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Post by leoncort on Mar 31, 2017 9:04:17 GMT
Beyond a joke, yet the players that get the most criticism on here would run through walls to get on the pitch. Walters, Whelan, Shawcross. Time for Shaq to go if he cant sort this out, either that or play our home games in zurich, hes fine over there..
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 31, 2017 9:08:05 GMT
A supreme talent on his day who needs to be fucked off at the earliest opportunity if we can.
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Post by ysc1 on Mar 31, 2017 9:08:28 GMT
Fucking joke this is now. Fuck him off
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Mar 31, 2017 10:48:35 GMT
One of our better players,but he is stealing a living at the moment,if we could get 30 plus games out of him a season,then keep,but its looking very unlikely that will ever happen,so get the most amount of money we can for him,and get rid.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 10:52:48 GMT
09:39 TEAM NEWS MH: Xherdan Shaqiri unfortunately. He wanted to be part of the squad against Chelsea but I thought it would only be from the bench and it could be risky. We thought the international game a week down the line would help his progress...
We've got to get to the bottom of these calf problems. It's a little bit of a concern to be perfectly honest. At the moment when he steps things up he gets set-backs.
I don't think he'll need an operation. He gets a bit of discomfort. He's got to have the means to be able to overcome that.
When you go away with international squads, it can be short-term thinking rather than long-term. Maybe that's compromised him a little. Doing different things, with a different group.
We don't anticipate it will be too long. He won't be available for Burnley but maybe Liverpool.
Read more at www.stokesentinel.co.uk/stoke-city-news-transfer-rumours-live-shaq-future-doubts-berahino-drugs-claim-potters-fight-on/story-30240557-detail/story.html#HUSwEmoKckR7pI4c.99 Well there's my smoke and mirrors theory up the spout. Can see this weekend being a right blast.... ;D
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 31, 2017 11:12:16 GMT
09:39 TEAM NEWS MH: Xherdan Shaqiri unfortunately. He wanted to be part of the squad against Chelsea but I thought it would only be from the bench and it could be risky. We thought the international game a week down the line would help his progress...
We've got to get to the bottom of these calf problems. It's a little bit of a concern to be perfectly honest. At the moment when he steps things up he gets set-backs.
I don't think he'll need an operation. He gets a bit of discomfort. He's got to have the means to be able to overcome that.
When you go away with international squads, it can be short-term thinking rather than long-term. Maybe that's compromised him a little. Doing different things, with a different group.
We don't anticipate it will be too long. He won't be available for Burnley but maybe Liverpool.
Read more at www.stokesentinel.co.uk/stoke-city-news-transfer-rumours-live-shaq-future-doubts-berahino-drugs-claim-potters-fight-on/story-30240557-detail/story.html#HUSwEmoKckR7pI4c.99 Truly farcical.
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Post by abhill on Mar 31, 2017 11:43:48 GMT
Only player I have ever seen run off to be substituted because of a calf injury.Can't remember which game.
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Post by bringmesunshine on Mar 31, 2017 12:40:53 GMT
In 15-16 he played 32 out of a possible 46 and in 16-17 when he misses the next 2 games before we play Liverpool he will have played 15 out of a possible 34, so over two seasons he will have played 56% of all matches. Playing only half the games in a season is a statistic that says its time to say goodbye and sell him for what ever we can get as far as I'm concerned and as we bought him for £12m perhaps we should be happy to get £6m for him.
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Post by bringmesunshine on Mar 31, 2017 12:43:18 GMT
Only player I have ever seen run off to be substituted because of a calf injury.Can't remember which game. I think it was just before Christmas in 2015 and I remember the reaction he got, Hughes wasn't very happy at all.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 31, 2017 13:33:08 GMT
he was a good player with FC Basel but it seems he wants to leave Stoke
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Post by woodin43 on Mar 31, 2017 14:02:50 GMT
And I got shit binned for having a go at him for his lack of consistency last season. How times change.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 14:11:53 GMT
And I got shit binned for having a go at him for his lack of consistency last season. How times change. I mean, he's now injured, which has nothing to do with what you said.
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Post by superheroantonius on Mar 31, 2017 14:56:01 GMT
Arnie and Ramadan are better
Bye !
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Post by dadofsam on Mar 31, 2017 15:10:04 GMT
So he doesn't play because of "a bit of discomfort" - we tend not to accept that as an excuse in these parts
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Post by jezzascfc on Mar 31, 2017 15:18:43 GMT
When your heart is not in it, it is easy to pull out due to a "little niggle." I get the feeling, no matter what he says, that he simply doesn't really want to be here.
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Mar 31, 2017 15:23:56 GMT
I'd expect a professional player to play through 'some discomfort' personally but having said that, does he want to? I think not.
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Post by drfootball on Mar 31, 2017 15:32:31 GMT
Perhaps if all he got paid whilst off sick was UK statutory sick pay it might motivate him a little.Clearly not a player with much heart and none of it in Stoke City,fuck him off and get someone in who actually wants to be here.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 31, 2017 15:41:07 GMT
really is taking the piss now...not fit enough to play for us for weeks then goes away to play for his country quite happily, doing bicycle kicks in training now all of sudden "Oooh mark, it hurts a little bit. Can i have the week off....again but still get paid £60k please?"
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Mar 31, 2017 18:43:59 GMT
The guy is a joke, taking the piss out of our club for too long now. Fed up with the pathetic excuses week after week with him. He's not injured at all. Does he have a strain? No. Does he have a tear? No. There's nothing wrong at all.
I had some tightness in my calves a couple of months ago. Kept coming on after a couple of miles of running. A week off running, a bit more stretching and foam rollering and its totally disappeared. This prick can't even manage 45 mins of less intense activity on grass!!
Fuck him off!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 18:49:53 GMT
The guy is a joke, taking the piss out of our club for too long now. Fed up with the pathetic excuses week after week with him. He's not injured at all. Does he have a strain? No. Does he have a tear? No. There's nothing wrong at all. I had some tightness in my calves a couple of months ago. Kept coming on after a couple of miles of running. A week off running, a bit more stretching and foam rollering and its totally disappeared. This prick can't even manage 45 mins of less intense activity on grass!! Fuck him off! Premier league football is less intense than you running? Add onto that that his injury might be a more long term problem possibly? I will reserve judgement on calling him a joke until i actually know. That said his injuries are a worry, but the 'fuck him off, he hates stoke' knee jerk reaction is utterly ridiculous.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 18:54:01 GMT
So Shaq wanted to play the last Stoke game but was pulled away from it and told to prove his fitness for Switzerland first before being considered for Stoke. (Bowen)
He plays for Switzerland, 65 mins? No hint of him coming off injured, or was there?
Now he's suddenly back here and injured again.
He wants to play, something just isn't right.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 31, 2017 19:08:02 GMT
The guy is a joke, taking the piss out of our club for too long now. Fed up with the pathetic excuses week after week with him. He's not injured at all. Does he have a strain? No. Does he have a tear? No. There's nothing wrong at all. I had some tightness in my calves a couple of months ago. Kept coming on after a couple of miles of running. A week off running, a bit more stretching and foam rollering and its totally disappeared. This prick can't even manage 45 mins of less intense activity on grass!! Fuck him off! Premier league football is less intense than you running? Add onto that that his injury might be a more long term problem possibly? I will reserve judgement on calling him a joke until i actually know. That said his injuries are a worry, but the 'fuck him off, he hates stoke' knee jerk reaction is utterly ridiculous. I know what you're saying but Hughes has basically said it isn't a major injury and certainly won't need surgery and it's up to him (Shaq) to find a means of sorting it. It's pretty much a more polite way of saying what Klopp did about Sturridge when he basically called him a fanny for not being able to put up with a bit of pain every now and again. Certainly very different from the excuses he's made for him in the past! And when it's been soooo many fucking weeks but he's happy to post vids of himself doing bicycle kicks on international duty just last week i fail to see how you can call it "knee jerk". Let's not pretend it's a one off or a rare occurrence. How many more weeks and how many more excuses can we give him exactly? We're using a squad place and a bloody good wage we could be using on someone else on a player who doesn't fucking play mate. Having to piss around with team selection and routines a day or so before a game every bloody week because Shaq's decided he isn't 100% is hardly getting a good team dynamic together is it? I'd rather have a player who's not quite as good but can get a good understanding and relationship with the team week in, week out than keep a player who only plays every now and again, regardless of how good he is.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 19:21:43 GMT
Premier league football is less intense than you running? Add onto that that his injury might be a more long term problem possibly? I will reserve judgement on calling him a joke until i actually know. That said his injuries are a worry, but the 'fuck him off, he hates stoke' knee jerk reaction is utterly ridiculous. I know what you're saying but Hughes has basically said it isn't a major injury and certainly won't need surgery and it's up to him (Shaq) to find a means of sorting it. It's pretty much a more polite way of saying what Klopp did about Sturridge when he basically called him a fanny for not being able to put up with a bit of pain every now and again. Certainly very different from the excuses he's made for him in the past! And when it's been soooo many fucking weeks but he's happy to post vids of himself doing bicycle kicks on international duty just last week i fail to see how you can call it "knee jerk". Let's not pretend it's a one off or a rare occurrence. How many more weeks and how many more excuses can we give him exactly? We're using a squad place and a bloody good wage we could be using on someone else on a player who doesn't fucking play mate. Having to piss around with team selection and routines a day or so before a game every bloody week because Shaq's decided he isn't 100% is hardly getting a good team dynamic together is it? I'd rather have a player who's not quite as good but can get a good understanding and relationship with the team week in, week out than keep a player who only plays every now and again, regardless of how good he is. He had niggles last year but they tended not to be for long periods, to me the fact he's been out for so many weeks now makes me think its a long term injury that keeps recurring. Don't forget Butland was in training for quite a while before he pulled out against Boro, and the same before the U23 game. I read what hughes said as a 'He's getting niggles and we need to find the cause, but we don't think it's anything too serious'. Players have them all the time, its a worry, but Shaqiri is too good to not give time. We have Ramadan, so it's not like we're completely desperate to have him back. We give him as long as it takes to find the root cause, if we don't find anything and he's pulling out of a majority of games by mid next-season, possibly think about getting rid then.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 31, 2017 19:28:34 GMT
I know what you're saying but Hughes has basically said it isn't a major injury and certainly won't need surgery and it's up to him (Shaq) to find a means of sorting it. It's pretty much a more polite way of saying what Klopp did about Sturridge when he basically called him a fanny for not being able to put up with a bit of pain every now and again. Certainly very different from the excuses he's made for him in the past! And when it's been soooo many fucking weeks but he's happy to post vids of himself doing bicycle kicks on international duty just last week i fail to see how you can call it "knee jerk". Let's not pretend it's a one off or a rare occurrence. How many more weeks and how many more excuses can we give him exactly? We're using a squad place and a bloody good wage we could be using on someone else on a player who doesn't fucking play mate. Having to piss around with team selection and routines a day or so before a game every bloody week because Shaq's decided he isn't 100% is hardly getting a good team dynamic together is it? I'd rather have a player who's not quite as good but can get a good understanding and relationship with the team week in, week out than keep a player who only plays every now and again, regardless of how good he is. He had niggles last year but they tended not to be for long periods, to me the fact he's been out for so many weeks now makes me think its a long term injury that keeps recurring. Don't forget Butland was in training for quite a while before he pulled out against Boro, and the same before the U23 game. I read what hughes said as a 'He's getting niggles and we need to find the cause, but we don't think it's anything too serious'. Players have them all the time, its a worry, but Shaqiri is too good to not give time. We have Ramadan, so it's not like we're completely desperate to have him back. We give him as long as it takes to find the root cause, if we don't find anything and he's pulling out of a majority of games by mid next-season, possibly think about getting rid then. The Sentinel article last week gave the impression we're probably past that stage though. I think Hughes has already made the call to reluctantly wash his hands of him this summer. The only thing that could save him is the sheer number of other people who'll be departing - Given, Haugaard, Wollscheid, Johnson, Muniesa, Imbula, Adam, Ireland, Joselu, Bojan, Bony.....
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 31, 2017 19:31:12 GMT
I know what you'2re saying but Hughes has basically said it isn't a major injury and certainly won't need surgery and it's up to him (Shaq) to find a means of sorting it. It's pretty much a more polite way of saying what Klopp did about Sturridge when he basically called him a fanny for not being able to put up with a bit of pain every now and again. Certainly very different from the excuses he's made for him in the past! And when it's been soooo many fucking weeks but he's happy to post vids of himself doing bicycle kicks on international duty just last week i fail to see how you can call it "knee jerk". Let's not pretend it's a one off or a rare occurrence. How many more weeks and how many more excuses can we give him exactly? We're using a squad place and a bloody good wage we could be using on someone else on a player who doesn't fucking play mate. Having to piss around with team selection and routines a day or so before a game every bloody week because Shaq's decided he isn't 100% is hardly getting a good team dynamic together is it? I'd rather have a player who's not quite as good but can get a good understanding and relationship with the team week in, week out than keep a player who only plays every now and again, regardless of how good he is. He had niggles last year but they tended not to be for long periods, to me the fact he's been out for so many weeks now makes me think its a long term injury that keeps recurring. Don't forget Butland was in training for quite a while before he pulled out against Boro, and the same before the U23 game. I read what hughes said as a 'He's getting niggles and we need to find the cause, but we don't think it's anything too serious'. Players have them all the time, its a worry, but Shaqiri is too good to not give time. We have Ramadan, so it's not like we're completely desperate to have him back. We give him as long as it takes to find the root cause, if we don't find anything and he's pulling out of a majority of games by mid next-season, possibly think about getting rid then. Do you genuinely not find it strange that he hasn't been fit enough to manage a single minute for us since January, yet was fine to be pulling off bicycle kicks in training and then last 80 mins just last week for Switzerland and now all of a sudden is injured again, presumably caused simply by training given the fact there was nothing about any niggles when he returned? Surely you can see why people are starting to lose patience rapidly? Even if you don't agree with them, to call it "knee jerk" is just daft.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Mar 31, 2017 19:43:25 GMT
I've said it for a while now.
Get rid.
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Mar 31, 2017 21:03:51 GMT
The guy is a joke, taking the piss out of our club for too long now. Fed up with the pathetic excuses week after week with him. He's not injured at all. Does he have a strain? No. Does he have a tear? No. There's nothing wrong at all. I had some tightness in my calves a couple of months ago. Kept coming on after a couple of miles of running. A week off running, a bit more stretching and foam rollering and its totally disappeared. This prick can't even manage 45 mins of less intense activity on grass!! Fuck him off! Premier league football is less intense than you running? Add onto that that his injury might be a more long term problem possibly? I will reserve judgement on calling him a joke until i actually know. That said his injuries are a worry, but the 'fuck him off, he hates stoke' knee jerk reaction is utterly ridiculous. 7 minute miles on concrete/tarmac is more strenuous on the muscles/joints than 2x45 minutes on grass doing occasional sprints and hiding in the middle of the pitch. I run further in 45 mins than the alpine Messi does in 90 (if he can complete a game that is). By the time he's back on the grass, he'll have missed 3 months of football despite not actually being properly injured. The guy is a fraudster!
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Post by padders01 on Mar 31, 2017 21:15:15 GMT
A supreme talent on his day who needs to be fucked off at the earliest opportunity if we can. 100% this
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Post by Trouserdog on Mar 31, 2017 21:39:00 GMT
I wonder if he puts a 'poorly voice' on when he speaks to Hughesy about his fucking calves?
Anything over £10m and we have to ship him out.
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Post by muglump on Apr 1, 2017 7:22:14 GMT
International football is not played with the intensity of the prem. That said there is no point paying someone to do something he can't do, however good at it he might be.
China or the states for him i reckon where he can do some tricks at a lesser pace. There is something wrong either in his head or his calves. Enormous shame, i like watching him play
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