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Post by Gods on Mar 25, 2017 14:47:40 GMT
UKIP's Douglas Carswell chucks in the towel.
I honestly think the games up for UKIP, we'll see a further backlash from the balls up that will be brexit and that'll be more or less that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 15:41:49 GMT
The facts are...They've been trying to fuck him off for a long time now
Douglas carswell won't be missed. He's done fuck all for ukip from day one. All the good work was done by farage
thanks to farage and ukip We are now talking about irresponsible immigration
We have recently had a referendum to leave the European Union and won it We are on the verge of triggering article 50
The 2 main parties are now taking up ukip policies
We are now, as a nation not frightened of talking about problems that we were once too scared to mention.
All down to Nigel farage and ukip
Carswell has done fuck all but weaken them
This is a good result for ukip.
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Post by felonious on Mar 25, 2017 16:01:14 GMT
The facts are...They've been trying to fuck him off for a long time now Douglas carswell won't be missed. He's done fuck all for ukip from day one. All the good work was done by farage We are now talking about irresponsible immigration We have recently had a referendum to leave the European Union and won't it We are on the verge of triggering article 50 The 2 main parties are now taking up ukip policies We are now, as a nation not frightened of talking about problems that we were once too scared to mention. All down to Nigel farage and ukip Carswell has done fuck all but weaken them This is a good result for ukip. This sums it up quite succinctly although I might add that loyal Douglas did say he was happy with the fabulous way in which the Prime Minister has taken the job of implementing the will of the people
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 16:30:16 GMT
The facts are...They've been trying to fuck him off for a long time now Douglas carswell won't be missed. He's done fuck all for ukip from day one. All the good work was done by farage We are now talking about irresponsible immigration We have recently had a referendum to leave the European Union and won't it We are on the verge of triggering article 50 The 2 main parties are now taking up ukip policies We are now, as a nation not frightened of talking about problems that we were once too scared to mention. All down to Nigel farage and ukip Carswell has done fuck all but weaken them This is a good result for ukip. This sums it up quite succinctly although I might add that loyal Douglas did say he was happy with the fabulous way in which the Prime Minister has taken the job of implementing the will of the people That what you'd call a proper Slimey cunt
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Post by salopstick on Mar 25, 2017 16:52:48 GMT
For carswell it was all about sticking two fingers up against Cameron. UKIP was a convenient excuse
But judging by his election results I suspect he's a decent constituency MP
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Post by mattador78 on Mar 25, 2017 17:09:32 GMT
Technically ukip are redundant now we are leaving the EU anyway
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 17:43:25 GMT
Technically ukip are redundant now we are leaving the EU anyway For now yes. Theresa May is quite popular with the public while she's taken up ukip's policies Ukip and farage will bounce back into popularity the day the government try to Back track.
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Post by felonious on Mar 25, 2017 18:10:52 GMT
Technically ukip are redundant now we are leaving the EU anyway For now yes. Theresa May is quite popular with the public while she's taken up ukip's policies Ukip and farage will bounce back into popularity the day the government try to Back track. Yer like a broken record
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 18:15:53 GMT
For now yes. Theresa May is quite popular with the public while she's taken up ukip's policies Ukip and farage will bounce back into popularity the day the government try to Back track. Yer like a broken record First time I've said that
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 25, 2017 18:58:27 GMT
One or none MPs - it doesn't really matter. They will continue to get vast amounts of airtime from their mates in the media, and continue to have a public platform despite being rejected over and over again by the British public.
They are now defunct, but won't go away for a while yet.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 25, 2017 20:38:00 GMT
Farage is the most dangerous, divisive scaremonger of his generation, simple.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 20:48:35 GMT
Farage is the most dangerous, divisive scaremonger of his generation, simple. Why are you signing your post off with ..."simple" shouldnt you just put Paul ?
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 26, 2017 8:07:39 GMT
Farage is the most dangerous, divisive scaremonger of his generation, simple. Not if you like the message , which a lot of people seemed to do . It's called democracy buddy
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 27, 2017 10:11:10 GMT
Farage is the most dangerous, divisive scaremonger of his generation, simple. Not if you like the message , which a lot of people seemed to do . It's called democracy buddy A lot of people liked Adolf Hitler's message too and he was elected in a democracy! Didn't make Hitler any less of a scare-mongering, divisive figure!
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Post by Rick Grimes on Mar 27, 2017 10:51:57 GMT
Farage is the most dangerous, divisive scaremonger of his generation, simple. Not if you like the message , which a lot of people seemed to do . It's called democracy buddy He couldn't even get elected as an MP that's how likeable his message was, the only member of UKIP to get ever elected as an MP has now left them. I think the 'UKIP influencing Tory policy' claim is greatly overestimated by UKIP supporters, the referendum came about because Cameron was trying to appease the Eurosceptics in his own party, if he wasn't trying to do that then I don't think the referendum would have happened regardless of how much Farage/UKIP were banging on about it.
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Post by Gods on Mar 27, 2017 10:57:28 GMT
Not if you like the message , which a lot of people seemed to do . It's called democracy buddy He couldn't even get elected as an MP that's how likeable his message was, the only member of UKIP to get ever elected as an MP has now left them. I think the 'UKIP influencing Tory policy' claim is greatly overestimated by UKIP supporters, the referendum came about because Cameron was trying to appease the Eurosceptics in his own party, if he wasn't trying to do that then I don't think the referendum would have happened regardless of how much Farage/UKIP were banging on about it. Yes where the heck is 'just call me Dave' who set the stage for this calamity? He was such a proud Britain and yet his reckless gamble on the referendum has split this nation right down the middle and may even lead to the break-up of the British Isles itself. Referendums are not how we do politics in this country, we have a system of elective democracy, where we elect MP's to take the time and trouble to come up with the right decisions. That's why when you walk down the street there are not people hanging from trees.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 27, 2017 11:12:41 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 11:47:38 GMT
Time to form a new party with a new agenda.
Deluded Unionist Morons Party or "DUMP" will be set up with a main aim of getting rid of that Idiot Nicola Sturgeon and all who sail in her Titanical Ship.
First step is getting a "Right to Vote" on a referendum to ditch the moaning Jocks from the UK for the rest of the British people.
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 27, 2017 14:41:44 GMT
Not if you like the message , which a lot of people seemed to do . It's called democracy buddy He couldn't even get elected as an MP that's how likeable his message was, the only member of UKIP to get ever elected as an MP has now left them. I think the 'UKIP influencing Tory policy' claim is greatly overestimated by UKIP supporters, the referendum came about because Cameron was trying to appease the Eurosceptics in his own party, if he wasn't trying to do that then I don't think the referendum would have happened regardless of how much Farage/UKIP were banging on about it. Cameron offered the chance of an in out referendum not to appease the Euroscepics in his own party but the Eurosceptics in the electorate as a whole . ukip were making inroads into the Tory vote and with an election looming he didn't want another coalition. He never thought for one minute he would loose the in out vote or that traditional labour strongholds would vote out or for the reasons they did . Massive miscalculation by Cameron .
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 27, 2017 14:54:50 GMT
He couldn't even get elected as an MP that's how likeable his message was, the only member of UKIP to get ever elected as an MP has now left them. I think the 'UKIP influencing Tory policy' claim is greatly overestimated by UKIP supporters, the referendum came about because Cameron was trying to appease the Eurosceptics in his own party, if he wasn't trying to do that then I don't think the referendum would have happened regardless of how much Farage/UKIP were banging on about it. Yes where the heck is 'just call me Dave' who set the stage for this calamity? He was such a proud Britain and yet his reckless gamble on the referendum has split this nation right down the middle and may even lead to the break-up of the British Isles itself. Referendums are not how we do politics in this country, we have a system of elective democracy, where we elect MP's to take the time and trouble to come up with the right decisions. That's why when you walk down the street there are not people hanging from trees. That's fine and dandy for folks like you gods enjoying life in the city . The people who voted brexit have had a different experience
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 27, 2017 18:09:23 GMT
Farage is the most dangerous, divisive scaremonger of his generation, simple. Not if you like the message , which a lot of people seemed to do . It's called democracy buddy No it's called serial bullshit, buddy.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 28, 2017 6:13:36 GMT
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Post by felonious on Mar 28, 2017 7:06:50 GMT
From my experience they put them up there to knock them down. Yesterday was a good example on the Daily politics show where Jo Coburn constantly interrupted the UKIP speaker and let the others continue to have there say.
In terms of statics being skewed weren't UKIP the largest party at the last European elections?
If you think there's a BBC love in with UKIP you're wide of the mark or in love with fake news.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 8:09:26 GMT
Not if you like the message , which a lot of people seemed to do . It's called democracy buddy He couldn't even get elected as an MP that's how likeable his message was, the only member of UKIP to get ever elected as an MP has now left them. I think the 'UKIP influencing Tory policy' claim is greatly overestimated by UKIP supporters, the referendum came about because Cameron was trying to appease the Eurosceptics in his own party, if he wasn't trying to do that then I don't think the referendum would have happened regardless of how much Farage/UKIP were banging on about it. Without farage, ukip and it's 4 million supporters the referendum question alone would not have even risen its head
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Post by Skankmonkey on Mar 28, 2017 11:36:19 GMT
Carswell will fade into obscurity and eventually end up in whatever circle of hell is reserved for disloyal tories.
Farage will live on in effigy as a regular guest at the Lewes bonfire celebrations.
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Post by crowey on Mar 28, 2017 13:27:40 GMT
Nigel Farage reminds me of Enoch Powell. He also said a lot of things others didn't have the balls for
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 28, 2017 13:33:04 GMT
From my experience they put them up there to knock them down. Yesterday was a good example on the Daily politics show where Jo Coburn constantly interrupted the UKIP speaker and let the others continue to have there say.
In terms of statics being skewed weren't UKIP the largest party at the last European elections?
If you think there's a BBC love in with UKIP you're wide of the mark or in love with fake news.
I'm sure loads of other unelected politicians would love to have the oppurtunity to get knocked down. In reality that "knocking down" is usually just somebody asking for some evidence of their often-spurious claims.
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Post by felonious on Mar 28, 2017 19:46:04 GMT
From my experience they put them up there to knock them down. Yesterday was a good example on the Daily politics show where Jo Coburn constantly interrupted the UKIP speaker and let the others continue to have there say.
In terms of statics being skewed weren't UKIP the largest party at the last European elections?
If you think there's a BBC love in with UKIP you're wide of the mark or in love with fake news.
I'm sure loads of other unelected politicians would love to have the oppurtunity to get knocked down. In reality that "knocking down" is usually just somebody asking for some evidence of their often-spurious claims. The UKIP chap I was referring to was elected as are most of the people invited on to the BBC. Farage is an elected MEP. You can't give an opinion easily when you are subject to constant interuptions from presenters. There was an old seventies clip on here a week or so back and I made the point that it was a pleasure to hear opinions from both sides of an argument. I don't vote UKIP but it's thanks to them that after finally waiting 40 years we got the promised vote on the EU.
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