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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Jan 14, 2017 17:17:07 GMT
I consider myself fairly clued up on football but probably view life through as red and white tinted glasses as anyone else, so am I stupid for really thinking he is?
I think you can put Sanchez and Hazard in a league of their own, but then I think you're struggling to name 3 more (out and out) wingers who are better than Arnie. Sterling when he turns up? Mahrez has fallen off the face of the earth. The Liverpool lot play with about 600 attacking mids all over the place so I don't think you can count any of them.
There was a moment today towards the end where he was surrounded, literally surrounded, by 4 Sunderland plays and still managed to burst through and win a free kick.
I put top 5 because I'm probably jumping the gun, but now that he's added goals to his game, I would seriously consider him a top 3 winger.
I honestly don't know how he's still a Stoke player.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 14, 2017 17:17:40 GMT
He is absolutely vital to us that's for sure mate
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Post by bertiestan on Jan 14, 2017 17:20:05 GMT
I said recently he's fast becoming my favorite ever Stoke player, I think he's top notch so yeah I'd say so.
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Post by warringtonstokie on Jan 14, 2017 17:20:21 GMT
I think there are very very few players with a first touch like his for starters. Quick, strong as anything and a really good footballing brain so I'd definitely put him top 5 on his day.
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Post by redwhite on Jan 14, 2017 17:20:53 GMT
There aren't many I'd swap him for.
Whether he's better or worse, he's completely different to any other winger I can think of. 6ft 4 and somehow manages to combine pace and unbelievable strength with immensely close control and skill. He's also a brilliant defender.
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Post by bertiestan on Jan 14, 2017 17:21:48 GMT
There aren't many I'd swap him for. Whether he's better or worse, he's completely different to any other winger I can think of. 6ft 4 and somehow manages to combine pace and unbelievable strength with immensely close control and skill. He's also a brilliant defender. Perfectly summed up |
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Post by Olgrligm on Jan 14, 2017 17:21:54 GMT
He's very, very good. Perhaps the lack of interest in him over the summer suggests that top five clubs don't really think that he's at their level, though.
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Post by irishoatcake1863 on Jan 14, 2017 17:24:10 GMT
The wingers I consider better than Arnie (in the league).
Hazard
Sanchez
Mane
Mhkitaryan
These are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head. Might be a few others like David Silva and Coutinho who play as wingers but they're mainly attacking midfielders.
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Post by medwaypotter on Jan 14, 2017 17:25:36 GMT
Our greatest asset.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 14, 2017 17:25:46 GMT
He's probably in or around the top 10 attacking players in the league. Sublime. He's been consistently good for 18 months. So many areas of his game are top quality in my opinion.
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Post by Bramolini on Jan 14, 2017 17:37:29 GMT
Arnie playing for SCFC  . I`m living the dream while it lasts , with all it`s ups and downs . I think it was Charlie that sent a raking pass to arnie , and the ball arrived from directly above his head , he only had a microsecond to look up but he killed it stone dead , unbelievable skill. |
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Post by Timmypotter on Jan 14, 2017 17:43:49 GMT
I don't think it's red and white tinted to see him as one of the best 5 wingers in the league (on his day). And on his day I'd only swap him for Hazard, and then Hazard would have to play bloody well for it to have been justified.
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Post by stokiedan17 on Jan 14, 2017 17:44:37 GMT
I'm very surprised mourinho hasn't come in for him. Him and ibra in the same team. Good god it would be a goal fest
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Post by therightside on Jan 14, 2017 17:49:25 GMT
A great signing by Stoke.
It would be wonderful if he could win a medal during his time with us.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 14, 2017 17:49:27 GMT
Good Lord, that goal is a thing of absolute beauty!
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Post by lagwafis on Jan 14, 2017 17:52:55 GMT
West Brom fans would make a similar case for Matt Phillips (four Premier League goals and eight assists this season compared Arnie's three goals and two assists). Zaha is also doing very well individually this season despite Palace struggling, as is Chadli (although I think he's playing more centrally these days).
I'm more than happy with Arnie though, hopefully today starts off a strong second half of the season and he can get double figures again.
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Post by safcforever on Jan 14, 2017 17:52:58 GMT
He's a very good player, but he's inconsitant. If he played like that regular, he wouldn't be your player :
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 14, 2017 17:59:41 GMT
His best position is without question playing on the left wing.
Not in the hole, not leading the line, not on the right, not in a two behind a striker but on the left wing.
Three at the back doesn't allow him to play there, it's criminal to move him in order to do so.
On his day, he's easily at Champions League level playing there. |
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Post by kurt on Jan 14, 2017 18:03:41 GMT
I think there are very very few players with a first touch like his for starters. Quick, strong as anything and a really good footballing brain so I'd definitely put him top 5 on his day. There are just Özil and Arni who can handle a high ball so well |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 18:08:18 GMT
Two of my favourite players scored today. Happy as Larry! Love them both.
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Post by clarkeda on Jan 14, 2017 18:21:06 GMT
His first touch is truly mesmerising
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 14, 2017 18:22:27 GMT
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Post by warringtonstokie on Jan 14, 2017 18:22:37 GMT
I think there are very very few players with a first touch like his for starters. Quick, strong as anything and a really good footballing brain so I'd definitely put him top 5 on his day. There are just Özil and Arni who can handle a high ball so well 99 times out of 100 it's trapped dead, absolutely superb. |
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Post by TexasPotter on Jan 14, 2017 18:23:13 GMT
Probably top ten easily and pushing top 5-7 for me often but he can #1 in the league in any given match. Beauty of a player.
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Post by clarkeda on Jan 14, 2017 18:26:36 GMT
Don't know why, but I was surprised at how good his English is. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 18:28:26 GMT
He's becoming a beast of a player.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 14, 2017 18:29:12 GMT
Don't know why, but I was surprised at how good his English is. He's always spoke well mate |
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Post by nutterpotter on Jan 14, 2017 18:30:35 GMT
Don't know why, but I was surprised at how good his English is. He can speak 5 languages. Some talent is our Arnie! |
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Post by WhyDelilah on Jan 14, 2017 18:31:01 GMT
He's just lacking a little bit of consistency. The absolute best are game changes in 7 or 8 games out of 10. Arnie isn't quite on that level.
He's an absolute beast on his day though. Suppose you could argue he's better than some in the top 4 (Navas springs to mind) but he's not quite in that bracket for me.
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Post by clarkeda on Jan 14, 2017 18:31:38 GMT
Don't know why, but I was surprised at how good his English is. He can speak 5 languages. Some talent is our Arnie! I knew he spoke a few but 5 is impressive, like I say, I was just taken a back how fluent he is, no idea why I didn't expect him to be. |
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. I`m living the dream while it lasts , with all it`s ups and downs . I think it was Charlie that sent a raking pass to arnie , and the ball arrived from directly above his head , he only had a microsecond to look up but he killed it stone dead , unbelievable skill.
