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Post by raythesailor on Mar 9, 2017 18:15:33 GMT
24 hrs after Hammond announced his first budget I am supprised that there has been no comments or discussions on here.
Is this because it was relatively un controversial, with no increases in alcohol and petrol ?
The media are also struggling to find much to say except for the increase in NIC for self employed people. I was suprised to hear that the " Self Employed" only constitute 15pc of the work force.
Is he saving more surprises for the Autum following the triggering of Brexit article 50 ?
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 9, 2017 18:56:38 GMT
24 hrs after Hammond announced his first budget I am supprised that there has been no comments or discussions on here. Is this because it was relatively un controversial, with no increases in alcohol and petrol ? The media are also struggling to find much to say except for the increase in NIC for self employed people. I was suprised to hear that the " Self Employed" only constitute 15pc of the work force. Is he saving more surprises for the Autum following the triggering of Brexit article 50 ? Yes, I get the feeling any, more substantial changes are being lined up for the autumn. We'll get a better idea how pound sterling has fared and what the B.o.E. is going to do? If inflation exceeds 2% the B.o.E. has a remit to alter interest rates if deemed necessary? |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 9, 2017 19:45:31 GMT
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Post by stockportstokie on Mar 9, 2017 20:24:09 GMT
Pulis out
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 20:59:22 GMT
Can anyone explain what's happening on the road tax front. Read summat in the paper today, but wasn't quite sure what it means regarding said tax. £140 mentioned.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 9, 2017 22:21:57 GMT
The 'real' budget has been moved to the Autumn to allow more time before the end of the tax year for individuals and business' to implement any new legislation. The legislation regarding NI that came out of the manifesto pledge did not include self-employed NI. This has been an option for a while. Why not? Self employed paying 9% NI and employed paying 12%. (Up to 43K) An extra 60p a day or about £240 a year. Just have to declare one of those weekend foreigners  |
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 10, 2017 7:09:37 GMT
The 'real' budget has been moved to the Autumn to allow more time before the end of the tax year for individuals and business' to implement any new legislation. The legislation regarding NI that came out of the manifesto pledge did not include self-employed NI. This has been an option for a while. Why not? Self employed paying 9% NI and employed paying 12%. (Up to 43K) An extra 60p a day or about £240 a year. Just have to declare one of those weekend foreigners It does seem a lot of fuss over £20 a week for most people espicially when the money is going straight to social care. It's almost like all these print and TV journalists are self employed or trading through companies and are deeply unhappy about having to pay a bit more than £20 per week And I speak as someone who will be worse off due to the dividend allowance cut. |
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Post by felonious on Mar 10, 2017 7:22:37 GMT
The 'real' budget has been moved to the Autumn to allow more time before the end of the tax year for individuals and business' to implement any new legislation. The legislation regarding NI that came out of the manifesto pledge did not include self-employed NI. This has been an option for a while. Why not? Self employed paying 9% NI and employed paying 12%. (Up to 43K) An extra 60p a day or about £240 a year. Just have to declare one of those weekend foreigners The self employed do indeed pay 9% Class 4 NIC but they also pay Class 2 NIC currently £145.60 per annum. This is being phased out but will now be replaced by the extra NIC charges. NIC starts at a slightly earlier income band for self employed people. In effect there's not a huge amount of difference between the two at the minimum wage levels. |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 10, 2017 7:23:05 GMT
The 'real' budget has been moved to the Autumn to allow more time before the end of the tax year for individuals and business' to implement any new legislation. The legislation regarding NI that came out of the manifesto pledge did not include self-employed NI. This has been an option for a while. Why not? Self employed paying 9% NI and employed paying 12%. (Up to 43K) An extra 60p a day or about £240 a year. Just have to declare one of those weekend foreigners Well, Dr Goebbels you're living up to your epithet! M/s May has delayed implementation(if at all) till the autumn and there was no such small print in the Tory manifesto about self-employed N.I.! It was a clear, unequivocal statement about NO tax rises! At the same time you forgot to add that M/s May's Brexit means Brexit also means a £60billion bill. No wonder M/s May was a Remainer! Mr Hammond might have joked about Labour and driverless technology but given M/s May's disappearing act during the Referendum I am surprised he wanted to increase N.I. for self-employed magicians who disappear so easily and readily?! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 8:15:12 GMT
I remember that.....I remember David Cameron giving that promise. Giving his "personal promise" That's David Cameron not Theresa May Fraise (Self employed for over 30 yrs) |
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 10, 2017 8:43:58 GMT
The 'real' budget has been moved to the Autumn to allow more time before the end of the tax year for individuals and business' to implement any new legislation. The legislation regarding NI that came out of the manifesto pledge did not include self-employed NI. This has been an option for a while. Why not? Self employed paying 9% NI and employed paying 12%. (Up to 43K) An extra 60p a day or about £240 a year. Just have to declare one of those weekend foreigners Well, Dr Goebbels you're living up to your epithet! M/s May has delayed implementation(if at all) till the autumn and there was no such small print in the Tory manifesto about self-employed N.I.! It was a clear, unequivocal statement about NO tax rises! At the same time you forgot to add that M/s May's Brexit means Brexit also means a £60billion bill. No wonder M/s May was a Remainer! Mr Hammond might have joked about Labour and driverless technology but given M/s May's disappearing act during the Referendum I am surprised he wanted to increase N.I. for self-employed magicians who disappear so easily and readily?! You may wish to check the opinion of the House of Lords on the £60 billion Brexit bill, there is no legal basis or requirement for the UK to pay a penny to the EU. So off the EU can fuck  |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 10, 2017 11:30:45 GMT
Well, Dr Goebbels you're living up to your epithet! M/s May has delayed implementation(if at all) till the autumn and there was no such small print in the Tory manifesto about self-employed N.I.! It was a clear, unequivocal statement about NO tax rises! At the same time you forgot to add that M/s May's Brexit means Brexit also means a £60billion bill. No wonder M/s May was a Remainer! Mr Hammond might have joked about Labour and driverless technology but given M/s May's disappearing act during the Referendum I am surprised he wanted to increase N.I. for self-employed magicians who disappear so easily and readily?! You may wish to check the opinion of the House of Lords on the £60 billion Brexit bill, there is no legal basis or requirement for the UK to pay a penny to the EU. So off the EU can fuck But we don't negotiate negotiate 'Brexit' with the HoL but with the E.U.. Incidentally, some of that money is for British E.U. civil servants pensions. Are you telling them to fuck off?! |
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 10, 2017 12:22:52 GMT
You may wish to check the opinion of the House of Lords on the £60 billion Brexit bill, there is no legal basis or requirement for the UK to pay a penny to the EU. So off the EU can fuck But we don't negotiate negotiate 'Brexit' with the HoL but with the E.U.. Incidentally, some of that money is for British E.U. civil servants pensions. Are you telling them to fuck off?! And you don't need to negotiate at all if you have a watertight contract which the EU don't obviously hence them trying to negotiate over something there is absolutely no legal basis that the UK has to pay. As for pensions it's a simple matter of employment law \ contract and my guess is that these contracts are with the EU so the EU is liable and will have to pay. Now pensions for ex-EU british civil servants is something that would seem fair for the UK to pay but if the EU doesn't want to play nicely, legally there is no requirement to do so. |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 10, 2017 12:51:04 GMT
But we don't negotiate negotiate 'Brexit' with the HoL but with the E.U.. Incidentally, some of that money is for British E.U. civil servants pensions. Are you telling them to fuck off?! And you don't need to negotiate at all if you have a watertight contract which the EU don't obviously hence them trying to negotiate over something there is absolutely no legal basis that the UK has to pay. As for pensions it's a simple matter of employment law \ contract and my guess is that these contracts are with the EU so the EU is liable and will have to pay. Now pensions for ex-EU british civil servants is something that would seem fair for the UK to pay but if the EU doesn't want to play nicely, legally there is no requirement to do so. But we're negotiating trade deals with financial implications. The higher the tariffs the less we trade and the more business the E.U. retains. This has massive financial effects far more than the £60 billion pounds. And yes the E.U. negotiates this deal not the HoL! |
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 10, 2017 13:21:59 GMT
And you don't need to negotiate at all if you have a watertight contract which the EU don't obviously hence them trying to negotiate over something there is absolutely no legal basis that the UK has to pay. As for pensions it's a simple matter of employment law \ contract and my guess is that these contracts are with the EU so the EU is liable and will have to pay. Now pensions for ex-EU british civil servants is something that would seem fair for the UK to pay but if the EU doesn't want to play nicely, legally there is no requirement to do so. But we're negotiating trade deals with financial implications. The higher the tariffs the less we trade and the more business the E.U. retains. This has massive financial effects far more than the £60 billion pounds. And yes the E.U. negotiates this deal not the HoL! No the higher the tariffs means the higher the price how that effects trade or sales depends on the price elasticity of demand but bearing in mind the EU sells far more to the UK than it buys from the UK, it will harm itself far more than it harms the UK so it's their move and the Germans have already pointed out to the EU it is ridiculous to expect the UK to agree a €60 billion bill first without knowing how the final deal will look. |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 10, 2017 14:13:29 GMT
But we're negotiating trade deals with financial implications. The higher the tariffs the less we trade and the more business the E.U. retains. This has massive financial effects far more than the £60 billion pounds. And yes the E.U. negotiates this deal not the HoL! No the higher the tariffs means the higher the price how that effects trade or sales depends on the price elasticity of demand but bearing in mind the EU sells far more to the UK than it buys from the UK, it will harm itself far more than it harms the UK so it's their move and the Germans have already pointed out to the EU it is ridiculous to expect the UK to agree a €60 billion bill first without knowing how the final deal will look. No, you're wrong! The proportion of E.U. goods/services coming to the U.K. is significantly lower as a percentage of their exports than vice versa! It is the U.K. that is in a weaker position as every European politician, newspaper has pointed out! Nobody has tried to paint this as a some sort of bill more than you Tories as you're hoping to paint any reduction as a 'victory'! In fact, the figure will indeed be worked out and negotiated on. However, it puts us in a weaker position negotiating everything else including trade! When Article 50 is triggered we will have left the E.U. and our bargaining position will be far weaker? You've got far less leverage when you are outside the club than when you are in it? Probably the reason why M/s May was a Remainer sic 'Remain means Brexit'?!' Haha! Haha! |
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Post by boothenboy75 on Mar 10, 2017 16:07:17 GMT
No the higher the tariffs means the higher the price how that effects trade or sales depends on the price elasticity of demand but bearing in mind the EU sells far more to the UK than it buys from the UK, it will harm itself far more than it harms the UK so it's their move and the Germans have already pointed out to the EU it is ridiculous to expect the UK to agree a €60 billion bill first without knowing how the final deal will look. No, you're wrong! The proportion of E.U. goods/services coming to the U.K. is significantly lower as a percentage of their exports than vice versa! It is the U.K. that is in a weaker position as every European politician, newspaper has pointed out! Nobody has tried to paint this as a some sort of bill more than you Tories as you're hoping to paint any reduction as a 'victory'! In fact, the figure will indeed be worked out and negotiated on. However, it puts us in a weaker position negotiating everything else including trade! When Article 50 is triggered we will have left the E.U. and our bargaining position will be far weaker? You've got far less leverage when you are outside the club than when you are in it? Probably the reason why M/s May was a Remainer sic 'Remain means Brexit'?!' Haha! Haha! |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 10, 2017 16:16:46 GMT
No, you're wrong! The proportion of E.U. goods/services coming to the U.K. is significantly lower as a percentage of their exports than vice versa! It is the U.K. that is in a weaker position as every European politician, newspaper has pointed out! Nobody has tried to paint this as a some sort of bill more than you Tories as you're hoping to paint any reduction as a 'victory'! In fact, the figure will indeed be worked out and negotiated on. However, it puts us in a weaker position negotiating everything else including trade! When Article 50 is triggered we will have left the E.U. and our bargaining position will be far weaker? You've got far less leverage when you are outside the club than when you are in it? Probably the reason why M/s May was a Remainer sic 'Remain means Brexit'?!' Haha! Haha! Dad's Army were a far more effective unit than The Cabinet are?  |
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 10, 2017 17:28:51 GMT
No the higher the tariffs means the higher the price how that effects trade or sales depends on the price elasticity of demand but bearing in mind the EU sells far more to the UK than it buys from the UK, it will harm itself far more than it harms the UK so it's their move and the Germans have already pointed out to the EU it is ridiculous to expect the UK to agree a €60 billion bill first without knowing how the final deal will look. No, you're wrong! The proportion of E.U. goods/services coming to the U.K. is significantly lower as a percentage of their exports than vice versa! It is the U.K. that is in a weaker position as every European politician, newspaper has pointed out! Nobody has tried to paint this as a some sort of bill more than you Tories as you're hoping to paint any reduction as a 'victory'! In fact, the figure will indeed be worked out and negotiated on. However, it puts us in a weaker position negotiating everything else including trade! When Article 50 is triggered we will have left the E.U. and our bargaining position will be far weaker? You've got far less leverage when you are outside the club than when you are in it? Probably the reason why M/s May was a Remainer sic 'Remain means Brexit'?!' Haha! Haha! Most of the 27's biggest export to the UK is people. Ireland sells something like 40% of it's agriculture and drinks exports to the UK, I don't know what the tariff is but says it's 30% like Mars Bars and we'll be buying beef from Australia, NZ, South America or USA instead but that's ok as it's only a small percentage of total EU sales, I suspect the Agriculture industry in Ireland may not agree with you.... As i've said before Germany will i'm sure agree to a deal that harms it's car industry because overall it's only a small percentage of EU sales when you include tourism from Malta etc, you're leaving in cloud cuckoo land. With German and French elections on the way let's see how long this pay the €60 billion bill before we negotiate threat stays on the table, |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 10, 2017 17:41:24 GMT
No, you're wrong! The proportion of E.U. goods/services coming to the U.K. is significantly lower as a percentage of their exports than vice versa! It is the U.K. that is in a weaker position as every European politician, newspaper has pointed out! Nobody has tried to paint this as a some sort of bill more than you Tories as you're hoping to paint any reduction as a 'victory'! In fact, the figure will indeed be worked out and negotiated on. However, it puts us in a weaker position negotiating everything else including trade! When Article 50 is triggered we will have left the E.U. and our bargaining position will be far weaker? You've got far less leverage when you are outside the club than when you are in it? Probably the reason why M/s May was a Remainer sic 'Remain means Brexit'?!' Haha! Haha! Most of the 27's biggest export to the UK is people. Ireland sells something like 40% of it's agriculture and drinks exports to the UK, I don't know what the tariff is but says it's 30% like Mars Bars and we'll be buying beef from Australia, NZ, South America or USA instead but that's ok as it's only a small percentage of total EU sales, I suspect the Agriculture industry in Ireland may not agree with you.... As i've said before Germany will i'm sure agree to a deal that harms it's car industry because overall it's only a small percentage of EU sales when you include tourism from Malta etc, you're leaving in cloud cuckoo land. With German and French elections on the way let's see how long this pay the €60 billion bill before we negotiate threat stays on the table, Factually, you are still wrong! Any agreement has to be by all 27 countries so using a few countries as examples of the support we might has to be seen in the context of a group of 27. So far, two of the least sympathetic countries towards M/s May have been Ireland and Malta! Marvellous isn't it when a country with close ties like Ireland is saying legal commitments mean you pay up and Malta a fellow Commonwealth country being totally unsympathetic towards the U.K.. Takes real talent by May and Johnson to achieve this even before Art. 50 is triggered! |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 10, 2017 18:02:00 GMT
The 'real' budget has been moved to the Autumn to allow more time before the end of the tax year for individuals and business' to implement any new legislation. The legislation regarding NI that came out of the manifesto pledge did not include self-employed NI. This has been an option for a while. Why not? Self employed paying 9% NI and employed paying 12%. (Up to 43K) An extra 60p a day or about £240 a year. Just have to declare one of those weekend foreigners Well, Dr Goebbels you're living up to your epithet! M/s May has delayed implementation(if at all) till the autumn and there was no such small print in the Tory manifesto about self-employed N.I.! It was a clear, unequivocal statement about NO tax rises! At the same time you forgot to add that M/s May's Brexit means Brexit also means a £60billion bill. No wonder M/s May was a Remainer! Mr Hammond might have joked about Labour and driverless technology but given M/s May's disappearing act during the Referendum I am surprised he wanted to increase N.I. for self-employed magicians who disappear so easily and readily?! Aye up Cockers, I can't be arsed with it today to be honest but suffice to say Manifesto's are campaigning, the small print as you put it, is the legislation that comes from those announcements. Self employed NI wasn't included. The £60bn is a made up figure from Michel Barnier based on him/the EU expecting us to keep paying into initiatives even after we leave. That obviously wont happen. A question. How much do you think the EU is worth? Assets, cash in the bank, properties, company cars etc. How much? |
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 10, 2017 18:17:28 GMT
Most of the 27's biggest export to the UK is people. Ireland sells something like 40% of it's agriculture and drinks exports to the UK, I don't know what the tariff is but says it's 30% like Mars Bars and we'll be buying beef from Australia, NZ, South America or USA instead but that's ok as it's only a small percentage of total EU sales, I suspect the Agriculture industry in Ireland may not agree with you.... As i've said before Germany will i'm sure agree to a deal that harms it's car industry because overall it's only a small percentage of EU sales when you include tourism from Malta etc, you're leaving in cloud cuckoo land. With German and French elections on the way let's see how long this pay the €60 billion bill before we negotiate threat stays on the table, Factually, you are still wrong! Any agreement has to be by all 27 countries so using a few countries as examples of the support we might has to be seen in the context of a group of 27. So far, two of the least sympathetic countries towards M/s May have been Ireland and Malta! Marvellous isn't it when a country with close ties like Ireland is saying legal commitments mean you pay up and Malta a fellow Commonwealth country being totally unsympathetic towards the U.K.. Takes real talent by May and Johnson to achieve this even before Art. 50 is triggered! Really any agreement has to be by all 27 you say Jesus wept, if you don't realise some of the 27 are more equal than others there is no hope for you, of the 27 only 5 or 6 are organ grinders who pay in the rest take out. So the two countries you mention Malta receives cash from the EU so will obviously back any deal that doesn't threaten their funding, Ireland has recently started to be a net contributor again you seem surprised they are not offering to step forward and pay more as a first move, i'm guessing you don't do much negotiating. And as a point of correction if they were legal commitments there would be no negotiation, we'd have to pay there are just commitments we made when part of a club, if we're not in da club we don't have to give them 50 cent |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 10, 2017 18:45:01 GMT
Factually, you are still wrong! Any agreement has to be by all 27 countries so using a few countries as examples of the support we might has to be seen in the context of a group of 27. So far, two of the least sympathetic countries towards M/s May have been Ireland and Malta! Marvellous isn't it when a country with close ties like Ireland is saying legal commitments mean you pay up and Malta a fellow Commonwealth country being totally unsympathetic towards the U.K.. Takes real talent by May and Johnson to achieve this even before Art. 50 is triggered! Really any agreement has to be by all 27 you say Jesus wept, if you don't realise some of the 27 are more equal than others there is no hope for you, of the 27 only 5 or 6 are organ grinders who pay in the rest take out. So the two countries you mention Malta receives cash from the EU so will obviously back any deal that doesn't threaten their funding, Ireland has recently started to be a net contributor again you seem surprised they are not offering to step forward and pay more as a first move, i'm guessing you don't do much negotiating. And as a point of correction if they were legal commitments there would be no negotiation, we'd have to pay there are just commitments we made when part of a club, if we're not in da club we don't have to give them 50 cent As I understand it, any pre divorce legal commitments will be adjudicated in the European Court of Law and not by us! Well, the problem is that each member state has equal voting power irrespective of the size of their country! I accept Germany and other big countries exercise greater influence but if smaller countries object to a restriction on their emigrants coming to the U.K. they are hardly likely to be in a good frame of mind in other areas like trade. I would have thought this is common sense but obviously not for a Tory? |
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 11, 2017 10:05:36 GMT
Really any agreement has to be by all 27 you say Jesus wept, if you don't realise some of the 27 are more equal than others there is no hope for you, of the 27 only 5 or 6 are organ grinders who pay in the rest take out. So the two countries you mention Malta receives cash from the EU so will obviously back any deal that doesn't threaten their funding, Ireland has recently started to be a net contributor again you seem surprised they are not offering to step forward and pay more as a first move, i'm guessing you don't do much negotiating. And as a point of correction if they were legal commitments there would be no negotiation, we'd have to pay there are just commitments we made when part of a club, if we're not in da club we don't have to give them 50 cent As I understand it, any pre divorce legal commitments will be adjudicated in the European Court of Law and not by us! Well, the problem is that each member state has equal voting power irrespective of the size of their country! I accept Germany and other big countries exercise greater influence but if smaller countries object to a restriction on their emigrants coming to the U.K. they are hardly likely to be in a good frame of mind in other areas like trade. I would have thought this is common sense but obviously not for a Tory? I think you misunderstand any brexit deal has to be approved by the other 27, when we leave we stop being liable to make payments and will no longer come under the European Court of law. As i've said if there was a legal basis to make us pay €60 billion they would be talking of contracts and not commitments. The €60 billion also doesn't stack up when we currently pay €12 billion or so a year and this is meant to cover from date of leaving in 2019 to 2020. |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 11, 2017 10:33:16 GMT
As I understand it, any pre divorce legal commitments will be adjudicated in the European Court of Law and not by us! Well, the problem is that each member state has equal voting power irrespective of the size of their country! I accept Germany and other big countries exercise greater influence but if smaller countries object to a restriction on their emigrants coming to the U.K. they are hardly likely to be in a good frame of mind in other areas like trade. I would have thought this is common sense but obviously not for a Tory? I think you misunderstand any brexit deal has to be approved by the other 27, when we leave we stop being liable to make payments and will no longer come under the European Court of law. As i've said if there was a legal basis to make us pay €60 billion they would be talking of contracts and not commitments. The €60 billion also doesn't stack up when we currently pay €12 billion or so a year and this is meant to cover from date of leaving in 2019 to 2020. But the commitments have already been made! Last night, it was mooted that a deal had been struck with the E.U.. Strange, how none of this was mentioned during the Referendum campaign? Perhaps, Boris Johnson and the other Tory Eurosceptics suffered a bout of amnesia? Not to worry as Boris must have made a full recovery otherwise M/s May wouldn't have made him Foreign Secretary?! |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 11, 2017 18:45:34 GMT
Can anyone explain what's happening on the road tax front. Read summat in the paper today, but wasn't quite sure what it means regarding said tax. £140 mentioned. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 15, 2017 11:49:55 GMT
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 15, 2017 12:16:06 GMT
Momo you little tinker  Would you rather they continue with their original announcement? The Left were all 'Breaking manifesto promises' shocking blah, blah The Government listens, thinks and changes it's mind. Now it's 'Shambolic cunts' not ........... OK fair enough, big enough to admit a misstep. Be honest there's absolutely nothing that this Government will ever do or say that you'll applaud. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 15, 2017 12:29:01 GMT
Momo you little tinker Would you rather they continue with their original announcement? The Left were all 'Breaking manifesto promises' shocking blah, blah The Government listens, thinks and changes it's mind. Now it's 'Shambolic cunts' not ........... OK fair enough, big enough to admit a misstep. Be honest there's absolutely nothing that this Government will ever do or say that you'll applaud. Scarcely the point Rog old chap. Listening to Andrew Neil earlier it seems that some people in the treasury weren't aware of the manifesto committment and the Chancellor himself wasn't aware of the structural changes in the labour market. You know where big companies avoid employer contributions by making their employees fake self employed. All encouraged by this Government. Fucking shambles! |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 15, 2017 12:48:46 GMT
Scarcely the point Rog old chap. Listening to Andrew Neil earlier it seems that some people in the treasury weren't aware of the manifesto committment and the Chancellor himself wasn't aware of the structural changes in the labour market. You know where big companies avoid employer contributions by making their employees fake self employed. All encouraged by this Government. Fucking shambles! Well could you argue that Hammond wasn't the Chancellor backing these proposals back in 2014/15 and May's Government wasn't the one campaigning with this manifesto? I think you're right in that it's a schoolboy error to announce one day and u-turn the next but for me it's semantics. If Hammond had stood up and said, due to the changing face of the economy since 2015 I'm 'tweaking' the promise with regards to self employed NIC's. Or release a statement in advance. Or, he could have said that with hindsight it wasn't the smoothest of policy changes or some such Either way, I think he was an open and honest sentence away from a fair tax rise. Your self employed comment is interesting. I did a bit of Employment Law back in the day and there are transparent guidelines regarding what constitutes an 'employee' or a 'self employed' worker and these should be rigorously implemented. |
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