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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 15:04:59 GMT
It's hard to argue with what they're saying tbh and it's about time the media realised what's going off at our club.To not be mathematically safe with 3 games to go is just unacceptable with the squad at our disposal. Along with 11 other clubs who are also not mathematically safe I might add...... I'm sure you don't but the top sides have been that dominant this seasons seems like everyone else is stuttering as well......
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 15:11:33 GMT
smiley face, see i told you so on my earlier thread, beggars belief, trying to get your name in lights because u want us to think you are right What's he said on the Joe Allen thread that isn't painfully accurate? You're having a pop at folk having a pop at Charlie Adam, yet you're having a pop at the bloke who has been comfortably our most consistent performer in the central midfield area. I like Charlie and always fought his cause on here when hecwas regularly slated, but he has been woeful when he's played this season and offered absolutely nothing unfortunately.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 2, 2017 15:17:57 GMT
What's he said on the Joe Allen thread that isn't painfully accurate? You're having a pop at folk having a pop at Charlie Adam, yet you're having a pop at the bloke who has been comfortably our most consistent performer in the central midfield area. I like Charlie and always fought his cause on here when hecwas regularly slated, but he has been woeful when he's played this season and offered absolutely nothing unfortunately. Who bought Geoff Cameron into this? At the end of the day I think all of them are pretty shit tbh.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 2, 2017 15:20:00 GMT
What's he said on the Joe Allen thread that isn't painfully accurate? You're having a pop at folk having a pop at Charlie Adam, yet you're having a pop at the bloke who has been comfortably our most consistent performer in the central midfield area. I like Charlie and always fought his cause on here when hecwas regularly slated, but he has been woeful when he's played this season and offered absolutely nothing unfortunately. I'm not out right having a go at Allen, I'm simply perplexed at why Adam's name continues to get a mention when he's played less than a total of 90 minutes in our last four abysmal games, yet our second most expensive player ever has been rotten for large parts of the last 6 months and gets away with absolute murder. Then again it's ALWAYS been the same with Stoke fans.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 15:34:27 GMT
You're having a pop at folk having a pop at Charlie Adam, yet you're having a pop at the bloke who has been comfortably our most consistent performer in the central midfield area. I like Charlie and always fought his cause on here when hecwas regularly slated, but he has been woeful when he's played this season and offered absolutely nothing unfortunately. I'm not out right having a go at Allen, I'm simply perplexed at why Adam's name continues to get a mention when he's played less than a total of 90 minutes in our last four abysmal games, yet our second most expensive player ever has been rotten for large parts of the last 6 months and gets away with absolute murder. then again it's ALWAYS been trhe same with Stoke fans. What's ALWAYS been the same mate? It's probably got something to do with the fact that Allen, as poor as he might have been in some games, has actually made a very valuable contribution during our most successful period this season so people remember that and defend him when he's being described as a "nothing player" or "he's wank", which to be honest is absolute bollocks of the highest order. Charlie has offered nowt in his,as you say,brief cameos so it's hardly surprising that his name is cropping up and hardly surprising that fans believe he isn't quite up to it in this league anymore.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 15:35:11 GMT
You're having a pop at folk having a pop at Charlie Adam, yet you're having a pop at the bloke who has been comfortably our most consistent performer in the central midfield area. I like Charlie and always fought his cause on here when hecwas regularly slated, but he has been woeful when he's played this season and offered absolutely nothing unfortunately. Who bought Geoff Cameron into this? At the end of the day I think all of them are pretty shit tbh. You think everyone is shit though so it's hardly surprising really.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 2, 2017 15:43:48 GMT
I'm not out right having a go at Allen, I'm simply perplexed at why Adam's name continues to get a mention when he's played less than a total of 90 minutes in our last four abysmal games, yet our second most expensive player ever has been rotten for large parts of the last 6 months and gets away with absolute murder. then again it's ALWAYS been trhe same with Stoke fans. What's ALWAYS been the same mate? It's probably got something to do with the fact that Allen, as poor as he might have been in some games, has actually made a very valuable contribution during our most successful period this season so people remember that and defend him when he's being described as a "nothing player" or "he's wank", which to be honest is absolute bollocks of the highest order. Charlie has offered nowt in his,as you say,brief cameos so it's hardly surprising that his name is cropping up and hardly surprising that fans believe he isn't quite up to it in this league anymore. It's always been boo boys and untouchables with large swathes of Stoke fans. Charlie still has the second most assists (more than Joe Allen) this season from far more limited opportunities. I'm not suggesting Adam is the answer to any question but our midfield has been abysmal all season and some players get away with murder and I think Allen, is probably the main one. He's been abysmal for months.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 15:47:57 GMT
What's ALWAYS been the same mate? It's probably got something to do with the fact that Allen, as poor as he might have been in some games, has actually made a very valuable contribution during our most successful period this season so people remember that and defend him when he's being described as a "nothing player" or "he's wank", which to be honest is absolute bollocks of the highest order. Charlie has offered nowt in his,as you say,brief cameos so it's hardly surprising that his name is cropping up and hardly surprising that fans believe he isn't quite up to it in this league anymore. It's always been boo boys and untouchables with large swathes of Stoke fans. Charlie still has the second most assists (more than Joe Allen) this season from far more limited opportunities. I'm not suggesting Adam is the answer to any question but our midfield has been abysmal all season and some players get away with murder and I think Allen, is probably the main one. He's been abysmal for months. I'd wager that we (Stoke fans) are absolutely no different to any group of football fans all over the country, as in everybody has their favourite players and players they don't rate. We aren't the only fans in the country who have their boo boys and to be honest I think our players pretty much always get a chance with the crowd at matches.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 2, 2017 16:58:31 GMT
Who bought Geoff Cameron into this? At the end of the day I think all of them are pretty shit tbh. You think everyone is shit though so it's hardly surprising really. Not at all. But we have a Championship standard midfield. If we could get rid of them all and start again we should.
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Post by djduncanjames on May 2, 2017 17:16:31 GMT
You think everyone is shit though so it's hardly surprising really. Not at all. But we have a Championship standard midfield. If we could get rid of them all and start again we should. Would you take Bojan back?
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 2, 2017 18:40:25 GMT
A lot of the reason,s we have not achieved expectation, is mainly because of Mark Hughes and his bonkers substitutions. I was a big fan of Mr. Hughes, but I am fast becoming fed up of him and his style of play. I genuinely though that we would blow a point on Saturday when he brought Charlie on, and we nearly did with his first touch of the ball. I was also quite a fan of Charlie's, but for me now, he needs to drop a division. So he needs to drop a decision because of one ball control lol lol. No because he isn't quite the player he was a few seasons ago, and even then he wasn't that good.
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Post by adi on May 2, 2017 22:20:50 GMT
Adi, I concur, but IMHO, he is a liability nowadays. We just need better in midfield. I agree! I just wish people would consider what they write rather than post what effectively constitutes a falsity. Yes he's too slow. Yes he's too reckless but he IS an exceptional passer of the ball at times. To say he isn't just simply isn't true. That ball to arnie proved that. That pass was top 4. Whilst I admit he's lacking virtually everywhere else (not including commitment) he does have some strengths that sadly some are denying him.
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Post by Glory Hunter on May 2, 2017 22:50:06 GMT
Adi, I concur, but IMHO, he is a liability nowadays. We just need better in midfield. I agree! I just wish people would consider what they write rather than post what effectively constitutes a falsity. Yes he's too slow. Yes he's too reckless but he IS an exceptional passer of the ball at times. To say he isn't just simply isn't true. That ball to arnie proved that. That pass was top 4. Whilst I admit he's lacking virtually everywhere else (not including commitment) he does have some strengths that sadly some are denying him. Spot on, some of the stuff about him is pure rubbish. He is top class. I suggest we appreciate him.
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