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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 15:40:04 GMT
Yet again - Seemingly losing meekly two nil away with hardly a whimper
When I heard who wasn't playing and who was back in and, immediately knew what the outcome would be
those defeats with us hardly capable of threatening the opposing goal, are pretty much the norm this season
apart from, a few real 4 - 0 hammerings too
we just need one more win to 'flop over the finishing line' this season and write this one off.
And I for one, will be relieved
(definitely not buying the end of season DVD this time around !)
Have renewed the season ticket though
Lets hope for a proper clearout this summer (the one - its plain as the nose on your face, we so badly need now)
and much, much better next season in front of our 30 thousand seater stadium
and whats really galling
Tony Pulis must be pissing his sides at our antics
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 15:43:24 GMT
It's arguably one of the worst seasons we have had.
Early knock outs in both cups.
Turgid boring football.
Heavy defeats.
No atmosphere.
Bojan gone, Shaq and Imbula all but gone. Old players, no replacements, clueless manager.
I honestly can't think of a worse one.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 1, 2017 15:43:58 GMT
Re a clear out, Walters, Crouch, Afellay and Whelan all have a year or two left. All need to leave.
Johnson and Adam will hopefully be let go.
Who else?
And it's not going to happen anyway.
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Post by Clem Fandango on Apr 1, 2017 15:45:29 GMT
I honestly have no idea what football the manager wants to play and that's a worry.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 15:46:35 GMT
if it doesn't happen, ( a major clear - out) next season could well be our last at this level
I happen to like our manager but would also happily, bang his head against the wall sometimes
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Post by liamo on Apr 1, 2017 15:46:58 GMT
Re a clear out, Walters, Crouch, Afellay and Whelan all have a year or two left. All need to leave. Johnson and Adam will hopefully be let go. Who else? And it's not going to happen anyway. Even if he did get rid, do you trust him replacing them properly? I know i wouldn't, the only thing he's done is temporarily improved our style, spent a shit load of money on maybe players and returned to the type of football that got Pulis fired |
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Post by thegift on Apr 1, 2017 15:47:59 GMT
It's arguably one of the worst seasons we have had. Early knock outs in both cups. Turgid boring football. Heavy defeats. No atmosphere. Bojan gone, Shaq and Imbula all but gone. Old players, no replacements, clueless manager. I honestly can't think of a worse one. Couldn't of put this any better |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 1, 2017 15:48:02 GMT
Re a clear out, Walters, Crouch, Afellay and Whelan all have a year or two left. All need to leave. Johnson and Adam will hopefully be let go. Who else? And it's not going to happen anyway. Even if he did get rid, do you trust him replacing them properly? I know i wouldn't, the only thing he's done is temporarily improved our style, spent a shit load of money on maybe players and returned to the type of football that got Pulis fired No do I fuck. But I don't think Coates will sack him. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 15:48:35 GMT
its a problem no doubt
do you let him spend more money or not ?
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Post by greyman on Apr 1, 2017 15:49:23 GMT
It's arguably one of the worst seasons we have had. Early knock outs in both cups. Turgid boring football. Heavy defeats. No atmosphere. Bojan gone, Shaq and Imbula all but gone. Old players, no replacements, clueless manager. I honestly can't think of a worse one. Arf. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 15:49:39 GMT
A pivotal summer approaches. Get it wrong (manager, clear out, new signings) and we're on the downside of the cycle.
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Post by TinkerT on Apr 1, 2017 15:51:13 GMT
Re a clear out, Walters, Crouch, Afellay and Whelan all have a year or two left. All need to leave. Johnson and Adam will hopefully be let go. Who else? And it's not going to happen anyway. Its a sad state of affairs when all the players listed don't change our current problem positions (apart from centre midfield) we need 2 fullbacks (at least) a centre mid, and another winger, that's before any of the above are even fucked off, what a shambles. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 1, 2017 15:54:44 GMT
Re a clear out, Walters, Crouch, Afellay and Whelan all have a year or two left. All need to leave. Johnson and Adam will hopefully be let go. Who else? And it's not going to happen anyway. Don't think any of those 4 will be going. We'll definitely be seeing Given, Haugaard, Johnson, Muniesa, Wollscheid, Adam, Ireland, Imbula, Shaqiri, Bojan, Joselu and Bony disappearing as it is. This summer is going to be monumentally big. Bet there's only 7 or 8 you could absolutely hang your hat on being here come August - Butland, Grant, Shawcross, Pieters, Cameron, Allen, Berahino, Arnie, Sobhi... Berahino is starting to worry me. Don't think you could absolutely rule out Coates getting rid of Hughes, but think the chances are ridiculously small. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 1, 2017 15:58:10 GMT
Even if he did get rid, do you trust him replacing them properly? I know i wouldn't, the only thing he's done is temporarily improved our style, spent a shit load of money on maybe players and returned to the type of football that got Pulis fired No do I fuck. But I don't think Coates will sack him. I think the results of the remaining matches will determine what Coates ultimately does. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 1, 2017 15:59:02 GMT
Re a clear out, Walters, Crouch, Afellay and Whelan all have a year or two left. All need to leave. Johnson and Adam will hopefully be let go. Who else? And it's not going to happen anyway. Don't think any of those 4 will be going. We'll definitely be seeing Given, Haugaard, Johnson, Muniesa, Wollscheid, Adam, Ireland, Imbula, Shaqiri, Bojan, Joselu and Bony disappearing as it is. This summer is going to be monumentally big. Bet there's only 7 or 8 you could absolutely hang your hat on being here come August - Butland, Grant, Shawcross, Pieters, Cameron, Allen, Berahino, Arnie, Sobhi... Berahino is starting to worry me. Don't think you could absolutely rule out Coates getting rid of Hughes, but think the chances are ridiculously small. Those 4 are the epitome of why we're so bad thoug. And that's why I think Hughes has to go. But that isn't going to happen either. Berahino worries me too but he doesn't but Hughes' plan for him is what worries me. |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Apr 1, 2017 15:59:50 GMT
Looking at the team out on the pitch now what happened to our 'model' of buying players with re-sale value. A team that relies on older player without replacing them will ultimately fall! Johnson, Whelan, Walters, Adam, Crouch??? Why give contract extensions to these players unless you're trying to do it on the cheap. Just shows how shit the Premiership is really that we survive relativey comfortably.
Hughes has his player he needs to use these last games to actually get a tune out of them. What about giving the youngsters a run out? If we are keepng the older players on waiting for the younger player why not give them the last few games to see if they are up to anything at this level.
Cartwright and his mob want fucking off as well our recruitment is dire.
There is something naggingly wrong within the club, maybe a divide between Home and overseas players, borne out the reversion to the old guard. Maybe some bad apples that need getting rid of problem is, I suspect, the bad apples cost us a lot of money and we have little hope of recouping the outlay.
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Post by cozmick on Apr 1, 2017 16:02:05 GMT
Can see us losing millions in league places come the end of the season thanks to the torrid time the team is having.
5 points from 16th and Palace have a game in hand.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 16:03:45 GMT
I am more excited about the boat race this season. It's been a stinker right from the pre season we have looked crap.
The extending OLD players contracts and losing flair players has just about put the cap on a depressing state of affairs.
I'm not sure who's fault it is or who's crap grand plan is being followed, but how Peter Coates can sit there and watch the same capitulation time and again ....well...I know I wouldn't and it would not just be the manager waving his p45 either. too much money for far too little effort from most of our so called stars this season.
Sky used to say "You know what you get with Stoke" well you do now , we lie down and take it up the (trying not to swear) anus on a regular basis.
Can we at least try and get our games rearranged for a Monday night so it doesn't put a down on the whole weekend.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Apr 1, 2017 16:04:25 GMT
Said for a while, the mans got to go at the end of the season.
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Post by sanmarinostokie on Apr 1, 2017 16:04:51 GMT
Huge huge summer ahead. Hughes has to sort this shit out. Any less than 12 more points and I think he will go at the end of the season.
To still be relying on walters, whelan, crouch, adam is nothing short of disgraceful. They do not strike any fear whatsoever into other teams. Because we can only play one way if they play. Do not inspire confidence.
You cannot be telling me that Giannelli Imbula would have done a worse job than joe allen or glenn whelan today. They don't have a creative bone in their bodies. Even playing bony over walters would have been a better option. We missed cameron badly though today. Johnson has become a liability lately.
To go in the summer would be at least ireland, adam, johnson, given, haugaard, crouch, perhaps walters and whelan but would not mind them as squad players.
Hughes has done his best work when operating on a tight budget so I would, if I were peter coates, give him a limited budget and hunt for bargains.
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Post by oldpotter1950 on Apr 1, 2017 16:05:07 GMT
HUGHES IS DOING WHAT HE DID AT QPR.HE IS SPLASHING VAST AMOUNTS OF MONEY ON PLAYERS AND THEN IS NOT BLOODY PLAYING THEM.WHEN IS HE GOING TO LEARN THAT THIS SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING,WHY BUY ALL THESE PLAYERS AND THEN STILL PLAY THE LIKES OF CROUCH, WHELAN , JOHNSON ETC. THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MOST FRUSTRATING SEASONS IN THE PREMIER UP TO YET.
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 1, 2017 16:06:16 GMT
Don't think any of those 4 will be going. We'll definitely be seeing Given, Haugaard, Johnson, Muniesa, Wollscheid, Adam, Ireland, Imbula, Shaqiri, Bojan, Joselu and Bony disappearing as it is. This summer is going to be monumentally big. Bet there's only 7 or 8 you could absolutely hang your hat on being here come August - Butland, Grant, Shawcross, Pieters, Cameron, Allen, Berahino, Arnie, Sobhi... Berahino is starting to worry me. Don't think you could absolutely rule out Coates getting rid of Hughes, but think the chances are ridiculously small. Those 4 are the epitome of why we're so bad thoug. And that's why I think Hughes has to go. But that isn't going to happen either. Berahino worries me too but he doesn't but Hughes' plan for him is what worries me. I wouldn't be against them going in any ordinary summer. But we've allowed ourselves to get into the situation where we're going to need a massive influx of players. Trying to replace those 4 old heads as well would be almost impossible. They're all going to be very, very fringey next year anyway, aren't they? I'm a bit concerned about next season though. |
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Post by houstonsteve on Apr 1, 2017 16:07:48 GMT
No excuses. It wouldn't be so bad if there was a plan and a team that looked like they cared (Arnie, Sobhi and Grant the exceptions) but there is no accountability for consistent bad performances, and baffling amounts of talent shipped out (Jos, Bojan etc), sent to the naughty step, Bony etc or benched for old faithfuls who offer nothing (Walters, Crouch, Whelan, Johnson - no disrespect, good servants and decent people but just not good enough).
No hunger, no passion and no professionalism is inexcusable. If we don't significantly improve for the rest of the season its hard to see why anyone would support Hughes further because its not like he hasn't had plenty of cash to address the issues in this team. I like the guy but I don't see how he can justify his position at the moment and its not at all clear what his plan and system is.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 1, 2017 16:08:48 GMT
Those 4 are the epitome of why we're so bad thoug. And that's why I think Hughes has to go. But that isn't going to happen either. Berahino worries me too but he doesn't but Hughes' plan for him is what worries me. I wouldn't be against them going in any ordinary summer. But we've allowed ourselves to get into the situation where we're going to need a massive influx of players. Trying to replace those 4 old heads as well would be almost impossible. They're all going to be very, very fringey next year anyway, aren't they? I'm a bit concerned about next season though. They should be, they should have been this season..... And it highlights how poor the decision was to renew their contracts. I honestly think we need a new midfield. I'd happily get rid of them all bar none and start again. I'm trying not to think about next season. |
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Post by Skankmonkey on Apr 1, 2017 16:09:04 GMT
No do I fuck. But I don't think Coates will sack him. I think the results of the remaining matches will determine what Coates ultimately does. Yep. And season ticket sales. |
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Post by oldpotter1950 on Apr 1, 2017 16:10:30 GMT
I AM DREADING WATCHING MATCH OF THE DAY TONIGHT, WE WILL HAVE OLD JUG EARS BEAMING LIKE A CHESHIRE CAT AND DRONING ON ABOUT HOW GOOD LEICESTER PLAYED. WE HAVE HARDLY HEARD A PEEP OUT OF HIM RECENTLY UNTIL THE LAST FEW WEEKS. NOW YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SHUT THE PRAT UP.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Apr 1, 2017 16:12:13 GMT
Re a clear out, Walters, Crouch, Afellay and Whelan all have a year or two left. All need to leave. Johnson and Adam will hopefully be let go. Who else? And it's not going to happen anyway. Don't think any of those 4 will be going. We'll definitely be seeing Given, Haugaard, Johnson, Muniesa, Wollscheid, Adam, Ireland, Imbula, Shaqiri, Bojan, Joselu and Bony disappearing as it is. This summer is going to be monumentally big. Bet there's only 7 or 8 you could absolutely hang your hat on being here come August - Butland, Grant, Shawcross, Pieters, Cameron, Allen, Berahino, Arnie, Sobhi... Berahino is starting to worry me.Don't think you could absolutely rule out Coates getting rid of Hughes, but think the chances are ridiculously small. Took me two games to get to that stage, you 3. Now that is worrying  |
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Post by trincostokie on Apr 1, 2017 16:12:37 GMT
Sloppy, ponderous, turgid, shite...
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Post by iglugluk on Apr 1, 2017 16:12:41 GMT
Definitely a disappointing season as far as I'm concerned. Squad seems worryingly bare in certain key positions, we seem to be struggling to find a striker given many attempts to do so, confusing tactical approach in too many games, lack of shots and chance creation. Hughes has had plenty of time to build the team and it seems to be getting worse. Fuck me Southampton seem to manage it each year! I think we need a manager with a clearer tactical vision.
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Post by StokieNath on Apr 1, 2017 16:13:19 GMT
So so poor.
Rolled over again and tickled on the belly.
Boring, slow, dire football.
But it's alright, Marks shoes were polished.
Get him out at the end of the season.
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