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Post by Pugsley on Feb 26, 2017 22:47:29 GMT
How many games have they played while we have been preparing for todays game, your excuses are becoming tedious there is no way anyone can defend the shit Hughes has prepared and served up today as PL fayre, if he was a chef he would be working at Mc Donalds. What difference does it make how many games they have played? Not made any excuses for Hughes Tedious thats superb coming from an imitation Benjamin Biscuit!! A poor mans Benji Biscuit - could there be a more crushing put down? Superb work.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Feb 26, 2017 22:48:05 GMT
You just love knocking Stoke More bullshit ! go to bed you are making yourself look really stupid, your defence of Hughes is about as credible as the defence his team put up today AGAIN. Show me where I have defended him mini Benj?
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 26, 2017 22:48:32 GMT
How many games have they played while we have been preparing for todays game, your excuses are becoming tedious there is no way anyone can defend the shit Hughes has prepared and served up today as PL fayre, if he was a chef he would be working at Mc Donalds. What difference does it make how many games they have played? Not made any excuses for Hughes Tedious thats superb coming from an imitation Benjamin Biscuit!! you really don't have a Scooby do you.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Feb 26, 2017 22:49:50 GMT
What difference does it make how many games they have played? Not made any excuses for Hughes Tedious thats superb coming from an imitation Benjamin Biscuit!! you really don't have a Scooby do you. Come on Mini show me facts
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 26, 2017 22:51:07 GMT
Cheap BenjiBiscuit, you're just a cheap BenjiBiscuit, cheap BenjiBiiiiiscuit....
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Post by Will_75 on Feb 26, 2017 22:51:30 GMT
yeah thanks for that mate, the point of my post was definitely to big up "JJ"'s amazing insights, rather than to point out that the outcome was pretty much on the cards from the earliest stages of the game, whichever colours you wear. For clarity: after having two weeks to get ourselves right up for it we were bloody miles off. when the most average of pundits (happy now?) are saying they're disappointed we didn't give them a game, it's pretty hard to find any positives. You really care what pundits say most are happy to just knock us. Spurs were at their best in the first 15 mins and we couldnt cope sad but true. Of course not - I still get as wound up as I used to when they thought Stefan Thordarson was the manager's son..! And the posters on here who think we've a divine right to win every game wind me up just as much - I defended Pulis and I've defended Hughes, I have a man crush on Super Jon and all the rest - BUT there's a difference between being beaten despite giving of your very best (like the 4-2 at Chelsea) and just not turning up. I never, ever want to turn to my virtual back pages and read: Lads, it's Stoke City.www.theguardian.com/football/2017/feb/26/tottenham-hotspur-stoke-city-premier-league-match-reportHughes should blow this up and stick on the wall.
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Post by swampySCFC on Feb 26, 2017 22:52:42 GMT
I accept Spurs are a good side but we think we are too. We did fuck all with our talents so thats a question that needs answering
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Post by thevoid on Feb 26, 2017 22:56:29 GMT
So we don't need to discuss the poor form and regular heavy defeats that have gone on for 13 months now because we lost 6-0 to Forest ages ago? Fair enough.
Not sure what some random dicking we received 15 years ago has to do with our current record of nine league and cup wins all season, but apparently there's nowt to talk about. Makes you wonder why we need a messageboard really.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Feb 26, 2017 22:59:50 GMT
So we don't need to discuss the poor form and regular heavy defeats that have gone on for 13 months now because we lost 6-0 to Forest ages ago? Fair enough. Not sure what some random dicking we received 15 years ago has to do with our current record of nine league and cup wins all season, but apparently there's nowt to talk about. Makes you wonder why we need a messageboard really. Discuss by all means, rant and rave like a manic depressive no. We were awful, if we win next week we will be better than Real Madrid to some on here whereas we are worse than the Vale today.
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Post by mrcoke on Feb 26, 2017 23:10:07 GMT
yeah thanks for that mate, the point of my post was definitely to big up "JJ"'s amazing insights, rather than to point out that the outcome was pretty much on the cards from the earliest stages of the game, whichever colours you wear. For clarity: after having two weeks to get ourselves right up for it we were bloody miles off. when the most average of pundits (happy now?) are saying they're disappointed we didn't give them a game, it's pretty hard to find any positives. You really care what pundits say most are happy to just knock us. Spurs were at their best in the first 15 mins and we couldnt cope sad but true. I'm with you chesterfield. We were well beaten by a very good side, again. Their 1st goal was an excellent strike by a top class striker in his best form, who has scored more goals in the Prem. than anyone since the start of last season, the best Spurs goal scorer since Greaves. The second goal was poor marking, somebody should have been in his face before he shot. The 3rd goal was a lucky deflection. Their 4th goal was down to us trying to push up the pitch and getting caught out by 2 players who are a lot faster than our players. This goal actually begs the question, when we are losing should we chase the game and risk conceding more goals, or should we simply get behind the ball and try and save face by not conceding more? I think we are right to keep attacking as far as we are able. After today's drubbing I have kept my counsel till now as it says in Proverbs 9.7 "He who rebukes a scorner heaps upon himself abuse...". Our squad is too old, but I agree with PC it is still the strongest Stoke have ever had. Hughes hasn't "found" the best XI to make a top quality team, but he is still the best manager we are ever likely to get to work at Stoke, and expect he will be a long time with us, as Moyes was at Everton. As alluded to in another stream, Waddington took many years to build a successful Division 1 side. I don't believe anyone in the side today wasn't trying and I expect they are more upset at their performance than we are, and they deserved at least 2 goals from their efforts, but Spurs have the tightest defence in the Prem. Good OP jonso; let's be positive and face reality. This is one of the best periods in the club's history.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 26, 2017 23:11:16 GMT
So we don't need to discuss the poor form and regular heavy defeats that have gone on for 13 months now because we lost 6-0 to Forest ages ago? Fair enough. Not sure what some random dicking we received 15 years ago has to do with our current record of nine league and cup wins all season, but apparently there's nowt to talk about. Makes you wonder why we need a messageboard really. Dumb and dumber are in cahoots tonight they really don't see where Hughes is taking our club, never mind there is non so blind as those that can not see, easier to deflect from their and the managers short comings than face the truth oh well off for some biscuits and a cup of tea, hopefully PC will pull his head out of Bliars arse in the morning and see the feckin Iceburg we are heading towards.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Feb 26, 2017 23:14:33 GMT
So we don't need to discuss the poor form and regular heavy defeats that have gone on for 13 months now because we lost 6-0 to Forest ages ago? Fair enough. Not sure what some random dicking we received 15 years ago has to do with our current record of nine league and cup wins all season, but apparently there's nowt to talk about. Makes you wonder why we need a messageboard really. Dumb and dumber are in cahoots tonight they really don't see where Hughes is taking our club, never mind there is non so blind as those that can not see, easier to deflect from their and the managers short comings than face the truth oh well off for some biscuits and a cup of tea, hopefully PC will pull his head out of Bliars arse in the morning and see the feckin Iceburg we are heading towards. But this thread isnt about where Hughes is taking us Mini but about todays match at Spurs. You still have shown me where Ive defended Hughes? Perahps facts dont come in to your comments Mini Benj
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Post by swampySCFC on Feb 26, 2017 23:17:31 GMT
How many games have they played while we have been preparing for todays game, your excuses are becoming tedious there is no way anyone can defend the shit Hughes has prepared and served up today as PL fayre, if he was a chef he would be working at Mc Donalds. What difference does it make how many games they have played? Not made any excuses for Hughes Tedious thats superb coming from an imitation Benjamin Biscuit!! In fairness mate Ive been supporting and attending Stoke games for more than 40 years. More lows than highs along that road fella. But when we present a performance like we did today you need to question it
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Feb 26, 2017 23:18:54 GMT
What difference does it make how many games they have played? Not made any excuses for Hughes Tedious thats superb coming from an imitation Benjamin Biscuit!! In fairness mate Ive been supporting and attending Stoke games for more than 40 years. More lows than highs along that road fella. But when we present a performance like we did today you need to question it Agreed question it yes but remain sensible about it.
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Post by Parkhall Wanderer on Feb 26, 2017 23:19:39 GMT
So we don't need to discuss the poor form and regular heavy defeats that have gone on for 13 months now because we lost 6-0 to Forest ages ago? Fair enough. Not sure what some random dicking we received 15 years ago has to do with our current record of nine league and cup wins all season, but apparently there's nowt to talk about. Makes you wonder why we need a messageboard really. Dumb and dumber are in cahoots tonight they really don't see where Hughes is taking our club, never mind there is non so blind as those that can not see, easier to deflect from their and the managers short comings than face the truth oh well off for some biscuits and a cup of tea, hopefully PC will pull his head out of Bliars arse in the morning and see the feckin Iceburg we are heading towards. Just worked out what your last job was .......Fucking Deckchair Attendant on the Titanic. Coates might have his head up Blairs arse but I would still trust him to see far more than you. Don't choke on your biscuits owd whatever value brand they are
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Post by Will_75 on Feb 26, 2017 23:26:30 GMT
You really care what pundits say most are happy to just knock us. Spurs were at their best in the first 15 mins and we couldnt cope sad but true. I'm with you chesterfield. We were well beaten by a very good side, again. Their 1st goal was an excellent strike by a top class striker in his best form, who has scored more goals in the Prem. than anyone since the start of last season, the best Spurs goal scorer since Greaves. The second goal was poor marking, somebody should have been in his face before he shot. The 3rd goal was a lucky deflection. Their 4th goal was down to us trying to push up the pitch and getting caught out by 2 players who are a lot faster than our players. This goal actually begs the question, when we are losing should we chase the game and risk conceding more goals, or should we simply get behind the ball and try and save face by not conceding more? I think we are right to keep attacking as far as we are able. After today's drubbing I have kept my counsel till now as it says in Proverbs 9.7 "He who rebukes a scorner heaps upon himself abuse...". Our squad is too old, but I agree with PC it is still the strongest Stoke have ever had. Hughes hasn't "found" the best XI to make a top quality team, but he is still the best manager we are ever likely to get to work at Stoke, and expect he will be a long time with us, as Moyes was at Everton. As alluded to in another stream, Waddington took many years to build a successful Division 1 side. I don't believe anyone in the side today wasn't trying and I expect they are more upset at their performance than we are, and they deserved at least 2 goals from their efforts, but Spurs have the tightest defence in the Prem. Good OP jonso; let's be positive and face reality. This is one of the best periods in the club's history.Of course it's one of the best periods in our history, I've a lot of time for Hughes, and I know Spurs have only conceded 5 at home all season, and are a much better team. But that performance was not acceptable. It's possible to hold both views and still be right. You don't have to pick sides and "heap abuse". Anyway, I have man flu and am going to sleep. Bring on Boro
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Feb 26, 2017 23:27:56 GMT
I'm with you chesterfield. We were well beaten by a very good side, again. Their 1st goal was an excellent strike by a top class striker in his best form, who has scored more goals in the Prem. than anyone since the start of last season, the best Spurs goal scorer since Greaves. The second goal was poor marking, somebody should have been in his face before he shot. The 3rd goal was a lucky deflection. Their 4th goal was down to us trying to push up the pitch and getting caught out by 2 players who are a lot faster than our players. This goal actually begs the question, when we are losing should we chase the game and risk conceding more goals, or should we simply get behind the ball and try and save face by not conceding more? I think we are right to keep attacking as far as we are able. After today's drubbing I have kept my counsel till now as it says in Proverbs 9.7 "He who rebukes a scorner heaps upon himself abuse...". Our squad is too old, but I agree with PC it is still the strongest Stoke have ever had. Hughes hasn't "found" the best XI to make a top quality team, but he is still the best manager we are ever likely to get to work at Stoke, and expect he will be a long time with us, as Moyes was at Everton. As alluded to in another stream, Waddington took many years to build a successful Division 1 side. I don't believe anyone in the side today wasn't trying and I expect they are more upset at their performance than we are, and they deserved at least 2 goals from their efforts, but Spurs have the tightest defence in the Prem. Good OP jonso; let's be positive and face reality. This is one of the best periods in the club's history.Of course it's one of the best periods in our history, I've a lot of time for Hughes, and I know Spurs have only conceded 5 at home all season, and are a much better team. But that performance was not acceptable. It's possible to hold both views and still be right. You don't have to pick sides and "heap abuse". Anyway, I have man flu and am going to sleep. Bring on Boro Wheres the abuse in that??
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Post by senojbor on Feb 26, 2017 23:41:15 GMT
Have anyone ever thought why MH Isn't managing Man U? After all he's a United legend who's been in management quite a long time. He's wank that's why
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Post by riproaring on Feb 26, 2017 23:49:22 GMT
But it's not happy days really is it? Had we lost the game today by the same scoreline but thrown everything at it from start to finish, then you just accept the superior quality of a team like Spurs and take some comfort from the fact that we had a go. I'm ever the optimist but I'm far from happy. Our team were embarassing and it pissed me right off. I don't want Hughes to go but he must have a major rethink in the Summer and we're desperate for pace! I'm gutted..... don't really know what to say right now so I'll quit while I'm ahead. Just want to feel proud of the lads again 😔 Nahhh its not happy days it was much better when we were getting hammered at Wigan or Forest or Birmingham slaughtering us at home. Yes I enjoyed those days much more. It's million miles from that team and we all glad for that,but for fuck sake good players comes higher expectations and if this is the highest we can hope for being tubbed 4 by Spurs by half time it's a different game than I ever played at much lower level granted but there is earning a living did they do that today ??
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Post by thegift on Feb 27, 2017 0:07:18 GMT
There is no positives from today. Absolutely none.
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Post by thegift on Feb 27, 2017 0:09:14 GMT
So we don't need to discuss the poor form and regular heavy defeats that have gone on for 13 months now because we lost 6-0 to Forest ages ago? Fair enough. Not sure what some random dicking we received 15 years ago has to do with our current record of nine league and cup wins all season, but apparently there's nowt to talk about. Makes you wonder why we need a messageboard really. Discuss by all means, rant and rave like a manic depressive no. We were awful, if we win next week we will be better than Real Madrid to some on here whereas we are worse than the Vale today. Well i'll tell you something for free, Vale would of put up more of a fight than we did today, thats for sure.
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 27, 2017 7:20:36 GMT
Have anyone ever thought why MH Isn't managing Man U? After all he's a United legend who's been in management quite a long time. He's wank that's why Ha ha ha ha. Why isn't Pulis managing Chelsea then? You're a disgrace.
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 27, 2017 7:43:10 GMT
Cheap BenjiBiscuit, you're just a cheap BenjiBiscuit, cheap BenjiBiiiiiscuit.... Don't knock the man it's not his fault he can only afford a gravity Cayman
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Post by Scrotnig on Feb 27, 2017 8:21:01 GMT
Every single time we get a tonking like this (which is quite often), one of these threads gets posted telling everyone who isn't happy about it to shut up because everything's wonderful.
Well, no. Go away, I will continue to criticise my team as I see fit, and anyone who doesn't like it - tough shit.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 9:49:18 GMT
To the op. Playing Whelan and Adam in midfield was possibly the worst decision of the manager's season. Obvious to anyone with a nose on their face!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 10:10:04 GMT
Yes and a good percentage of Arsenal fans want their manager out for it. We cannot keep saying "shit happens" when we get smashed like we have done today because over the last 12 months it's happened far too often. They want him out because they bekieve they should win trophies Yes and the reason they don't win many trophies these days is because their manager keeps making the same mistakes over and over again. Sound familiar???
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 10:39:27 GMT
Have you seen the teams we've beat this season? Have you seen how many times we've conceded 4 in the past 12 months? Fans are concerned and have more than enough reason to be Conceding 4 as often as we have as well as being very frustrating actually masks the fact that in the main we have defended solidly this season. We've kept 7 clean sheets, conceded 1 goal on 11 occasions, conceded 2 goals just once against Leicester, 3 goals just once against Arsenal and 4 goals on 6 occasions. So 18 of the 26 games this season we have conceded one or less which is actually decent, what's the head scratcher is that when we implode we don't do it by half. The problem needs addressing but this shows it might not be the wholesale changes that some want.....
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Post by Gods on Feb 27, 2017 10:52:05 GMT
Have you seen the teams we've beat this season? Have you seen how many times we've conceded 4 in the past 12 months? Fans are concerned and have more than enough reason to be Conceding 4 as often as we have as well as being very frustrating actually masks the fact that in the main we have defended solidly this season. We've kept 7 clean sheets, conceded 1 goal on 11 occasions, conceded 2 goals just once against Leicester, 3 goals just once against Arsenal and 4 goals on 6 occasions. So 18 of the 26 games this season we have conceded one or less which is actually decent, what's the head scratcher is that when we implode we don't do it by half. The problem needs addressing but this shows it might not be the wholesale changes that some want..... With the exception of Palace the 4 goal defeats have all come against the Big 6 teams I believe. Trouble is if you go 1 behind against quality teams and go chasing the game against and forget to do the painful, boring, closing down and tight formation stuff you'll get taken apart and that I think is what has happened too often.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 11:03:57 GMT
Conceding 4 as often as we have as well as being very frustrating actually masks the fact that in the main we have defended solidly this season. We've kept 7 clean sheets, conceded 1 goal on 11 occasions, conceded 2 goals just once against Leicester, 3 goals just once against Arsenal and 4 goals on 6 occasions. So 18 of the 26 games this season we have conceded one or less which is actually decent, what's the head scratcher is that when we implode we don't do it by half. The problem needs addressing but this shows it might not be the wholesale changes that some want..... With the exception of Palace the 4 goal defeats have all come against the Big 6 teams I believe. Trouble is if you go 1 behind against quality teams and go chasing the game against and forget to do the painful, boring, closing down and tight formation stuff you'll get taken apart and that I think is what has happened too often. Agree.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Feb 27, 2017 11:31:10 GMT
But it's not happy days really is it? Had we lost the game today by the same scoreline but thrown everything at it from start to finish, then you just accept the superior quality of a team like Spurs and take some comfort from the fact that we had a go. I'm ever the optimist but I'm far from happy. Our team were embarassing and it pissed me right off. I don't want Hughes to go but he must have a major rethink in the Summer and we're desperate for pace! I'm gutted..... don't really know what to say right now so I'll quit while I'm ahead. Just want to feel proud of the lads again 😔 Nahhh its not happy days it was much better when we were getting hammered at Wigan or Forest or Birmingham slaughtering us at home. Yes I enjoyed those days much more. It's not a comparison
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