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Post by gingerninja on Apr 4, 2017 12:13:24 GMT
I think he can be the answer there. Likes to play little one 2's and give and goes. Can pick a pass and is strong as an Ox.. Most of all I can see him of all the players we have bring the best out of Saido?
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Post by malteser68 on Apr 4, 2017 12:16:17 GMT
Our most exciting prospect by more than a country mile
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Post by pez75 on Apr 4, 2017 12:19:25 GMT
If that would result in either Walters or Diouf being stuck out on the wing then absolutely not.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 4, 2017 12:21:01 GMT
I think he can be the answer there. Likes to play little one 2's and give and goes. Can pick a pass and is strong as an Ox.. Most of all I can see him of all the players we have bring the best out of Saido? I think he could play there. I think he probably will play there sooner or later. He doesn't really have the pace you'd hope for in a winger but he makes up for that by being as strong as an ox and very difficult to shake off the ball. He has to be tried there at some point. In the meantime he, Arnie and whoever plays behind the striker should be encouraged to be as fluid as possible. |
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Post by somersetstokie on Apr 4, 2017 12:24:30 GMT
How many "number 10's" do you think we need!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 4, 2017 12:26:17 GMT
How many "number 10's" do you think we need! One would be nice because there's currently zero at the club. |
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Post by sonichuth on Apr 4, 2017 12:27:55 GMT
How many "number 10's" do you think we need! We only have one proper one and he's in Germany. The other guy who could potentially play there is perpetually crocked. Hughes needs to have a real think about this position as it's an area we're sorely lacking, and our lack of creativity from the middle is really showing us up - and I wouldn't count Joe Allen as a 10 either. |
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Post by somersetstokie on Apr 4, 2017 13:42:04 GMT
Apart from Bojan who is sadly out on loan, of the current squad we have Shaqiri, Affelay, Allen and perhaps even Ireland who have played or could play in the no 10 role when fit. But yes Sobhi has an equally valid claim to the position, and importantly we could build something loosely describable as a "team" around him.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 4, 2017 14:25:52 GMT
Forny makes a good point about Sohbi's pace and his strength in the number 10 position allied with his ability on the ball could work.
I don't think we are going to see much of a goal return from him in either role but creatively he could be very decent.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Apr 4, 2017 14:31:59 GMT
Arnie could be a perfectly good Number 10 too. It really does come down to the two playing behind and the striker in front of whichever 10 plays. There's enough trickery and creativity in Sobhi, Shaq and Arnie for it to seem more than possible for it to work. Someone other than Saido as our first choice striker may have to come in first though.
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Post by obhstokie on Apr 4, 2017 14:36:55 GMT
In a 4231 you ideally want the 3 to be able to interchange all throughout the match, not only does it give you different attacking options but it confuses the defence.
Having a 3 of arnie sobhi and shaqiri looks awesome (doubtful on shaqiri of course) as all 3 can play anywhere across the 3.
However I don't think shoehorning sobhi in the middle is the answer.
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 4, 2017 14:39:35 GMT
If we put two number tens together then we will have a number 20 it could work
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Post by ElworthPotter on Apr 4, 2017 14:45:02 GMT
We have 2 players in our entire squad that will beat a man and get the ball into the box. Why move one of them to play centrally where he can't do that?
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Apr 4, 2017 14:53:06 GMT
He can beat a man
He can cross
Hes good defensively
He doesnt like to shoot
Putting him at number 10 nullifies many of his abilities. Im sure he could play there but he's naturally a winger. We have the 2 wing positions sorted so lets not mess with them and put more square pegs into round shaped holes
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Post by unknown182 on Apr 4, 2017 14:56:32 GMT
Beat me to to it. Being able to shoot and chip in with goals is a must for the number 10 position. He needs to work on that first.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Apr 4, 2017 15:05:32 GMT
He can beat a man He can cross Hes good defensively He doesnt like to shoot Putting him at number 10 nullifies many of his abilities. Im sure he could play there but he's naturally a winger. We have the 2 wing positions sorted so lets not mess with them and put more square pegs into round shaped holes Playing our best player out of position on the right wing is certainly a slightly square peg scenario. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Apr 4, 2017 15:08:15 GMT
How many "number 10's" do you think we need! 15,amd all on the pitch at the same time,along with 6 strikers 4 goalkeepers.😁 |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 15:10:18 GMT
It's probably worth a go. I think he could do a job there, but I think the wing suits his abilities better. It's a pity he isn't a little bit quicker.
I'd have liked to have seen that little prick Shaqiri in the no 10 position but it wouldn't surprise me if we don't see him again at all!
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Post by moz on Apr 4, 2017 15:39:23 GMT
He can beat a man He can cross Hes good defensively He doesnt like to shoot Putting him at number 10 nullifies many of his abilities. Im sure he could play there but he's naturally a winger. We have the 2 wing positions sorted so lets not mess with them and put more square pegs into round shaped holes One of the most important skills required from no 10 player is shooting which Ramadan sadly lacks or at least never showed if he find his shoot he will be very good as no 10. We have to make do with what we have till the summer or play shaq when fit or in hopeless scenarios we can try Arni |
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Post by RichJonesy on Apr 4, 2017 15:42:04 GMT
Putting him there at the moment could be more damaging than good. I can see the points for playing him in there but his confidence is starting to grow in his natural position. Let him settle there and get a few goals and assists before asking him to change his game.
One bad game or even a couple of bad passes and his confidence will be knocked massively.
He's a winger, a good one, let's just let him play his game.
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Post by nutterpotter on Apr 5, 2017 14:03:29 GMT
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Post by alster on Apr 5, 2017 14:09:33 GMT
Putting him there at the moment could be more damaging than good. I can see the points for playing him in there but his confidence is starting to grow in his natural position. Let him settle there and get a few goals and assists before asking him to change his game. One bad game or even a couple of bad passes and his confidence will be knocked massively. He's a winger, a good one, let's just let him play his game. You're right he is still finding his way having players coming in from both sides of him would test his awareness at this point he's better off with the line on one side and players mainly coming at him from the other. I don't think he's a natural winger and think it could be a good position for him in time. |
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Post by robstokie on Apr 5, 2017 14:10:36 GMT
He can beat a man He can cross Hes good defensively He doesnt like to shoot Putting him at number 10 nullifies many of his abilities. Im sure he could play there but he's naturally a winger. We have the 2 wing positions sorted so lets not mess with them and put more square pegs into round shaped holes He also puts in a shift covering his full back which we would lose if he played more centrally. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Apr 5, 2017 14:14:33 GMT
He's going to be our new full back, just to reinforce how much Hughes has shafted Diouf.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Apr 5, 2017 14:20:55 GMT
What a load of hysterical nonsense that article is. I love Ramadan and sincerely hope he goes on to fulfil his potential with us, but Christ on a bike, he's been here five minutes and the writer is mentioning the Ballon d'or. Let's see where we are with him this time next year. |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Apr 5, 2017 14:45:17 GMT
Nice article to read. He is the real deal and can reach right to the top. Would be happy if we get him for 2 more years before he goes onto bigger things and we get a nice 35million for him. Maybe he will be lining up for Barcelona in a couple of years alongside Steven Nzonzi? hahaha |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 15:25:47 GMT
He's very, very good and seems very mature. Needs to work on his end product. I would love to see him drive past players and get a shot away.
One of the seasons few plusses.
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Post by RichJonesy on Apr 5, 2017 16:16:33 GMT
Putting him there at the moment could be more damaging than good. I can see the points for playing him in there but his confidence is starting to grow in his natural position. Let him settle there and get a few goals and assists before asking him to change his game. One bad game or even a couple of bad passes and his confidence will be knocked massively. He's a winger, a good one, let's just let him play his game. You're right he is still finding his way having players coming in from both sides of him would test his awareness at this point he's better off with the line on one side and players mainly coming at him from the other. I don't think he's a natural winger and think it could be a good position for him in time. I can see why people are calling for him there but yeah, he's 20, and new to the league. Let's allow him to settle where he's familiar playing and then look at shuffling him around if needs be. Let's try to build his confidence first before we knock it. |
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Post by superheroantonius on Apr 5, 2017 17:28:18 GMT
I think like arnie he's very good out wide
Especially if he can get a bit of space and run at his man
Perhaps we will never know why diouf doesn't get to play up top?
I am not buying into the idea that it's because his finishing would leave him bagging us 12 or 13 goals a season
As basically 12 or 13 goals a season from anyone would be fine for us
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Post by redstriper on Apr 5, 2017 17:50:50 GMT
What a load of hysterical nonsense that article is. I love Ramadan and sincerely hope he goes on to fulfil his potential with us, but Christ on a bike, he's been here five minutes and the writer is mentioning the Ballon d'or. Let's see where we are with him this time next year. careful - you'll upset malteser who has already called him the new Ronaldo on here despite the fact that he hasn't even scored for us yet  |
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