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Post by trickydicky73 on May 1, 2017 17:14:38 GMT
I know Durham's a twat, but he's made some good points on them both. West Brom on the beach, us extending Crouch's contract etc.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 1, 2017 17:25:44 GMT
It's hard to argue with what they're saying tbh and it's about time the media realised what's going off at our club.To not be mathematically safe with 3 games to go is just unacceptable with the squad at our disposal.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on May 1, 2017 17:33:56 GMT
Extending Crouch's contract is something that's never really bothered me, I was never either "FOR" or "AGAINST" it.....Peter can still be a handful, But if he's looking for more game time, he's probably best dropping down a league now!!! However....extending Johnson's contract is nothing more than ludicrous....and I'm amazed Coates has even considered it never mind allowed it!!! Same goes for Walters with that two year extention!!!
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Post by jarvinski on May 1, 2017 17:38:13 GMT
Hear hear, all perfectly true, that is why he has to go
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 17:47:31 GMT
I tuned in after reading this thread for a laugh. First thing I heard was Durham: "When will we hear the manager of a club like Stoke say that it is about something other than 40 points and survival every year" (or close words to that effect - apologies to Mr Durham if i've heard it or interpreted it incorrectly)* Hughes has said it every year since he's been here. He should try a bit of research every now and then. Edit: talksport.com/radio/listen-again/1493650800Click the link, click on 1800-1830 and it starts from roughly 3 minutes before the end of the section. *A little bit different to what I thought I heard at the time, so apologies for the incorrect quote above. The general concensus of his point is still wrong though. Hughes has always spoke about it being more than 40 points, wanting to consistently finish in the top half and possibly have a shot at Europe. He's also gone on record this year expressing his disappointment and saying that we have fell below our expectations.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 19:32:09 GMT
A lot of the reason,s we have not achieved expectation, is mainly because of Mark Hughes and his bonkers substitutions. I was a big fan of Mr. Hughes, but I am fast becoming fed up of him and his style of play. I genuinely though that we would blow a point on Saturday when he brought Charlie on, and we nearly did with his first touch of the ball. I was also quite a fan of Charlie's, but for me now, he needs to drop a division.
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Post by adi on May 2, 2017 0:25:35 GMT
A lot of the reason,s we have not achieved expectation, is mainly because of Mark Hughes and his bonkers substitutions. I was a big fan of Mr. Hughes, but I am fast becoming fed up of him and his style of play. I genuinely though that we would blow a point on Saturday when he brought Charlie on, and we nearly did with his first touch of the ball. I was also quite a fan of Charlie's, but for me now, he needs to drop a division. In Charlie's defence wasn't it he who played that slide rule pass to shaq or arnie? Can't remember who it was to but it was an excellent ball.
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Post by hanibal7 on May 2, 2017 0:40:39 GMT
Extending Crouch's contract is something that's never really bothered me, I was never either "FOR" or "AGAINST" it.....Peter can still be a handful, But if he's looking for more game time, he's probably best dropping down a league now!!! However....extending Johnson's contract is nothing more than ludicrous....and I'm amazed Coates has even considered it never mind allowed it!!! Same goes for Walters with that two year extention!!! Just maybe Coates has actualy told Hughes what funds he has next season, and he has to keep these type of players.All you silly boys on here want 5 youth players in the team, so heyyyyy, bring it on, lets see where youth takes us next season. Blames Hughes for not playing young kiddies, blames hughes for playing young kiddies, truly unbelievable. Dont get me wrong the numbnuts of man poo, are the same, blame managem,ent for the injuries, blame the management for not spoending another 200 million on players etc etc, the supporter of today is beyond me.
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Post by hanibal7 on May 2, 2017 0:50:39 GMT
A lot of the reason,s we have not achieved expectation, is mainly because of Mark Hughes and his bonkers substitutions. I was a big fan of Mr. Hughes, but I am fast becoming fed up of him and his style of play. I genuinely though that we would blow a point on Saturday when he brought Charlie on, and we nearly did with his first touch of the ball. I was also quite a fan of Charlie's, but for me now, he needs to drop a division. So he needs to drop a decision because of one ball control lol lol.
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Post by followyoudown on May 2, 2017 6:50:26 GMT
A lot of the reason,s we have not achieved expectation, is mainly because of Mark Hughes and his bonkers substitutions. I was a big fan of Mr. Hughes, but I am fast becoming fed up of him and his style of play. I genuinely though that we would blow a point on Saturday when he brought Charlie on, and we nearly did with his first touch of the ball. I was also quite a fan of Charlie's, but for me now, he needs to drop a division. In Charlie's defence wasn't it he who played that slide rule pass to shaq or arnie? Can't remember who it was to but it was an excellent ball. Yes it was and with his first touch he put Arnie through from my memory but he couldn't beat his man. He's not the long term answer but I'm happy for him to be a squad player.
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 2, 2017 6:58:17 GMT
Extending Crouch's contract is something that's never really bothered me, I was never either "FOR" or "AGAINST" it.....Peter can still be a handful, But if he's looking for more game time, he's probably best dropping down a league now!!! However....extending Johnson's contract is nothing more than ludicrous....and I'm amazed Coates has even considered it never mind allowed it!!! Same goes for Walters with that two year extention!!! Just maybe Coates has actualy told Hughes what funds he has next season, and he has to keep these type of players.All you silly boys on here want 5 youth players in the team, so heyyyyy, bring it on, lets see where youth takes us next season. Blames Hughes for not playing young kiddies, blames hughes for playing young kiddies, truly unbelievable. Dont get me wrong the numbnuts of man poo, are the same, blame managem,ent for the injuries, blame the management for not spoending another 200 million on players etc etc, the supporter of today is beyond me. I think the answers somewhere in the middle. One things for sure this has been a very worrying season and changes have to be made and the age of the side particularly the engine room needs to be lowered.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 7:04:05 GMT
A lot of the reason,s we have not achieved expectation, is mainly because of Mark Hughes and his bonkers substitutions. I was a big fan of Mr. Hughes, but I am fast becoming fed up of him and his style of play. I genuinely though that we would blow a point on Saturday when he brought Charlie on, and we nearly did with his first touch of the ball. I was also quite a fan of Charlie's, but for me now, he needs to drop a division. So he needs to drop a decision because of one ball control lol lol. No. He's not good enough because he's miles off the pace, isn't a particularly good passer, and his set-pieces these days are pure bilge. If he's anywhere near the starting XI next year, it's going to be a long old season...
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 8:07:12 GMT
It's hard to argue with what they're saying tbh and it's about time the media realised what's going off at our club.To not be mathematically safe with 3 games to go is just unacceptable with the squad at our disposal. Along with 11 other clubs who are also not mathematically safe I might add......
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 8:11:18 GMT
A lot of the reason,s we have not achieved expectation, is mainly because of Mark Hughes and his bonkers substitutions. I was a big fan of Mr. Hughes, but I am fast becoming fed up of him and his style of play. I genuinely though that we would blow a point on Saturday when he brought Charlie on, and we nearly did with his first touch of the ball. I was also quite a fan of Charlie's, but for me now, he needs to drop a division. Another reason Hughes has fallen short of expectation is because thanks to him the bar has been well and truly risen risen. Came in, never mentioned 40 points, talked us up constantly. If he'd "managed expecatations" like other managers do I think he'd be getting a far easier ride. But he's not daft and I'm sure he knows that.....
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Post by Glory Hunter on May 2, 2017 8:13:53 GMT
There is quite a difference between mate actual safety and actual safety. We are totally and utterly safe. Job done. Now we should relax and perform like we know we can. Three wins please Hughesy!
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 2, 2017 8:58:00 GMT
In this latest dreadful run Charlie has been now worse than the rest of our rancid midfield including glory boy Joe Allen.
It's absurd that he gets a special mention whilst others continue to get away with absolute murder.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 9:41:00 GMT
Adi, I concur, but IMHO, he is a liability nowadays. We just need better in midfield.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 2, 2017 9:47:29 GMT
Adi, I concur, but IMHO, he is a liability nowadays. We just need better in midfield. When are people going to start being brutally honest about our other midfielders. The extraordinarily average Joe Allen cost 13 million fucking quid for instance. THIRTEEN MILLION FUCKING POUNDS!
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 2, 2017 9:54:11 GMT
Adi, I concur, but IMHO, he is a liability nowadays. We just need better in midfield. When are people going to start being brutally honest about our other midfielders. The extraordinarily average Joe Allen cost 13 million fucking quid for instance. THIRTEEN MILLION FUCKING POUNDS! Please see the "Joe Allen" thread.
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Post by followyoudown on May 2, 2017 9:54:24 GMT
Extending Crouch's contract is something that's never really bothered me, I was never either "FOR" or "AGAINST" it.....Peter can still be a handful, But if he's looking for more game time, he's probably best dropping down a league now!!! However....extending Johnson's contract is nothing more than ludicrous....and I'm amazed Coates has even considered it never mind allowed it!!! Same goes for Walters with that two year extention!!! Actually I hope the logic for the Johnson extension is to loan out Tom Edwards for 6 months or the season and then to bring him into the squad / team.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on May 2, 2017 9:57:35 GMT
Extending Crouch's contract is something that's never really bothered me, I was never either "FOR" or "AGAINST" it.....Peter can still be a handful, But if he's looking for more game time, he's probably best dropping down a league now!!! However....extending Johnson's contract is nothing more than ludicrous....and I'm amazed Coates has even considered it never mind allowed it!!! Same goes for Walters with that two year extention!!! Just maybe Coates has actualy told Hughes what funds he has next season, and he has to keep these type of players.All you silly boys on here want 5 youth players in the team, so heyyyyy, bring it on, lets see where youth takes us next season. Blames Hughes for not playing young kiddies, blames hughes for playing young kiddies, truly unbelievable. Dont get me wrong the numbnuts of man poo, are the same, blame managem,ent for the injuries, blame the management for not spoending another 200 million on players etc etc, the supporter of today is beyond me. Who the fuck has rattled your fuckin cage dick.....don't come on here insulting people who haven't even said anything about youth....just to get a little irritation off your chest!!! Personally I'd prefer Bardsley to Johnson, that ain't bringing youth in!!! So you think it's fine to keep extending aging players contracts, I doubt even Coates would think like that, he'd be very foolish to do so and expect to stay in the premier league!!!
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 2, 2017 10:02:59 GMT
When are people going to start being brutally honest about our other midfielders. The extraordinarily average Joe Allen cost 13 million fucking quid for instance. THIRTEEN MILLION FUCKING POUNDS! Please see the "Joe Allen" thread. Ahh I'd missed that. In this set up he is desperately poor isn't he.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 2, 2017 10:12:32 GMT
It's hard to argue with what they're saying tbh and it's about time the media realised what's going off at our club.To not be mathematically safe with 3 games to go is just unacceptable with the squad at our disposal. Along with 11 other clubs who are also not mathematically safe I might add...... Thats very true but I couldn't give a flying fuck about them
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 2, 2017 10:13:24 GMT
Please see the "Joe Allen" thread. Ahh I'd missed that. In this set up he is desperately poor isn't he. He really is. I've never liked him but he's never been this badly disciplined positionally when I've seen him play before.
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Post by hanibal7 on May 2, 2017 10:30:12 GMT
Just maybe Coates has actualy told Hughes what funds he has next season, and he has to keep these type of players.All you silly boys on here want 5 youth players in the team, so heyyyyy, bring it on, lets see where youth takes us next season. Blames Hughes for not playing young kiddies, blames hughes for playing young kiddies, truly unbelievable. Dont get me wrong the numbnuts of man poo, are the same, blame managem,ent for the injuries, blame the management for not spoending another 200 million on players etc etc, the supporter of today is beyond me. Who the fuck has rattled your fuckin cage dick.....don't come on here insulting people who haven't even said anything about youth....just to get a little irritation off your chest!!! Personally I'd prefer Bardsley to Johnson, that ain't bringing youth in!!! So you think it's fine to keep extending aging players contracts, I doubt even Coates would think like that, he'd be very foolish to do so and expect to stay in the premier league!!! for everyone not u, i never mentioned i want ageing players, read again, digest and come back mr dick
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Post by hanibal7 on May 2, 2017 10:31:25 GMT
When are people going to start being brutally honest about our other midfielders. The extraordinarily average Joe Allen cost 13 million fucking quid for instance. THIRTEEN MILLION FUCKING POUNDS! Please see the "Joe Allen" thread. smiley face, see i told you so on my earlier thread, beggars belief, trying to get your name in lights because u want us to think you are right
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Post by 3putts on May 2, 2017 10:36:31 GMT
talksport specialises in controvesy to get more listeners to enable it to sell more advertising. its beyone me why anyone would want to listen to this moronic station? i would never lower myself. TALKSPORT=TALKSHITE
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 2, 2017 10:58:07 GMT
Please see the "Joe Allen" thread. smiley face, see i told you so on my earlier thread, beggars belief, trying to get your name in lights because u want us to think you are right I couldn't give two shits tbh.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on May 2, 2017 10:59:55 GMT
Who the fuck has rattled your fuckin cage dick.....don't come on here insulting people who haven't even said anything about youth....just to get a little irritation off your chest!!! Personally I'd prefer Bardsley to Johnson, that ain't bringing youth in!!! So you think it's fine to keep extending aging players contracts, I doubt even Coates would think like that, he'd be very foolish to do so and expect to stay in the premier league!!! for everyone not u, i never mentioned i want ageing players, read again, digest and come back mr dick For every one....NOT ME??? Then why "QUOTE" my particular post then??? Why not just post your own separately??????? I have read it again....and "NO" you didn't mention you wanted aging players, the same way I never said anything about youth.....so again....why did you "quote" my particular post if you weren't directing it at me??????? Explain!!!
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 2, 2017 11:09:03 GMT
Please see the "Joe Allen" thread. smiley face, see i told you so on my earlier thread, beggars belief, trying to get your name in lights because u want us to think you are right What's he said on the Joe Allen thread that isn't painfully accurate?
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