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Post by stokefan76 on Apr 20, 2017 13:53:09 GMT
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Post by Cast no shadow on Apr 20, 2017 13:58:16 GMT
I'd be more surprised if he stayed fit
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 20, 2017 13:59:42 GMT
have you already decided he'll miss one match then? 
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Post by roylandstoke on Apr 20, 2017 14:00:56 GMT
Bloody hope so.
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Post by RichJonesy on Apr 20, 2017 14:01:25 GMT
Of course he can. He's in the shop window now isn't he.
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 20, 2017 14:35:56 GMT
Do whales not shit in the ocean
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Post by alster on Apr 20, 2017 14:39:09 GMT
I don't know where this type of shit comes from, when fit he is influential in games the vast majority of times he plays. Granted he can be a bit of a passenger when we're constantly under the cosh but in those circumstances you need a plan to get out from under not simply strip all flair from the team and replace it with graft. His fitness has been a major ball ache but we're a far better side to watch with him than without him and results confirm its not just aesthetic.
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Post by juiceandbits on Apr 20, 2017 14:51:27 GMT
I don't know where this type of shit comes from, when fit he is influential in games the vast majority of times he plays. Granted he can be a bit of a passenger when we're constantly under the cosh but in those circumstances you need a plan to get out from under not simply strip all flair from the team and replace it with graft. His fitness has been a major ball ache but we're a far better side to watch with him than without him and results confirm its not just aesthetic. Yeah, he'll be involved in chance creating more than likely. |
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Post by alster on Apr 20, 2017 14:58:26 GMT
I don't know where this type of shit comes from, when fit he is influential in games the vast majority of times he plays. Granted he can be a bit of a passenger when we're constantly under the cosh but in those circumstances you need a plan to get out from under not simply strip all flair from the team and replace it with graft. His fitness has been a major ball ache but we're a far better side to watch with him than without him and results confirm its not just aesthetic. Yeah, he'll be involved in chance creating more than likely. We're a totally different proposition with him on the pitch. I think him being unfit for so many games has been a major contributor to our season being so dull. |
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Post by chiswickpotter on Apr 20, 2017 15:14:19 GMT
He has featured in 16 league games this year, we have won 7, drawn 5 and lost 4, earning 26 points or 1.6 points per game. In the other 17 games he has missed we have collected 13 points or less than 0.8 points per game. We have scored 24 goals in his 16 games and only 13 in the other 17. We are twice as successful when he plays so the question is will he play not will he perform, if he is fit we will do better than without him, hard to doubt he is our most important player
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Post by alster on Apr 20, 2017 15:16:21 GMT
He has featured in 16 league games this year, we have won 7, drawn 5 and lost 4, earning 26 points or 1.6 points per game. In the other 16 game she has missed we have collected 13 points or 0.8 points per game. We are twice as successful when he plays so the question is will he play not will he perform, if he is fit we will do better than without him, hard to doubt he is our most important player I really wish people would start to realise this and stop wanting to replace class players with grafters and headless chickens. |
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Post by Gods on Apr 20, 2017 15:32:51 GMT
He has featured in 16 league games this year, we have won 7, drawn 5 and lost 4, earning 26 points or 1.6 points per game. In the other 17 games he has missed we have collected 13 points or less than 0.8 points per game. We have scored 24 goals in his 16 games and only 13 in the other 17. We are twice as successful when he plays so the question is will he play not will he perform, if he is fit we will do better than without him, hard to doubt he is our most important player Correlation does not necessarily imply causation. But I agree, we are much better with Shaq than without him and even if he never did another thing I'm thrilled I have seen him in a Stoke City shirt! |
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Post by tqstokie on Apr 20, 2017 15:34:18 GMT
Yes what we and everybody else wants is class but durable players. Maybe players should receive a bonus when they actually play. Something like appearance money. They may already receive a payment but I don't know.
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Post by alster on Apr 20, 2017 15:43:49 GMT
He has featured in 16 league games this year, we have won 7, drawn 5 and lost 4, earning 26 points or 1.6 points per game. In the other 17 games he has missed we have collected 13 points or less than 0.8 points per game. We have scored 24 goals in his 16 games and only 13 in the other 17. We are twice as successful when he plays so the question is will he play not will he perform, if he is fit we will do better than without him, hard to doubt he is our most important player Correlation does not necessarily imply causation. But I agree, we are much better with Shaq than without him and even if he never did another thing I'm thrilled I have seen him in a Stoke City shirt! I think you'll find he's been instrumental in most of those games we've garnered points in but its a moot point anyway the more weapons you have in your team whether they have an influential game or not the more likely that one or more of them will do something pivotal. We've spent far to much of this season looking toothless with Arnie as our only real weapon and the others needing somebody to make something happen for them which just hasn't happened often enough. In short you need as many players in your team who can hurt the opposition as you can manage whilst maintaining a balance with graft. We've been very much graft over flair this season its been soul destroying to watch considering the initial progress Hughes made in that regard. |
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Post by Gods on Apr 20, 2017 15:56:36 GMT
Yes what we and everybody else wants is class but durable players. Maybe players should receive a bonus when they actually play. Something like appearance money. They may already receive a payment but I don't know. I'd like that kind of arrangement in my work, so they pay me and then pay me a bonus when I actually deem to lift a finger to do something  |
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Post by biglad180 on Apr 20, 2017 16:34:30 GMT
Shaqiri is class play him has a number 10 and we will see the real shaqiri
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Post by mozzer on Apr 20, 2017 16:55:28 GMT
I am sure I watch a different game to most on here, I hope the lad is fit for Saturday as we are definitely a better side with him than without him but a run of form..........really!!
A run of 2 games yes and it is good to see this with his medically challenged chequered history since signing but.........
a run of form not a chance, a couple of assists which you would expect a player in his position to be supplying and a worldy of a goal but other than the goal no more than bang average for the last 2 games he has been back,
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 17:11:29 GMT
We'll release the shackles on Saturday and batter Swansea. It will be like the footballing equivalent of the Harlem Globetrotters, Arnie and Shaqiri showing their armery of tricks, with Sobhi finally being able to bring out his "standing on the ball whilst appearing to be moving trick"
Swansea 1 Stoke City 5. They'll be releasing a DVD a few days later.....
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Post by chiswickpotter on Apr 20, 2017 18:16:33 GMT
He has featured in 16 league games this year, we have won 7, drawn 5 and lost 4, earning 26 points or 1.6 points per game. In the other 17 games he has missed we have collected 13 points or less than 0.8 points per game. We have scored 24 goals in his 16 games and only 13 in the other 17. We are twice as successful when he plays so the question is will he play not will he perform, if he is fit we will do better than without him, hard to doubt he is our most important player Correlation does not necessarily imply causation. But I agree, we are much better with Shaq than without him and even if he never did another thing I'm thrilled I have seen him in a Stoke City shirt! True but those stats allow some degrees of freedom to still be pretty powerful. he can shoot, see a pass, execute a pass, dribble and cross better than everyone else which is a reasonable starting point |
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Post by leicspotter on Apr 21, 2017 10:32:05 GMT
To be fair, his stats don't really do him justice. He has created so many more chances that haven't been converted...he just can't stay fit long enough to have the full impact that we so desperately need. I really do believe that with Shaq fit we will soon see goals from Saido. My fingers are well and truly crossed...probably explains all the typos! |
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