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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 13, 2017 22:37:58 GMT
It is odd. And it was since Hughes made the comment about the Chinese club.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 13, 2017 22:43:44 GMT
It's an absolutely bizzare situation and one I really cannot understand.Yes he's had poor games but to freeze him out when you consider how much we're paying for him is very very strange.
He had a few decent games and some where he was bone idle but surely if he's training well he's got to be on the bench.
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Post by stokefc on Mar 13, 2017 22:44:23 GMT
isn,t he , well he wants to pull his finger out and show some grit and determination and when/if he gets his chance show us what he is capable of
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Post by samba :) on Mar 13, 2017 22:45:02 GMT
He isn't a happy bony at the minute
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Post by entropy92 on Mar 13, 2017 22:49:21 GMT
Couldnt give a toss. I had high hopes for him at the start but now realise hes a player that needs a team who will fit around his needs like Swansea did. The sooner he gets transfered back to Easter Island the better.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Mar 13, 2017 22:50:20 GMT
Agitating for a move. Ha ha.
Lacking a bit of self awareness here Wilf.
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Post by sonichuth on Mar 13, 2017 22:51:41 GMT
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Post by crownmeking on Mar 13, 2017 22:53:45 GMT
It's an absolutely bizzare situation and one I really cannot understand.Yes he's had poor games but to freeze him out when you consider how much we're paying for him is very very strange. He had a few decent games and some where he was bone idle but surely if he's training well he's got to be on the bench. And if Hughes continued to give him chances, and he didn't do any better, you'd having a go about it... Can't have it all ways. |
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Post by crownmeking on Mar 13, 2017 22:56:33 GMT
It is odd. And it was since Hughes made the comment about the Chinese club. Hardly done himself any favors with that interview. He can fuck off. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 13, 2017 23:00:02 GMT
It's an absolutely bizzare situation and one I really cannot understand.Yes he's had poor games but to freeze him out when you consider how much we're paying for him is very very strange. He had a few decent games and some where he was bone idle but surely if he's training well he's got to be on the bench. And if Hughes continued to give him chances, and he didn't do any better, you'd having a go about it... Can't have it all ways. I certainly wouldn't,I cannot believe what we're paying a player not to be involved that's all |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 13, 2017 23:00:45 GMT
It is odd. And it was since Hughes made the comment about the Chinese club. Hardly done himself any favors with that interview. He can fuck off. I think he raises some good points tbh. And what it does highlight is that the squad is too big. We've got people who want to keep Adam as a squad player when every central midfielder we have is a bastard squad player. We have to be cleverer with the make up of the squad than we are now with this harem scarem approach we've taken. |
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Post by arniepieinthesky on Mar 13, 2017 23:06:02 GMT
Crouch as risen to the top of the pile
Berahino finally signs
So based on the two above things NOT happening, he would still be in contention. BUT, they have happened and he's not taken his chance with the 12-14 games her had. Tough shit, it's not worked out. Move on..
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Post by samba :) on Mar 13, 2017 23:06:50 GMT
He's shit.
Swansea played the right game for him
He rarely scored in one of the best teams in the country
Now he's here and he has scored two.
We did drop him at a very weird time though, just as it could of got a bit better
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 13, 2017 23:07:10 GMT
Crouch as risen to the top of the pile Berahino finally signs So based on the two above things NOT happening, he would still be in contention. BUT, they have happened and he's not taken his chance with the 12-14 games her had. Tough shit, it's not worked out. Move on.. Another striker that has not worked out under the current manager. There's a bit of a pattern there. |
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Post by liamo on Mar 13, 2017 23:13:28 GMT
Don't really understand the thought process in bringing him here, right now he's right in between plan A and plan B and we have no idea how or when to play him
Not fast enough to play on the counter, doesn't hold the ball up enough to be a target man, throw him on the list of players that we've accumulated that don't really fit in to any style we play but are here regardless
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Post by crownmeking on Mar 13, 2017 23:13:52 GMT
Hardly done himself any favors with that interview. He can fuck off. I think he raises some good points tbh. And what it does highlight is that the squad is too big. We've got people who want to keep Adam as a squad player when every central midfielder we have is a bastard squad player. We have to be cleverer with the make up of the squad than we are now with this harem scarem approach we've taken. I don't think he raises any good points at all. He had his chance and wasn't able to take it... Crouch did! You bitched about Coates speaking out when he did, but nothing to say about Bony opening his trap? And don't forget, you've only heard one side of the story, Hughes hasn't commented. |
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Post by crownmeking on Mar 13, 2017 23:15:02 GMT
Don't really understand the thought process in bringing him here, right now he's right in between plan A and plan B and we have no idea how or when to play him Not fast enough to play on the counter, doesn't hold the ball up enough to be a target man, throw him on the list of players that we've accumulated that don't really fit in to any style we play but are here regardless Nah mate, he came here for a chance, just like every other player... He couldn't take his chance, the manager is not to blame for that. |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Mar 13, 2017 23:15:51 GMT
Crouch as risen to the top of the pile Berahino finally signs So based on the two above things NOT happening, he would still be in contention. BUT, they have happened and he's not taken his chance with the 12-14 games her had. Tough shit, it's not worked out. Move on.. Another striker that has not worked out under the current manager. There's a bit of a pattern there. Saw a clip of Hughes and Gullit earlier in Chell shirts. Do you think he's been setting the bar too high perhaps? |
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Post by crownmeking on Mar 13, 2017 23:17:30 GMT
And if Hughes continued to give him chances, and he didn't do any better, you'd having a go about it... Can't have it all ways. I certainly wouldn't,I cannot believe what we're paying a player not to be involved that's all A lot of players are paid but don't make the starting 11 or even the bench... Bony had his chance and didn't take it. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 13, 2017 23:18:37 GMT
I think he raises some good points tbh. And what it does highlight is that the squad is too big. We've got people who want to keep Adam as a squad player when every central midfielder we have is a bastard squad player. We have to be cleverer with the make up of the squad than we are now with this harem scarem approach we've taken. I don't think he raises any good points at all. He had his chance and wasn't able to take it... Crouch did! You bitched about Coates speaking out when he did, but nothing to say about Boney opening his trap? And don't forget, you've only heard one side of the story, Hughes hasn't commented. I don't mind players speaking. I don't think Chairmen should ever speak about the actual football. It's not their place to talk He had a chance and he did ok. He was great, he wasn't as bad as people said he was. Being unceremoniously dropped and forgotten and not being used from the bench before Christmas was odd though. It just highlights a few massive weaknesses with the current manager for me. 1) no thought when building the squad 2) poor use of the squad 3) not having a clue about how to get the best out of his strikers. Which given his former career is odd itself! |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 13, 2017 23:21:45 GMT
Another striker that has not worked out under the current manager. There's a bit of a pattern there. Saw a clip of Hughes and Gullit earlier in Chell shirts. Do you think he's been setting the bar too high perhaps? I think he hasn't got a clue how to use the players he's bought for the position. Not one of his signings for up front has either worked or been used correctly. Diouf has been criminally used. Wingie was best on the wing. Bony just didn't work to the level we hoped he would. Joselu was barely given a chance. Guidetti was played on the wing or in midfield. Has there been another one bar Berahino? Hopefully Berahino breaks the mould. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 13, 2017 23:23:28 GMT
I certainly wouldn't,I cannot believe what we're paying a player not to be involved that's all A lot of players are paid but don't make the starting 11 or even the bench... Bony had his chance and didn't take it. You could argue that point though because he started every game in a 10 point haul out of 12 in Oct/Nov against Sunderland,Hull,Swansea and West Ham |
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Post by crownmeking on Mar 13, 2017 23:23:39 GMT
I don't think he raises any good points at all. He had his chance and wasn't able to take it... Crouch did! You bitched about Coates speaking out when he did, but nothing to say about Boney opening his trap? And don't forget, you've only heard one side of the story, Hughes hasn't commented. I don't mind players speaking. I don't think Chairmen should ever speak about the actual football. It's not their place to talk He had a chance and he did ok. He was great, he wasn't as bad as people said he was. Being unceremoniously dropped and forgotten and not being used from the bench before Christmas was odd though. It just highlights a few massive weaknesses with the current manager for me. 1) no thought when building the squad 2) poor use of the squad 3) not having a clue about how to get the best out of his strikers. Which given his former career is odd itself! I don't agree with players speaking out in the way he has. He did less than ok when he had his chances, he simply wasn't good enough, and if Hughes had persisted with him without improvement, we would all be going mad about it. He wasn't terrible, but was clearly off the pace. I think the weakness is with the player not the manager in this situation. |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Mar 13, 2017 23:24:17 GMT
I don't think he raises any good points at all. He had his chance and wasn't able to take it... Crouch did! You bitched about Coates speaking out when he did, but nothing to say about Boney opening his trap? And don't forget, you've only heard one side of the story, Hughes hasn't commented. I don't mind players speaking. I don't think Chairmen should ever speak about the actual football. It's not their place to talk He had a chance and he did ok. He was great, he wasn't as bad as people said he was. Being unceremoniously dropped and forgotten and not being used from the bench before Christmas was odd though. It just highlights a few massive weaknesses with the current manager for me. 1) no thought when building the squad 2) poor use of the squad 3) not having a clue about how to get the best out of his strikers. Which given his former career is odd itself! Blinkered mate. What ceremony should we have put on for the 'dropping of Bony'. Voodoo juju etc. |
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Post by tesco85 on Mar 13, 2017 23:24:26 GMT
Hughes shouldnt of signed him. I knew this would happen
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Post by crownmeking on Mar 13, 2017 23:25:21 GMT
Hughes shouldnt of signed him. I knew this would happen Of course you did. |
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Post by crownmeking on Mar 13, 2017 23:26:24 GMT
A lot of players are paid but don't make the starting 11 or even the bench... Bony had his chance and didn't take it. You could argue that point though because he started every game in a 10 point haul out of 12 in Oct/Nov against Sunderland,Hull,Swansea and West Ham Just because he played in those games does not mean he took his chances... We both know he didn't. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 13, 2017 23:26:30 GMT
I don't mind players speaking. I don't think Chairmen should ever speak about the actual football. It's not their place to talk He had a chance and he did ok. He was great, he wasn't as bad as people said he was. Being unceremoniously dropped and forgotten and not being used from the bench before Christmas was odd though. It just highlights a few massive weaknesses with the current manager for me. 1) no thought when building the squad 2) poor use of the squad 3) not having a clue about how to get the best out of his strikers. Which given his former career is odd itself! I don't agree with players speaking out in the way he has. He did less than ok when he had his chances, he simply wasn't good enough, and if Hughes had persisted with him without improvement, we would all be going mad about it. He wasn't terrible, but was clearly off the pace. I think the weakness is with the player not the manager in this situation. And I disagree.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 23:26:57 GMT
Does he train well though?
He says he works hard when he plays and thats complete and utter horse shit.
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Post by crownmeking on Mar 13, 2017 23:27:03 GMT
I don't agree with players speaking out in the way he has. He did less than ok when he had his chances, he simply wasn't good enough, and if Hughes had persisted with him without improvement, we would all be going mad about it. He wasn't terrible, but was clearly off the pace. I think the weakness is with the player not the manager in this situation. And I disagree. I thought you might  |
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