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Post by kevkj on Feb 26, 2017 20:28:02 GMT
Surely has to be Diouf and Berahino up front against Boro.
It is the only way of putting some pace into our side from the lifeless squad.Im not certain it will work but i cannot fathom anything better.
Carry on withe present playing 1 aint working and has ruined numerous forwards careers at Stoke.
It is broke change it.
"Vis Unita Fortior"
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Feb 26, 2017 20:30:32 GMT
Said the same and have been for a while.
We are all but safe now so two up front makes sense to me. I'd have Geoff and Glenn sitting in with perm two from three of Arnie/Shaq/Sohbi with Saido and Mame up top.
We lack pace and in general Allen isn't playing "off" Crouch so what's to lose?
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Post by Uncle cheese on Feb 26, 2017 20:32:15 GMT
Said the same and have been for a while. We are all but safe now so two up front makes sense to me. I'd have Geoff and Glenn sitting in with perm two from three of Arnie/Shaq/Sohbi with Saido and Mame up top. We lack pace and in general Allen isn't playing "off" Crouch so what's to lose? Totally agreed with this, we have pace butfor some reason we are refusing to use it |
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Post by robstokie on Feb 26, 2017 21:02:12 GMT
One problem - Diouf and Berahino are both predominantly pace players who would perhaps look to make the same runs as each other. For next week, I would be tempted to play Saido alongside Crouchy (despite the fact he gets isolated away from home when teams are on top of us, I reckon he will be useful against Boro because we will have the majority of the ball, Boro will sit back and defend and with Crouchys presence, they might deploy two men on him, thus making the space for Saido to run into)
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Post by Uncle cheese on Feb 26, 2017 21:06:53 GMT
One problem - Diouf and Berahino are both predominantly pace players who would perhaps look to make the same runs as each other. For next week, I would be tempted to play Saido alongside Crouchy (despite the fact he gets isolated away from home when teams are on top of us, I reckon he will be useful against Boro because we will have the majority of the ball, Boro will sit back and defend and with Crouchys presence, they might deploy two men on him, thus making the space for Saido to run into) No don't do this. We should go for out and out pace |
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Post by bojanwonder on Feb 26, 2017 22:30:04 GMT
Surely has to be Diouf and Berahino up front against Boro. It is the only way of putting some pace into our side from the lifeless squad.Im not certain it will work but i cannot fathom anything better. Carry on withe present playing 1 aint working and has ruined numerous forwards careers at Stoke. It is broke change it. "Vis Unita Fortior" Got to be worth a try surely!! |
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Post by Billybigbollox on Feb 26, 2017 22:39:41 GMT
Either that or me and my mate Charlie up front.
We're both fat and fifty, but we couldn't put in a worse performance than today.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 23:31:57 GMT
Surely has to be Diouf and Berahino up front against Boro. It is the only way of putting some pace into our side from the lifeless squad.Im not certain it will work but i cannot fathom anything better. Carry on withe present playing 1 aint working and has ruined numerous forwards careers at Stoke. It is broke change it. "Vis Unita Fortior" Got to be worth a try surely!! This. |
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Post by Miles Offside on Feb 27, 2017 0:03:14 GMT
At home against the like of Boro you'd think he'd go for two up front, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 27, 2017 1:00:59 GMT
Matty Etherington said on Radio Stoke after the game that he thinks in order to get the best out of Berahino you can't play him as the lone striker in a 4-2-3-1 (to be fair, Baggies fans have said the same) and that he needs to be a part of a front '2'.
Hughes doesn't really do front 'two's' though does he?
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Post by somersetstokie on Feb 27, 2017 1:39:18 GMT
I would say tear up the current plan but it has hard to definitely identify what it might be. It is clear that we need to try something different in the remaining games, as long as we do not come under points pressure, so why not go for the currently out of favour but generally accepted 442 formation. as it normally allows for consistency and balance. Surely we can find two strong midfielders, two effective wide men and two complementary front men, from the current squad. If we have players that will not be with us next season then disregard them. This certainly rules out Bony, so why not use Berahino and Douf, or perhaps N'Goy up front. Today we scored 0, so no new formation can statistically be worse. I know the season isn't over (unfortunately) and we could still face relegation issues, but this is a time to be bold and imaginitive.
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Post by pottarius on Feb 27, 2017 2:03:46 GMT
Hughes will try Saido as the 'one' up top for some games, shift him to the right wing for a few games, try him as a wing back & eventually put him on the bench for the rest of the season. He'll then identify another unsuited striker, stalk him for a couple of windows and try the same again
I really don't hold out much hope for him being our new 'golden one' - at the moment the expensive misfiring squad is more of a 'golden shower' TBH
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Post by malisastokie on Feb 27, 2017 2:39:51 GMT
I agree Berahino can't lead the line alone it sticks out like dogs balls.
Arnie might be an option to play up front with him because he ran some great lines against Arsenal when he played up front.
Arnie is also strong and technically gifted and would If Berihino runs into space find him where Diouf might fluff his lines more often than not.
Dioufs pace allows him to play one out up front in a counter attacking set up.
Diouf also has played out of position when we have played with 3 at back and done extremely well.
I think he could be turned into a good wing back and Ramadan on the other side might be an option to takes some of the old legs out of the side.
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Post by kustokie on Feb 27, 2017 3:01:47 GMT
Either that or me and my mate Charlie up front. We're both fat and fifty, but we couldn't put in a worse performance than today. I should fit in on the wing, then. I am fat and 61. I'll get me boots. |
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Post by Billybigbollox on Feb 27, 2017 7:55:44 GMT
Either that or me and my mate Charlie up front. We're both fat and fifty, but we couldn't put in a worse performance than today. I should fit in on the wing, then. I am fat and 61. I'll get me boots. You're in !  |
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Post by Northy on Feb 27, 2017 8:54:14 GMT
Use the 3-5-2 again to accomodate 2 strikers ?
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Post by Clem Fandango on Feb 27, 2017 9:04:48 GMT
Matty Etherington said on Radio Stoke after the game that he thinks in order to get the best out of Berahino you can't play him as the lone striker in a 4-2-3-1 (to be fair, Baggies fans have said the same) and that he needs to be a part of a front '2'.
Hughes doesn't really do front 'two's' though does he?
I reckon we'll be sat here in 6 months saying why did we sign Berahino? Its hard to know what striker works in Hughes' teams so far he's tried every shape and size and nobody seems up to the task. If he did play two up top who would work? Bony and Berahino? I think Diouf and Berahino are perhaps too similar. |
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Post by mickmacc on Feb 27, 2017 10:12:32 GMT
Crouch and Berahino could be like Crouch and Defoe. i.e. a very good partnership.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Feb 27, 2017 11:00:03 GMT
Yes, let's build the team around Crouch, it's the future.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 27, 2017 11:43:34 GMT
Matty Etherington said on Radio Stoke after the game that he thinks in order to get the best out of Berahino you can't play him as the lone striker in a 4-2-3-1 (to be fair, Baggies fans have said the same) and that he needs to be a part of a front '2'.
Hughes doesn't really do front 'two's' though does he?
No, despite continually signing players who work best in that set up. |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 27, 2017 11:47:14 GMT
Matty Etherington said on Radio Stoke after the game that he thinks in order to get the best out of Berahino you can't play him as the lone striker in a 4-2-3-1 (to be fair, Baggies fans have said the same) and that he needs to be a part of a front '2'.
Hughes doesn't really do front 'two's' though does he?
I reckon we'll be sat here in 6 months saying why did we sign Berahino? Its hard to know what striker works in Hughes' teams so far he's tried every shape and size and nobody seems up to the task. If he did play two up top who would work? Bony and Berahino? I think Diouf and Berahino are perhaps too similar. Bony and Diouf, Bony and Berahino, Joselu and Diouf, Crouch and Berahino. More combinations that I can't even be arsed to write because as the earlier poster said, Hughes doesn't do front 2's! |
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Post by mickmacc on Feb 27, 2017 11:59:16 GMT
Yes, let's build the team around Crouch, it's the future. Or perhaps live in the present? |
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