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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 21:21:52 GMT
Detained under the Mental Health Act after fears for his safety. Get well soon Aaron mental illness is so cruel....
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 2, 2017 21:26:44 GMT
Detained under the Mental Health Act after fears for his safety. Get well soon Aaron mental illness is so cruel.... Yes it is. It can affect anyone at any time and my heart goes out to anyone in turmoil. Best wishes to the guy.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 21:28:21 GMT
Detained under the Mental Health Act after fears for his safety. Get well soon Aaron mental illness is so cruel.... Yes it is. It can affect anyone at any time and my heart goes out to anyone in turmoil. Best wishes to the guy. I can't do the link from my phone but the article suggested he'd been found in a notorious spot on the side of the M602 in Salford in his club tracksuit recently. Just hope he can get the help he needs....
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Post by JoeinOz on May 2, 2017 21:29:52 GMT
Hopefully he can get the support he needs.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 2, 2017 21:31:30 GMT
Get well soon young man loads of great things lie ahead when your ready .
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Post by nottspotter on May 2, 2017 21:32:59 GMT
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Post by djduncanjames on May 2, 2017 21:34:02 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 21:35:38 GMT
Good luck lad!
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Post by borat on May 2, 2017 21:46:34 GMT
I thought this was a wind up at first. This has surpised me as usually if someone has " mental health issues" its noticed from quite a young age and I dont think anything has ever been mentioned before on Aaron (unless i missed it).
Speaking as someone who suffers from awful depression (19 years now sadly) i hope he gets help but i wouldn't count my chickens as the mental health services in this country is wanker than wank. Ive tried everything (including the use of class A drugs for a while) from doctors to councillor's to psychitrists, prison, suicide attempts. Ive just accepted ive got do it alone, nobody can make me better with words, it just aint happening but im ok at the minute ( thank fuck).
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 2, 2017 21:54:36 GMT
Get well soon young man loads of great things lie ahead when your ready . Well said, Benji.
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 2, 2017 21:56:23 GMT
Bloody hell wasn't expecting that.. get well soon Aaron.
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 2, 2017 21:57:25 GMT
I thought this was a wind up at first. This has surpised me as usually if someone has " mental health issues" its noticed from quite a young age and I dont think anything has ever been mentioned before on Aaron (unless i missed it). Speaking as someone who suffers from awful depression (19 years now sadly) i hope he gets help but i wouldn't count my chickens as the mental health services in this country is wanker than wank. Ive tried everything (including the use of class A drugs for a while) from doctors to councillor's to psychitrists, prison, suicide attempts. Ive just accepted ive got do it alone, nobody can make me better with words, it just aint happening but im ok at the minute ( thank fuck). Good luck mate, been teetering for years, myself and it ain't easy.
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Post by Glory Hunter on May 2, 2017 22:39:44 GMT
Wouldn't wish this on anyone. Best wishes to him.
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Post by Gifton on May 2, 2017 23:36:47 GMT
Get well soon young man loads of great things lie ahead when your ready . I know I've slated you recently but hear hear. Well said benj
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Post by Gifton on May 2, 2017 23:46:37 GMT
So pleased to see all positive messages here. As Borat pointed out, the system is a mess but there can be no doubt public perception is changing regarding mental health.
If there is one positive to Aaron Lennon's plight it is that it serves to prove anyone can be affected. When I've suffered with depression, the one thing that winds me up more than anything is people saying "what have you got to be depressed about?"
Thoughts are with you Aaron, as they are with you Borat mate.
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Post by retired1 on May 2, 2017 23:54:55 GMT
His detention under S136 would last for the time it takes for him to be assessed by a mental health professional as it's only an assessemnt section that only the police can use to take someone to a place of safety such as a psychiatric hospital/unit. They might decide he is no longer a risk to himself and he would be allowed home but they would/should make sure there is someone who can be there for him at home. If he is allowed home then some psychiatric support may be required and planned for. It may be that everton could pay for support just as they might for physical injuries. If he is still a risk there is a fair chance he could be detained for longer on a different section of the mental health act either for further assessment or for treatment. I would imagine one of the Priory hosptals/clinics would have him if that happened and not just one of the local NHS units. Sad that he reached the point where he may well have been considering ending his life, or it might have been the "cry for help" he needed to make. Good luck to him.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 0:03:04 GMT
The fucking Daily Mail, 'his family has appealed for privacy at this time.’ so let's write an article.
Hopefully something good comes of this though and he sees a positive response to his situation, one that's all too common and gut wrenchingly sad.
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Post by claytonscrubs on May 3, 2017 0:26:51 GMT
Get well soon young man loads of great things lie ahead when your ready . At last Benji a post I can give you a like 👍 My older brother has suffered from bouts of depression, so it's a subject close to my heart...
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on May 3, 2017 0:42:39 GMT
Mental health doesn't discriminate, it doesn't care how old you are, how much you earn or what colour skin you have. It's utterly dreadful and I hope Aaron gets all the help he needs, and is back on the pitch with the full support of the football family whenever he is ready.
It's time mental illness in this country was taken more seriously, current NHS provisions are nothing short of a joke, and a tonne of investment is required, with increasing pressures we're going to have an ever larger epidemic within the next 20 years.
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Post by Northy on May 3, 2017 6:01:56 GMT
I thought this was a wind up at first. This has surpised me as usually if someone has " mental health issues" its noticed from quite a young age and I dont think anything has ever been mentioned before on Aaron (unless i missed it). Speaking as someone who suffers from awful depression (19 years now sadly) i hope he gets help but i wouldn't count my chickens as the mental health services in this country is wanker than wank. Ive tried everything (including the use of class A drugs for a while) from doctors to councillor's to psychitrists, prison, suicide attempts. Ive just accepted ive got do it alone, nobody can make me better with words, it just aint happening but im ok at the minute ( thank fuck). have you tried running? ive read a few articles how running has helped people along to better health, physocal and mental
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Post by homer32 on May 3, 2017 6:39:39 GMT
My initial reaction to this was why nobody at Everton had noticed his change in behaviour? Surely somebody must have noticed his decline, he couldn't have been behaving normally.People can hide their mental health issues very well but at a massive club like Everton you would have thought these issues had people to recognize them in their players and staff.
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Post by stokebloke on May 3, 2017 6:44:01 GMT
Terrible illness..all the best Aaron.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 8:59:39 GMT
I thought this was a wind up at first. This has surpised me as usually if someone has " mental health issues" its noticed from quite a young age and I dont think anything has ever been mentioned before on Aaron (unless i missed it). Speaking as someone who suffers from awful depression (19 years now sadly) i hope he gets help but i wouldn't count my chickens as the mental health services in this country is wanker than wank. Ive tried everything (including the use of class A drugs for a while) from doctors to councillor's to psychitrists, prison, suicide attempts. Ive just accepted ive got do it alone, nobody can make me better with words, it just aint happening but im ok at the minute ( thank fuck). have you tried running? ive read a few articles how running has helped people along to better health, physocal and mental It'll bugger your knees though, I'd swim or cycle, the latter can be a good way of socialising especially.
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Post by toppercorner on May 3, 2017 9:14:18 GMT
I thought this was a wind up at first. This has surpised me as usually if someone has " mental health issues" its noticed from quite a young age and I dont think anything has ever been mentioned before on Aaron (unless i missed it). Speaking as someone who suffers from awful depression (19 years now sadly) i hope he gets help but i wouldn't count my chickens as the mental health services in this country is wanker than wank. Ive tried everything (including the use of class A drugs for a while) from doctors to councillor's to psychitrists, prison, suicide attempts. Ive just accepted ive got do it alone, nobody can make me better with words, it just aint happening but im ok at the minute ( thank fuck). i've suffered from depression too, almost tot he extent of what you have written above from the legs buckling, the tunnel vision and a sensation in your head when your ears feel like you have tinnitus it can come on for no reason at all, and i understand that family and friends want to help but can't. i've found that my radically altering my diet has helped keep it at arms length. Cut out the sugar, the bad fats, unnecessary boozing and do get involved with exercise and lots of vitamin d and fresh air. It won't stop it, nothing will, and we know that, but we can help ourselves to a degree. The amount of shite that is put into our food these days is frightening so it simply has to go. Music instead of TV, books instead of facebook etc. You'll notice the difference its such a huge worldwide problem in adult males, i simply don't know why more resources aren't put into it to help those who really suffer stay strong and keep the faith
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Post by nottinghamstokie on May 3, 2017 9:19:07 GMT
My initial reaction to this was why nobody at Everton had noticed his change in behaviour? Surely somebody must have noticed his decline, he couldn't have been behaving normally.People can hide their mental health issues very well but at a massive club like Everton you would have thought these issues had people to recognize them in their players and staff. Given he hasn't played since February.....maybe they had noticed, and that is why he hasn't played ?? I too am very pleased ( and relieved )at the 100% positive messages on here - when I heard it on the news my first thought was "I just hope there are no stupid MB messages about "serves him right for not signing for us"" or similar types of "only meant as a joke" comment. As a former Mental Health nurse I can only echo the good wishes and sentiments toward the lad, not an easy thing to get over.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 9:21:05 GMT
I thought this was a wind up at first. This has surpised me as usually if someone has " mental health issues" its noticed from quite a young age and I dont think anything has ever been mentioned before on Aaron (unless i missed it). Speaking as someone who suffers from awful depression (19 years now sadly) i hope he gets help but i wouldn't count my chickens as the mental health services in this country is wanker than wank. Ive tried everything (including the use of class A drugs for a while) from doctors to councillor's to psychitrists, prison, suicide attempts. Ive just accepted ive got do it alone, nobody can make me better with words, it just aint happening but im ok at the minute ( thank fuck). Good luck mate, been teetering for years, myself and it ain't easy. Get Well soon Aaron. Borat sorry to hear of your predicament bro. I was ok until my mid twenties. I believe the trigger to be my divorce and not being allowed to see my daughter despite paying CSA and having an access order. I now suffer good spells and bad spells.Winter esp January is dreadful but i am lucky to have the most amazing understanding patient well rounded wife now. Also my family understand me more now and know that my Versuvius monents are not the real me but i am very very lucky. Others are not. Its great Wills Harry and Kate are doing their bit & Politics aside Alaistair Cambell is a marvellous ambassador as well. The Government need to put more into this though. We have all our techy things annd comforts but modern life is so stressful and demanding this issue will only get worse if they do not If you Borat or any one wishes to discuss my issues or experiences please pm me and i will glady give you my contact details
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Post by crownmeking on May 3, 2017 9:23:01 GMT
This is a reason I love this board, and Stoke people in general. We can all argue and get shitty about football, but when it comes to serious matters like mental health, we stick together.
Get well soon Aaron.
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Post by adbrightonstokie on May 3, 2017 10:13:34 GMT
I thought this was a wind up at first. This has surpised me as usually if someone has " mental health issues" its noticed from quite a young age and I dont think anything has ever been mentioned before on Aaron (unless i missed it). Speaking as someone who suffers from awful depression (19 years now sadly) i hope he gets help but i wouldn't count my chickens as the mental health services in this country is wanker than wank. Ive tried everything (including the use of class A drugs for a while) from doctors to councillor's to psychitrists, prison, suicide attempts. Ive just accepted ive got do it alone, nobody can make me better with words, it just aint happening but im ok at the minute ( thank fuck). i've suffered from depression too, almost tot he extent of what you have written above from the legs buckling, the tunnel vision and a sensation in your head when your ears feel like you have tinnitus it can come on for no reason at all, and i understand that family and friends want to help but can't. i've found that my radically altering my diet has helped keep it at arms length. Cut out the sugar, the bad fats, unnecessary boozing and do get involved with exercise and lots of vitamin d and fresh air. It won't stop it, nothing will, and we know that, but we can help ourselves to a degree. The amount of shite that is put into our food these days is frightening so it simply has to go. Music instead of TV, books instead of facebook etc. You'll notice the difference its such a huge worldwide problem in adult males, i simply don't know why more resources aren't put into it to help those who really suffer stay strong and keep the faith Couldn't agree more with all of this, and echo the sentiments regarding running or exercise in general, it can make a lot of difference to your overall mental state and outlook.
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Post by Northy on May 3, 2017 10:24:03 GMT
have you tried running? ive read a few articles how running has helped people along to better health, physocal and mental It'll bugger your knees though, I'd swim or cycle, the latter can be a good way of socialising especially. no it doesnt, its a myth, just make sure you get good fitting trainers. I was away for that documentary the other week on the people with mental health issues running the london marathon so dont know the summary, but i believe it was all good
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 10:42:52 GMT
It'll bugger your knees though, I'd swim or cycle, the latter can be a good way of socialising especially. no it doesnt, its a myth, just make sure you get good fitting trainers. I was away for that documentary the other week on the people with mental health issues running the london marathon so dont know the summary, but i believe it was all good www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/22/marathon-men-suicidal-man-will-run-alongside-stranger-talked/Couldn't be more relevant, heartwarming stuff. As for running being bad for your knees it's definitely not to be disregarded as a myth, some running is obviously beneficial because doing exercise in any capacity helps to stave off arthritis. But over doing it, especially on hard surfaces will increase your chances. "Over time, the meniscal cartilage can wear down and lose its sponginess, and thus not absorb as much shock. The bones then pound on each other harder, and from that friction, arthritis develops and worsens." I know a few people who were big runners in their days and they can barely get up the stairs without wincing now. Sure it's not the case for all but it is what I learnt studying P.E. at school. Regardless of how bad it is neither swimming nor cycling come with any of that risk and they're much easier to get into and do for extended periods of time. For the record I have nothing against runners, personally when it comes to cardio rowing is my jam. I just think if you're going to get into something running is a hard choice that lends itself less to the social side if that's what you're looking for. I got carried away.
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