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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 25, 2017 22:54:43 GMT
Or does he need a strike partner?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 25, 2017 23:10:18 GMT
He needs some one with him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 23:12:59 GMT
From what I've seen, his hold up play has looked good, and he seems stronger than I first thought. His best game was against Hull, which is the only game where he's been a lone striker. It's worth a go, because 442 is wank, and Berahino needs creativity around him, not Walters.
He's only not a lone striker when we hoof it to him as if he's Peter Crouch rather than playing through the lines.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 25, 2017 23:27:11 GMT
If he's not, then I think he's going to have become one.
4-4-2 is horrible with our wingers and midfielders.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 23:42:39 GMT
I think he works better as a 2. But you have to play the system correctly, and we don't have them players, or the knowledge of the system.
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Post by thegift on Apr 26, 2017 0:38:02 GMT
Or does he need a strike partner? Is Berahino a lone striker? Edited for a more realistic question
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Post by biglad180 on Apr 26, 2017 8:34:12 GMT
id like to see bojan or iheanacho along side him that would give us plenty of movement up front
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Post by mouseykanga2 on Apr 26, 2017 8:38:55 GMT
We keep trying to buy a bargain in the most important game changing position.. A proven track record goal scorer in this division.. £20 million would buy you troy deaney. Worth it all day long.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 26, 2017 9:16:50 GMT
We keep trying to buy a bargain in the most important game changing position.. A proven track record goal scorer in this division.. £20 million would buy you troy deaney. Worth it all day long. I'm not sure we are are we, didn't we offer 20mil for Berahino at one point?
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Post by TinkerT on Apr 26, 2017 9:21:31 GMT
We keep trying to buy a bargain in the most important game changing position.. A proven track record goal scorer in this division.. £20 million would buy you troy deaney. Worth it all day long. Troy deeney?! Jesus wept. Glad Hughes isn't that stupid. Id rather have Walters over him and that's saying something.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 26, 2017 9:23:35 GMT
I think he works better as a 2. But you have to play the system correctly, and we don't have them players, or the knowledge of the system. That is the crux of the argument, would you not expect the manager to bring in players that suit his preferred system problem is he doesn't appear to have a system, God knows where Berahino will end up probably keeping Imbula company very soon and rightly so he way he is playing.
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Post by mickmacc on Apr 26, 2017 11:24:21 GMT
I'm hoping he's a loan striker -to someone else.
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 26, 2017 11:28:41 GMT
He needs tonto
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 26, 2017 11:30:42 GMT
We keep trying to buy a bargain in the most important game changing position.. A proven track record goal scorer in this division.. £20 million would buy you troy deaney. Worth it all day long. We need younger tbh
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Apr 26, 2017 12:37:30 GMT
I really like the look of Berahino & have no doubts he can play upfront on his own. Whether we can start having the rest of our attacking players sliding the ball through the defence; along the floor for him to run onto is another matter...
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Post by jezzascfc on Apr 26, 2017 13:10:43 GMT
If he is not one of a pair of strikers (which, let's face it, has not been an overwhelming success so far), we need to get support up and around him and not expect him to plough a lonely furrow. I really think we should try Shaq at 10 and Arnie and Ramadan pushing on in support from the wings.
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Post by kustokie on Apr 26, 2017 13:38:48 GMT
We keep trying to buy a bargain in the most important game changing position.. A proven track record goal scorer in this division.. £20 million would buy you troy deaney. Worth it all day long. Troy deeney?! Jesus wept. Glad Hughes isn't that stupid. Id rather have Walters over him and that's saying something. You sure about that?
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Post by TinkerT on Apr 26, 2017 13:42:19 GMT
Troy deeney?! Jesus wept. Glad Hughes isn't that stupid. Id rather have Walters over him and that's saying something. You sure about that? Yeah, deeneys a carthorse and i wouldn't even waste 5 million on him let alone 20...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 13:59:15 GMT
I think he works better as a 2. But you have to play the system correctly, and we don't have them players, or the knowledge of the system. That is the crux of the argument, would you not expect the manager to bring in players that suit his preferred system problem is he doesn't appear to have a system, God knows where Berahino will end up probably keeping Imbula company very soon and rightly so he way he is playing. I disagree about the way he's playing. But Hughes' seeming obsession with playing him in a 442 is really not getting the bet out of him. He's expecting Berahino to be a Fuller and create everything himself, which is simply not his game. 3 creative attacking players behind him and he'll be banging in the goals.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 26, 2017 15:05:05 GMT
That is the crux of the argument, would you not expect the manager to bring in players that suit his preferred system problem is he doesn't appear to have a system, God knows where Berahino will end up probably keeping Imbula company very soon and rightly so he way he is playing. I disagree about the way he's playing. But Hughes' seeming obsession with playing him in a 442 is really not getting the bet out of him. He's expecting Berahino to be a Fuller and create everything himself, which is simply not his game. 3 creative attacking players behind him and he'll be banging in the goals. So you agree that the manager has bought him here with no idea how he is going to fit into his system ?, what concerns me with Berahino is his lack of fitness and pace, for the amount of money spent you would have hoped we would have carried out due diligence on his capabilities now not two years ago.
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Post by nott1 on Apr 26, 2017 15:39:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 15:51:34 GMT
I disagree about the way he's playing. But Hughes' seeming obsession with playing him in a 442 is really not getting the bet out of him. He's expecting Berahino to be a Fuller and create everything himself, which is simply not his game. 3 creative attacking players behind him and he'll be banging in the goals. So you agree that the manager has bought him here with no idea how he is going to fit into his system ?, what concerns me with Berahino is his lack of fitness and pace, for the amount of money spent you would have hoped we would have carried out due diligence on his capabilities now not two years ago. Think his idea was 442, but since the entirety of the rest of our squad can't play in it, he's properly fucked up. In terms of Saido himself, as much as he's had 'a year of pre season' as someone said, premier league matches are the only thing that'll get him back to speed, and he looks far better now than his first appearance against everton.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 26, 2017 16:50:19 GMT
So you agree that the manager has bought him here with no idea how he is going to fit into his system ?, what concerns me with Berahino is his lack of fitness and pace, for the amount of money spent you would have hoped we would have carried out due diligence on his capabilities now not two years ago. Think his idea was 442, but since the entirety of the rest of our squad can't play in it, he's properly fucked up. In terms of Saido himself, as much as he's had 'a year of pre season' as someone said, premier league matches are the only thing that'll get him back to speed, and he looks far better now than his first appearance against everton. Makes sense as to why he has fucked up, why would you sign a player who you know or should know that in order for him to operate efficiently you would have to change your whole system, particularly when you have been using a different system that you bought players in to play, it makes no sense at all.
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Post by hoofmagic on Apr 26, 2017 16:59:27 GMT
striker... he can't even head a ball lol
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 19:21:56 GMT
Or does he need a strike partner?
We could dress SJW up as Tonto^
Oh striker I thought you said Ranger "" ""
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Post by kjpt140v on Apr 26, 2017 23:08:56 GMT
Or does he need a strike partner?
We could dress SJW up as Tonto^
Oh striker I thought you said Ranger "" ""
Well I have to say that having read a some of the boring negative tat on this thread I decided to play your link. As a fan of the man in the mask as a child it was great to learn the story behind the story. Many
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 26, 2017 23:10:48 GMT
striker... he can't even head a ball lol
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Post by Glory Hunter on Apr 27, 2017 8:54:40 GMT
Well clinical, he ain't - at least not yet! Hoping for a huge turnaround next season and it would be good if he could break his duck in the next one or two games.
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Post by robstokie on Apr 27, 2017 16:44:47 GMT
He certainly could play as a lone striker, but he would need the 3 behind him to supply good balls for him and pick up positions just behind or running beyond him to support him. I personally think he is better as one of 2 - im surprised he didn't pick up a good understanding with Rondon at West Brom.
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Post by samba :) on Apr 27, 2017 19:33:52 GMT
He needs a bojan.
He needs to be like wingie was when he first signed, but wingie had Ireland with him instead of bojan
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