for them. Agree - Spuds, Chelsea are the ones with real pace. Man City can turn it on and also play walking football and Liverpool are either wow or no clue how to break teams down |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 14, 2017 15:51:34 GMT
I'm not sure. I don't think the top clubs sides are actually that good in this country. I think the difference has been in terms of ambition to play and fitness this season. The top sides seem fitter and quicker. That's why we've done ok vs Man Yoo, who imo are slow and a bit painful. Losing Ibra could be a blessing for them. Agree - Spuds, Chelsea are the ones with real pace. Man City can turn it on and also play walking football and Liverpool are either wow or no clue how to break teams down And Liverpool have had loads of fitness issues too. He can't keep half of their best players fit. But then again I think they're a bit crap too. Coutinho and Firmino are class but past that they're average. |
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Post by wembley4372 on May 14, 2017 16:00:28 GMT
What it's long overdue for is to cap the spending at a level that is closer for all teams to compete with. It could spread some higher paid players around the teams and make the whole thing more competitive.
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Post by tcks on May 14, 2017 16:54:51 GMT
Just what the gloryhunters are all praying for. Why can't we be entitled to compete with the be I think you have t in the country? What would be the point of even bothering to follow Stoke or football at all if you knew that thequationt we could ever be was winning a 2nd rate competiton? It makes my blood boil to read/hear this type of comment. Ok, we didn't beat any of the 'big boys' but if this was to happen, we'd never have the chance again! Maybe Leicester winning last year was a blip but, again, that blip could never happen again if this nonsense came to fruition. As I said, it's a gloryhunters dream to see this...why the hell would we want that to happen. Crazy, just crazy, to even suggest it. Could you tell me your definition of the word compete? If you think we have competed against any of the top teams in the last 18 months then I think you must of been watching different games to me. Your comment about bothering to support Stoke, shouldnt even come in to the equation. A true supporter would support the team through thick and thin, something i have done for the past 56 years and something i will be bothering to do till the day i die. |
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Post by WhyDelilah on May 14, 2017 16:56:16 GMT
I don't get why anyone would want it? Surely you want to see your club playing against the best? It would have been nice if we played against the best this season. |
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Post by borat on May 14, 2017 16:59:01 GMT
The only reason I would like to see a Euro super league is to see Arsenal finish bottom! But apart from that no!
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on May 14, 2017 17:15:07 GMT
The fact is the middle teams in this league are pretty mediocre and the the top 6 seeming so far away from 'us' but struggling in Europe, indicates how mediocre the Premier League is in reality. Ask yourself how many (non Stoke, ok include Stoke it's not going to increase the number!  ) Premiershit games have you actually enjoyed this year? Watching the Champions League gives me no appetite for a European Super League in fact, other than Stoke, I don't watch half the football I used to.  Introducing a salary cap won't mean the better players coming to teams like us, they'll stay at the top teams in Europe. How many of the best players in the world actually play in the Premiershit now?  I'm really looking forward to the Europa League final.......  |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on May 14, 2017 17:25:55 GMT
I really don't see the logic in dragging down the quality of the Prem and making it much worse purely so we're in with a chance of winning it.
That would be a sickeningly pathetic attitude for anyone else to have in any other walk of life.
If we did win it, it would be hardly worth winning it if it was just against crap clubs; may as well just get ourselves relegated and win the Championship as do that. Like being proud of being the tallest dwarf.
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Post by Naughtyfarty on May 14, 2017 17:52:38 GMT
Its a very interesting question of which I dont have an answer
However, it would be very interesting if the money boys went, ie Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Livepool and Spurs.Ok it would of coarse seem like a lesser league at first, but it might be quite good. Let them go, the premiership might have the competiveness of the championship, and the big six teams will be in some place they dont want to be.
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Post by leicspotter on May 14, 2017 20:25:29 GMT
Do you think, for the top six in the PL, to break away and for a European super league along with the top sides in in the rest of the European leagues. No matter how hard we try, teams like ourselves are never going to be able to compete with these teams regarding their financial clout and even if PC was willing to spend 30,40 million on a single player and pay in excess of £90,000 pw I still don't think they would sign on the dotted line for "little old Stoke". We are what we are I suppose, a small, well run, professional football club with a small fan base compared to the majority of the teams in the PL. I know it's not going to happen any time soon, but just wondered what the rest of you thought. Did you sleep through last season? |
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) Premiershit games have you actually enjoyed this year? Watching the Champions League gives me no appetite for a European Super League in fact, other than Stoke, I don't watch half the football I used to. 
