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Post by johnnysoul60 on May 6, 2017 16:12:54 GMT
Safe and a Stoke player scored away from home .
Still think a big shake up needed
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Post by liathroid on May 6, 2017 16:19:07 GMT
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Post by robwahlmann on May 6, 2017 16:20:07 GMT
Really should have won this at least by 4-1, but their second must surely have been offside!? At least it looked like that when I saw the replay!
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 6, 2017 16:20:23 GMT
Hughes still needs to go, theres no excuse for bringing Piters on. Pieters for Muniesa I would have had no problem with Muni looked vulnerable but the man is a completely spineless fuckwit. Everything he changed was with negative thinking, Oh for a positive manager. Agreed but Hughes shit it and settled for a draw in a pointless end of season game, strikes me as he may have been given a minimum target to reach this season.
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Post by Cast no shadow on May 6, 2017 16:20:27 GMT
Imbula ran the show here last year.
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 6, 2017 16:22:28 GMT
Really should have won this at least by 4-1, but their second must surely have been offside!? At least it looked like that when I saw the replay! I wasn't sure tbh, looked close.
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Post by sportsman on May 6, 2017 16:24:23 GMT
Arnie has missed far too many chances in recent weeks. He's great for a club like us but I just wish he could be a bit more clinical. Even a little bit would do. His finishing I'd actually class as poor. For the arsenal game i'd give him a kick up the arse and two choices. Id say 'Arnie, you're either left out i'm putting Sobhi in as you don't deserve to play in this one', or i'd let him start the game and with a minute gone on the clock sub him. He can't keep his place every week if he doesn't deserve it. This isn't me saying fuck him off either. It's me saying he needs to be kept on his toes more. Starting him every game even if he's had a poor game or two previous is doing nothing for him or us.
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Post by alster on May 6, 2017 16:26:31 GMT
Pieters for Muniesa I would have had no problem with Muni looked vulnerable but the man is a completely spineless fuckwit. Everything he changed was with negative thinking, Oh for a positive manager. Agreed but Hughes shit it and settled for a draw in a pointless end of season game, strikes me as he may have been given a minimum target to reach this season. He's been pulling the same negative sort of shit virtually all season, we never really get after teams give him a one goal lead and he's always looking to sit on it instead of driving home the advantage. Diouf for Walters was another totally negatively minded change.
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Post by lordb on May 6, 2017 16:29:10 GMT
Absolutely disgusting, but not surprising behaviour towards a player that has given us so much. Having a rough ride? Need a bit of support? Not at Stoke mate. Let's go back to Cresswell on the left. Great attitude. Creswell could finish mind. I thought Arnie played well today however he can't keep missing golden chances. He scored a cracker v Hull but absolutely should have scored two at Burnley,at home v Liverpool,that penalty at Swansea and a free header three yards out today That's too many. Cost Stoke a lot of points lately. He showed last season he can be a regular finisher so it's up to him. However no doubt this is Hughes fault.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 16:30:04 GMT
How can we not love him though ?
he'll probably score a brace against Arsenal next week because, you see
we all know - he can do that
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on May 6, 2017 16:31:02 GMT
Terrible attitude at times, so fekkin frustrating........ Utter bollox
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Post by tomcmod on May 6, 2017 16:32:01 GMT
So they should have had 2 sent off and there second was offside. We need a bit of luck, this is getting ridiculous!
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on May 6, 2017 16:32:29 GMT
Arnie has missed far too many chances in recent weeks. He's great for a club like us but I just wish he could be a bit more clinical. Even a little bit would do. His finishing I'd actually class as poor. For the arsenal game i'd give him a kick up the arse and two choices. Id say 'Arnie, you're either left out i'm putting Sobhi in as you don't deserve to play in this one', or i'd let him start the game and with a minute gone on the clock sub him. He can't keep his place every week if he doesn't deserve it. This isn't me saying fuck him off either. It's me saying he needs to be kept on his toes more. Starting him every game even if he's had a poor game or two previous is doing nothing for him or us. He's our best player. He plays. End of
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Post by songthrush01 on May 6, 2017 16:34:02 GMT
best player in doing what?
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Post by robwahlmann on May 6, 2017 16:34:41 GMT
Misses a sitter then lets his man run off him, well done mate... Where was Muniesa? Horribly out of position for no reason in the first place. Drifts out of position too often and that's one of the reasons why I don't like him at left back! Too slow and too weak are two other factors!
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Post by Fred Ferret on May 6, 2017 16:35:28 GMT
We're an absolute fucking disgrace. Appalling football. No consistency anywhere in the squad and a manager that's lost his bollocks and he plot. I don't recognise this club at the moment. Utter bollocks! The bloody ref stole that from us really.
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Post by RAF on May 6, 2017 16:35:43 GMT
Absolutely disgusting, but not surprising behaviour towards a player that has given us so much. Having a rough ride? Need a bit of support? Not at Stoke mate. Let's go back to Cresswell on the left. Great attitude. Set of cunts mate, make my piss boil! H
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Post by milky on May 6, 2017 16:36:01 GMT
Yet again somehow we refuse to win a game when it's almost gift wrapped. No chance is too easy to miss. No pass is too simple to fuck up when in a promising situation. We apparently don't defend our left hand side. And a player who clearly thrives on confidence gets hooked within minutes of scoring his first of the season when finally played as a striker..surprise surprise. And the less said about the final substitution the better.. Still..we are safe...so fuck off Benji 😊 We don't defend our left hand side...that might be why a left back was brought on then. Pieters for Muniesa was the obvious choice then.
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Post by stokiejoe on May 6, 2017 16:36:54 GMT
We should have won it and would have done if we could only convert chances.
Three bad decisions by the referee but we know we can't rely on refs getting it right.
1. Should have been a red 2. Goal was offside 3. Gave a foul because their goalie pushed our player in the back
Taking Diouf off when he had just scored didn't impress.
We need to write off this season, think carefully during the summmer and change the squad. Expect Hughes will stay until Christmas, after that depends on results before that. This is the most Premier League matches Hughes has had at 150, wait and see how many more.
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Post by tomcmod on May 6, 2017 16:37:00 GMT
That header wasn't easy, it was slightly behind him so it was always going be harder to get it down. Also complaining he was sprinting back to try and tackle their player when no-one else was near is uncalled for.
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Post by werrington on May 6, 2017 16:37:18 GMT
God I hate stoke fans at times
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Post by thehoof on May 6, 2017 16:40:57 GMT
I don't really think anyone can question Arnie's ability and commitment. What is frustrating is his finishing which is just shocking. Many posters are slating Berahino but Arnie' conversion rate must be something like I in 8? For a guy of his talent that just isn't good enough.
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Post by milky on May 6, 2017 16:41:02 GMT
Not having the best of times in front of goal of late..that much is obvious.
Still a class act though and has carried this team at times as an attacking entity.
And let's not forget Walters and Cameron both missed good chances.
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Post by scfcwebby on May 6, 2017 16:41:34 GMT
We should have won it and would have done if we could only convert chances. Three bad decisions by the referee but we know we can't rely on refs getting it right. 1. Should have been a red 2. Goal was offside 3. Gave a foul because their goalie pushed our player in the back Taking Diouf off when he had just scored didn't impress. We need to write off this season, think carefully during the summmer and change the squad. Expect Hughes will stay until Christmas, after that depends on results before that. This is the most Premier League matches Hughes has had at 150, wait and see how many more. 2 hopefully!
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Post by mrred on May 6, 2017 16:50:52 GMT
We're an absolute fucking disgrace. Appalling football. No consistency anywhere in the squad and a manager that's lost his bollocks and he plot. I don't recognise this club at the moment. Utter bollocks! The bloody ref stole that from us really. Utter. Bollocks.
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Post by turtlefox on May 6, 2017 16:57:37 GMT
The game showed us where we are as a team.Bournemouth are no push overs home or away. Thought we did OK. The red card could easily have stood but I can see why the ref didn't give it. Contact on the ball and earlyish in the game probably swayed him.That's not why we threw away the lead twice. We are in the same bracket as teams like Bournemouth and no matter which manager(maybe)we brought in, we're not going to break the top 8 on a regular basis. If coates wants Stoke to be a self sufficient club then thats not going to happen anytime soon.It isn't just down to Hughes. We're not that off target from where we should be as a club, run the way we are. We need a change but calling Hughes a clueless twat is just wrong and I'm pretty sure that whoever we bring in, the same people will be moaning about them. I could understand it if we were shit but we're not.
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 6, 2017 17:03:47 GMT
Utter bollocks! The bloody ref stole that from us really. Utter. Bollocks. Bit of both I think.
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Post by ohbottom on May 6, 2017 17:10:47 GMT
OK, Ive let an hour go by to let the red mist go away and taken the red'n'white striped blinkers off. Arter COULD have got a red - would've been no surprise if he did, but I don't think it was as clear-cut as many are making out. No doubt MoTD will give us their fair and balanced assessment Was that goal offside? First replays I saw it looked close but could've been in line. Not that easy to tell from a replay so is it fair to castigate the officials even if they did get it wrong? Their keeper given a foul for pushing one of ours in the back. WTF???? But even if we WERE hard done by, we had enough chances and good positions to win comfortably. Poor finishing and a poor last ball let us down time and again. THAT is the root cause of us not winning, surely?
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Post by Glory Hunter on May 6, 2017 18:01:09 GMT
We are creating chances, controlling the play and look better than results suggest. These ref decisions today were a complete disgrace, I know we can't rely on them, but good god, these were appalling.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 18:06:26 GMT
does not stop him being the only other man I have ever truly loved !
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