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Post by jarvinski on Dec 31, 2016 16:43:37 GMT
Who the fuck is our defensive coach, is it Bowen, because he wants fucking off
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Post by generationex on Dec 31, 2016 16:45:09 GMT
Sick of it. It's an embarrassment.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 16:45:18 GMT
Schoolboy defending...... AGAIN.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 16:46:53 GMT
Individual errors or shite coaching?
Or both, heh
Right team today but that doesn't excuse the poor decision-making and embarassing individual errors.
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Post by silverdollar on Dec 31, 2016 16:47:21 GMT
Who the fuck is our defensive coach, is it Bowen, because he wants fucking off Obvious who was at fault with the third and he isn't a defender! Disappointing result with dreadful individual individual errors and there is nothing the defensive coach can do about that. We have performed as well as many teams have done this year. |
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Post by mrred on Dec 31, 2016 16:55:11 GMT
I mean, Chelsea will and are beasting this season. But our defense is a fucking shambles. Shawcross is past it, I dont know how long it'll take before people realise he can't do 100% anymore. The organisation and leadership is severely lacking. Zonal marking can fuck off.
We've got a lot of work to do at the back and it starts with our fearless leader I'm afraid.
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 31, 2016 16:55:21 GMT
Despite playing some good football in the three last games we have conceded 10, and everybody uderstands that such numbers won't lead to many points! This despite playing two of the better teams!  |
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Post by Teanstokie1 on Dec 31, 2016 16:59:32 GMT
If we had defended half decent might have nicked a point.
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Post by brinsleymaclagan on Dec 31, 2016 17:02:19 GMT
We desperately need a decent centre back to replace Shawcross. Until we do that we will continue to concede too many goals. He is not good enough as a defender or captain.
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Post by ed5993 on Dec 31, 2016 17:08:02 GMT
Individual errors or shite coaching? Or both, heh Right team today but that doesn't excuse the poor decision-making and embarassing individual errors. Their 1st goal - not attacking the ball when zonal marking. Their 2nd goal - all comes from Pieters diving in, great lay off and finish. Their 3rd - Bojan trying to run the ball facing his own goal from the touchline across the 18 yard box.... he should have played a simple pass and it doesn't happen. The 4th - Too easy - Shawcross lets Costa round him then Martins Indi loses a wrestling match. As I see it over the last games it's not an inability to defend - it's a lot of individual mistakes coming from a lack of concentration, or you could even say lack of trust in team mates. I'd place it more on mentality than technical skill / ability to defend. Individually we don't have bad defenders in the team - the team just needs to learn or want to defend together. And that comes from the XI / squad, not the back 3, 4 etc. |
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Post by wearestoke80 on Dec 31, 2016 17:09:44 GMT
Fucking useless, again.
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Post by fca47 on Dec 31, 2016 17:10:43 GMT
We desperately need a decent centre back to replace Shawcross. Until we do that we will continue to concede too many goals. He is not good enough as a defender or captain. Indi didn;t do himself any favours he could have cleared the fourth no problem. It's down to the management, Johnson nearly gave a goal away with a stupid back pass, it's just carries on,they keep committing hari kiri, game after game. |
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Post by brinsleymaclagan on Dec 31, 2016 17:26:40 GMT
We desperately need a decent centre back to replace Shawcross. Until we do that we will continue to concede too many goals. He is not good enough as a defender or captain. Indi didn;t do himself any favours he could have cleared the fourth no problem. It's down to the management, Johnson nearly gave a goal away with a stupid back pass, it's just carries on,they keep committing hari kiri, game after game. You cite 2 individual errors by experienced defenders then blame the management?! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 17:27:26 GMT
Yeah fuck them all off and start again.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 17:29:22 GMT
Attack the ball when it's in the air
Never Never turn your back on the ball
Never let the ball bounce
3 things I was taught about football at junior school.......oh btw I was a rugby player footie wasn't really my game but EVERY BOY learned the basics.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 31, 2016 17:29:50 GMT
We have to go back to 4 at the back with two or three in front.
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Post by bojanwonder on Dec 31, 2016 17:32:26 GMT
Individual errors or shite coaching? Or both, heh Right team today but that doesn't excuse the poor decision-making and embarassing individual errors. Their 1st goal - not attacking the ball when zonal marking. Their 2nd goal - all comes from Pieters diving in, great lay off and finish. Their 3rd - Bojan trying to run the ball facing his own goal from the touchline across the 18 yard box.... he should have played a simple pass and it doesn't happen. The 4th - Too easy - Shawcross lets Costa round him then Martins Indi loses a wrestling match. As I see it over the last games it's not an inability to defend - it's a lot of individual mistakes coming from a lack of concentration, or you could even say lack of trust in team mates. I'd place it more on mentality than technical skill / ability to defend. Individually we don't have bad defenders in the team - the team just needs to learn or want to defend together. And that comes from the XI / squad, not the back 3, 4 etc. And a strong, vocal captain would also help the cause. Love Shawcross but he isn't a leader! |
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Post by Stoke711 on Dec 31, 2016 17:33:21 GMT
Attack the ball when it's in the air Never Never turn your back on the ball Never let the ball bounce 3 things I was taught about football at junior school.......oh btw I was a rugby player footie wasn't really my game but EVERY BOY learned the basics. If in doubt kick it out! Simple! |
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Post by sportsman on Dec 31, 2016 17:35:02 GMT
4 either slow or ageing defenders. Mistake in all of them. Put it all together, give it a shake and there you have it.
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Post by milky on Dec 31, 2016 17:35:17 GMT
It's basic stuff..And if we don't eradicate it we could be in serious shit.
It's a shame..in the last 3 (tough)away games we have shown up very well in spells but we are too easy to score against.
Fuck knows what the answer is....
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 31, 2016 17:36:29 GMT
We have to go back to 4 at the back with two or three in front. Might as well get Pulis back then. |
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 31, 2016 17:38:11 GMT
It's basic stuff..And if we don't eradicate it we could be in serious shit. It's a shame..in the last 3 (tough)away games we have shown up very well in spells but we are too easy to score against. Fuck knows what the answer is.... You are in good company then Mark and his team also have no idea of the answer. |
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Post by march4 on Dec 31, 2016 17:38:55 GMT
I think it was Marc Wilson. Don't know who the new defensive coach is.
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Post by milky on Dec 31, 2016 17:45:21 GMT
It's basic stuff..And if we don't eradicate it we could be in serious shit. It's a shame..in the last 3 (tough)away games we have shown up very well in spells but we are too easy to score against. Fuck knows what the answer is.... You are in good company then Mark and his team also have no idea of the answer. Sometimes it's just about desire. Not long before he scored Cahil won a header in our box up against FIVE of our players... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 18:31:19 GMT
We have to go back to 4 at the back with two or three in front. Away from home, with Shawcross playing I agree we also need Geoff in the middle who for me is a BIG miss.
At home I prefer the 3 at the back but without Shawcross he simply does not suit a 3.
Horses for courses isn't that why we have a SQAD of players.
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