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Post by Fred Merger on Feb 5, 2017 13:18:45 GMT
For saying what a well drilled and well disciplined side West Bromwich are we could still have scored 3 or 4 goals yesterday.What Stoke need to be is a lot more aggressive in front of the opposition goal and take their chances on a much higher ratio. We made what looks a very decent side in Everton look very ordinary in the first half on Wednesday night but let ourselves down badly in front of goal. The difference between ourselves and teams like Everton and West Brom is that they are far more clinical in front of the sticks than we are. Hopefully Berahino will become our regular goal threat in time as he gets back to full fitness.
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Post by parsons75 on Feb 5, 2017 13:22:08 GMT
How come they managed to have 16 shots to our 12 terror? Yesterday????? I'm not on about yesterday, I'm on about how shit they were at our place!!! That's not really relevant now is it. Pulis has had longer to get rid of the dead wood and build his own team. Phillips and Chadli were not West Brom players last season. Plus their best defender at the time was Lescott (look what happened when he joined Villa).
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Post by Onneravineet on Feb 5, 2017 13:22:38 GMT
I'd have Phillips on our right wing tomorrow.
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Post by cooper67 on Feb 5, 2017 13:39:27 GMT
I've always hated Pulis, even when he was our manager. He ruins football and players who want to play football, his teams play the least atractive football there is. They didn't yesterday.
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Post by elystokie on Feb 5, 2017 13:46:48 GMT
I've always hated Pulis, even when he was our manager. He ruins football and players who want to play football, his teams play the least atractive football there is. They didn't yesterday. And if they didn't every time they played there wouldn't have been a shit load of empty seats there yesterday. But there was.
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Post by owdestokie on Feb 5, 2017 13:48:01 GMT
Heard pulis in interviews when at palace,he said that he would of played the attacking football at Stoke but he didn't have the players !!!! Who signed them players then when he was at Stoke ,Coates ? haha He spent £40million on strikers and £100million in total. The man lies for a living. Perhaps he's just as "economical with the truth" as some on here. I wonder what the "true" transfer in/out costs were for getting us promoted, sustaining our stay in the Premier league and of course the Wembley visits. Perhaps the Coates family are quite happy with their income over expenditure during Puli's tenure. Who knows? Just a thought
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Post by mrred on Feb 5, 2017 13:52:11 GMT
It's fucking maddening watching us play as much Pulis ball as we did. We're dull as dishwater.
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Post by cooper67 on Feb 5, 2017 13:54:48 GMT
And if they didn't every time they played there wouldn't have been a shit load of empty seats there yesterday. But there was. There were! I expected better off you Ely. 6 wins out of the last 7 at home-I'd take that at the moment. Best total of goals at home outside the top 4. Burnley only win at home but I don't see multiple threads about Dyche and his brand of football?? I wonder why?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 13:56:06 GMT
One of the main differences between Hughes and Pulis is that Hughes tends to have the philosophy that "we're Stoke City, we'll play how we want" whereas Pulis sets his teams up to nullify the opposition.
This was noticeable yesterday with Hughes not making Arnie switch wings. Their full back had Arnie in his pocket for most of the game whereas if he'd switched wings, who knows.
For all of his "failings" though, I'd still rather have Hughes every day of the week.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Feb 5, 2017 14:10:48 GMT
Yesterday????? I'm not on about yesterday, I'm on about how shit they were at our place!!! That's not really relevant now is it. Pulis has had longer to get rid of the dead wood and build his own team. Phillips and Chadli were not West Brom players last season. Plus their best defender at the time was Lescott (look what happened when he joined Villa). Wasn't that last season??? 🤔 This season they were shit at our place!!! And Lescott or not, they were awful against 9 men the season before!!! It's not really irrelevant, I was making a point of how bad they were at our place THIS season!!!
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Post by sharonbeech21 on Feb 5, 2017 14:30:45 GMT
I am not a Tony Pulis fan and I am fed up of fans on here banging on how good he is. We should behind Mark Hughes he is our manager now and no be bothered about West Brom. If some fans think he is that good maybe they should support WBA
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 5, 2017 14:35:07 GMT
He spent £40million on strikers and £100million in total. The man lies for a living. Perhaps he's just as "economical with the truth" as some on here. I wonder what the "true" transfer in/out costs were for getting us promoted, sustaining our stay in the Premier league and of course the Wembley visits. Perhaps the Coates family are quite happy with their income over expenditure during Puli's tenure. Who knows? Just a thought Coates wasn't happy, he sacked him. I'm not bothered how much he actually spent - we needed to spend it. What does bother me though are the lies that come from his mouth that are lapped up by so-called Stoke supporters. He was backed more than any other Stoke manager ever but he continually infers that he wasn't. He's a liar, END OF.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 14:58:41 GMT
They were better than us in every facet of the game and should have won by more and that's fucking that. It's not that they were that good (although they're far more balanced than us) it's the fact that we were so utterly pish. Other than Palace, the most rancid performance of the season. Rancid. Made me laugh.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 5, 2017 15:23:36 GMT
They practically played us off the park for the first 40 odd minutes. 3-0 at half time would have been damage limitation. He's turned WBA into a decent little team that can play when it wants but also defends when it wants. Yes they do a bit of gamesmanship-but so did we when he was in charge,but few complained then when it got us a result. At the moment I wouldn't mind a bit of gamesmanship-especially when we decide to lets pass the ball amongst ourselves for a while when still one down. Ryan went up top near the end and did we get it anywhere near him-no. Have to agree, Cooper. We can't have any complaints about how they played yesterday, and Tone has bought well recently(better than us, sad to say!). He's assembled a team of players that suit his style of play; Hughes has to do the same.
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Post by 'i'mnaked' on Feb 5, 2017 15:35:18 GMT
Pulis in!
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Post by Mendicant on Feb 5, 2017 15:40:02 GMT
Tactical genius... Expect his next job to be at the Bernebeu. Or at the Bernie Inn serving steak and chips.
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Post by elystokie on Feb 5, 2017 16:00:06 GMT
And if they didn't every time they played there wouldn't have been a shit load of empty seats there yesterday. But there was. There were! I expected better off you Ely. 6 wins out of the last 7 at home-I'd take that at the moment. Best total of goals at home outside the top 4. Burnley only win at home but I don't see multiple threads about Dyche and his brand of football?? I wonder why? Nowt wrong with 'there was', I'm standing by it :) As for the rest, this'll just be the latest false dawn before he reverts to type. Check out the stats on the thread someone's put up, more goals, more possession, more points and a better win ratio from Hughes since he's been here, obviously 'down to the great platform left by Toxic' but still... Think I'll stick ta :)
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Post by cooper67 on Feb 5, 2017 16:11:34 GMT
There were! I expected better off you Ely. 6 wins out of the last 7 at home-I'd take that at the moment. Best total of goals at home outside the top 4. Burnley only win at home but I don't see multiple threads about Dyche and his brand of football?? I wonder why? Nowt wrong with 'there was', I'm standing by it As for the rest, this'll just be the latest false dawn before he reverts to type. Check out the stats on the thread someone's put up, more goals, more possession, more points and a better win ratio from Hughes since he's been here, obviously 'down to the great platform left by Toxic' but still... Think I'll stick ta Was/were-even after I posted it I wasn't sure which was correct.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 5, 2017 16:59:42 GMT
Perhaps he's just as "economical with the truth" as some on here. I wonder what the "true" transfer in/out costs were for getting us promoted, sustaining our stay in the Premier league and of course the Wembley visits. Perhaps the Coates family are quite happy with their income over expenditure during Puli's tenure. Who knows? Just a thought Coates wasn't happy, he sacked him. I'm not bothered how much he actually spent - we needed to spend it. What does bother me though are the lies that come from his mouth that are lapped up by so-called Stoke supporters. He was backed more than any other Stoke manager ever but he continually infers that he wasn't. He's a liar, END OF. Sorry..you're correct of course. Any Tom, Dick or Harry could have got us promoted to the Prem. Any Tom, Dick or Harry could have established us in the Premier. Any Tom, Dick or Harry could have got us to our first FA CUP final. In years to come future Stoke fans will appreciate just what he did for our Club. When all the bitter f*****s are in an old folks home dribbling on their corned beef sandwiches.
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 5, 2017 17:34:10 GMT
Coates wasn't happy, he sacked him. I'm not bothered how much he actually spent - we needed to spend it. What does bother me though are the lies that come from his mouth that are lapped up by so-called Stoke supporters. He was backed more than any other Stoke manager ever but he continually infers that he wasn't. He's a liar, END OF. Sorry..you're correct of course. Any Tom, Dick or Harry could have got us promoted to the Prem. Any Tom, Dick or Harry could have established us in the Premier. Any Tom, Dick or Harry could have got us to our first FA CUP final. In years to come future Stoke fans will appreciate just what he did for our Club. When all the bitter f*****s are in an old folks home dribbling on their corned beef sandwiches. What are you on about? I've repeatedly said what a good job he did. I just didn't like his methods and his general scumbagishness.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 5, 2017 18:08:57 GMT
Sorry..you're correct of course. Any Tom, Dick or Harry could have got us promoted to the Prem. Any Tom, Dick or Harry could have established us in the Premier. Any Tom, Dick or Harry could have got us to our first FA CUP final. In years to come future Stoke fans will appreciate just what he did for our Club. When all the bitter f*****s are in an old folks home dribbling on their corned beef sandwiches. What are you on about? I've repeatedly said what a good job he did. I just didn't like his methods and his general scumbagishness. His "scumbagishness" goes with the territory. All the great managers have that nasty, vicious streak. The sooner you can appreciate that the sooner you will appreciate what a great manager we had and lost.
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Post by werrington on Feb 5, 2017 18:12:01 GMT
What are you on about? I've repeatedly said what a good job he did. I just didn't like his methods and his general scumbagishness. His "scumbagishness" goes with the territory. All the great managers have that nasty, vicious streak. The sooner you can appreciate that the sooner you will appreciate what a great manager we had and lost. The one you tirelessly campaigned on here to get rid of ?
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Post by kustokie on Feb 5, 2017 18:12:59 GMT
And if they didn't every time they played there wouldn't have been a shit load of empty seats there yesterday. But there was. There were! I expected better off you Ely. 6 wins out of the last 7 at home-I'd take that at the moment. Best total of goals at home outside the top 4. Burnley only win at home but I don't see multiple threads about Dyche and his brand of football?? I wonder why? Which Stoke will show up? Nobody knows!
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Post by PolPotter on Feb 5, 2017 18:17:19 GMT
It's amazing how nasty some Stoke City supporters are towards Pulis. He didn't do anything wrong to Stoke in his time here. He might not be the most glamorous name in football and his football wasn't the most glamorous but the nastiness spat towards him is bizarre. Sad bastards.
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Post by kustokie on Feb 5, 2017 18:17:20 GMT
What are you on about? I've repeatedly said what a good job he did. I just didn't like his methods and his general scumbagishness. His "scumbagishness" goes with the territory. All the great managers have that nasty, vicious streak. The sooner you can appreciate that the sooner you will appreciate what a great manager we had and lost. There's a spectrum of scumbaggishness from Claudio at one end to Tone at the other. Sparky is in probably somewhere in the middle. Claudio is probably really sneaky though. Tone's scumaggishness is there for all the world to see. Odious creature. But you know what? He probably doesn't care what people say. Just don't touch his money!
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 5, 2017 18:24:48 GMT
His "scumbagishness" goes with the territory. All the great managers have that nasty, vicious streak. The sooner you can appreciate that the sooner you will appreciate what a great manager we had and lost. The one you tirelessly campaigned on here to get rid of ? I've said many times that I was patently, wholeheartedly WRONG. My three top moments as a SCFC fan are: Wembley 1972 Hillsborough 1971 (even in the disappointment) Wembley semi versus Bolton He resurrected our Club from the depths of nothingness to an established Premier League team. End of.
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Post by owdestokie on Feb 5, 2017 18:32:45 GMT
Perhaps he's just as "economical with the truth" as some on here. I wonder what the "true" transfer in/out costs were for getting us promoted, sustaining our stay in the Premier league and of course the Wembley visits. Perhaps the Coates family are quite happy with their income over expenditure during Puli's tenure. Who knows? Just a thought Coates wasn't happy, he sacked him. I'm not bothered how much he actually spent - we needed to spend it. What does bother me though are the lies that come from his mouth that are lapped up by so-called Stoke supporters. He was backed more than any other Stoke manager ever but he continually infers that he wasn't. He's a liar, END OF. If you aren't bothered by how much he spent why raise it? "So-called" Stoke supporters, whose that aimed at? I would imagine a lot of people would take issue with that statement. What makes a "Stoke supporter" in your mind? Please expand and let all into your have a clear understanding of your definition. I for one may have to try harder
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 5, 2017 18:49:20 GMT
Coates wasn't happy, he sacked him. I'm not bothered how much he actually spent - we needed to spend it. What does bother me though are the lies that come from his mouth that are lapped up by so-called Stoke supporters. He was backed more than any other Stoke manager ever but he continually infers that he wasn't. He's a liar, END OF. If you aren't bothered by how much he spent why raise it? "So-called" Stoke supporters, whose that aimed at? I would imagine a lot of people would take issue with that statement. What makes a "Stoke supporter" in your mind? Please expand and let all into your have a clear understanding of your definition. I for one may have to try harder I raised it, like I said, because his consistent inference that he wasn't backed. He's a liar. I happen to think that he brought a lot of good players but like most managers he brought some dogs as well as being starstruck occasionally. Hughes is exactly the same in that regard. I use the phrase 'so-called' to label supporters who appear to take great joy in been done over by Toxic and can't wait to use it to hammer the current Manager.
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Post by milky on Feb 5, 2017 18:58:53 GMT
If you aren't bothered by how much he spent why raise it? "So-called" Stoke supporters, whose that aimed at? I would imagine a lot of people would take issue with that statement. What makes a "Stoke supporter" in your mind? Please expand and let all into your have a clear understanding of your definition. I for one may have to try harder I raised it, like I said, because his consistent inference that he wasn't backed. He's a liar. I happen to think that he brought a lot of good players but like most managers he brought some dogs as well as being starstruck occasionally. Hughes is exactly the same in that regard. I use the phrase 'so-called' to label supporters who appear to take great joy in been done over by Toxic and can't wait to use it to hammer the current Manager. I honestly swear to God there is a small minority who can't wait for the day we get relegated so they can feel vindicated in their loyalty to Tony !
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 5, 2017 19:02:46 GMT
I raised it, like I said, because his consistent inference that he wasn't backed. He's a liar. I happen to think that he brought a lot of good players but like most managers he brought some dogs as well as being starstruck occasionally. Hughes is exactly the same in that regard. I use the phrase 'so-called' to label supporters who appear to take great joy in been done over by Toxic and can't wait to use it to hammer the current Manager. I honestly swear to God there is a small minority who can't wait for the day we get relegated so they can feel vindicated in their loyalty to Tony ! What absolute utter rubbish.
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