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Post by AlbertTatlock on Dec 27, 2016 19:26:36 GMT
With Southgate watching on and that joke of a display by our captain he can kiss any lingering hope of an international career goodbye. Gouranga.  |
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Post by Stoke711 on Dec 27, 2016 19:27:31 GMT
No need to even go back to the keeper. Was under no pressure.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 19:27:36 GMT
It never started.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Dec 27, 2016 19:28:07 GMT
What England career???
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Dec 27, 2016 19:28:42 GMT
He was at fault for Firminhos goal as well. Gouranga. |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Dec 27, 2016 19:28:49 GMT
Stoke careers over as well.
Dreadful today.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 19:37:36 GMT
When you can't pass a ball your international career is always going to be limited.
I'd also argue that his positioning from crosses has always beenhis weak point and that's before his injury.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 27, 2016 19:38:08 GMT
He's never been good enough for International football, ever.
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Post by wuzza on Dec 27, 2016 19:39:53 GMT
International football should be the last thing on Ryan's mind.
The lad's got a career to resurrect in the domestic game.
I've still got faith he can get back.
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Post by loosestools on Dec 27, 2016 19:40:21 GMT
He's never been good enough for International football, ever. He did have a small window when he was execptional. Then Zlatan. |
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Post by barcaontrent on Dec 27, 2016 19:40:35 GMT
It ended when Zlatan left him on his arse
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Post by pottersrule on Dec 27, 2016 19:41:15 GMT
When you can't pass a ball your international career is always going to be limited. I'd also argue that his positioning from crosses has always. Even his weak point and that's before his injury. Distribution was awful today,did he complete any passes apart from unnecessary back passes? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 19:42:04 GMT
When you can't pass a ball your international career is always going to be limited. I'd also argue that his positioning from crosses has always. Even his weak point and that's before his injury. Distribution was awful today,did he complete any passes apart from unnecessary back passes? Nah most was the usual long ball to nothing. |
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Post by samba :) on Dec 27, 2016 19:44:30 GMT
When you can't pass a ball your international career is always going to be limited. I'd also argue that his positioning from crosses has always beenhis weak point and that's before his injury. higgo got into the gib side |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 19:45:51 GMT
Shawcross' whole game has been built on being fearless and ruthless. Put your body and head on the line at all times aka Huth.
When you lose this which he has since his back injury then you just become a slow pondering centre half with little else to offer.
He's also always been a poor captain, he's usually the first to drop his head when we concede instead of rallying the troops.
At the moment Indi is trying to cover the left back and Shawcross.
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Post by redwhite on Dec 27, 2016 19:46:41 GMT
I'm more bothered by his Stoke career. I think his poor performances get ignored far too often because of how much of a solid, reliable player he had become. I think we're going to have to start thinking seriously about his role in the team soon.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Dec 27, 2016 19:48:59 GMT
The bloke has been immense for SCFC - but that time has sadly gone.
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 27, 2016 19:55:15 GMT
Even though I want to think of Ryan as a potential player for the national side he hasn't been very close after his return. He has played a couple of good games, but hasn't been exceptional at all this season. Hopefully he'll pick up his game, but looked very uncomfortable today I must say!  |
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Post by muglump on Dec 27, 2016 20:01:04 GMT
I wouldn't pick him for our first team right now. Damn shame he was the best centre half of his generation. Hope he can be that again.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 27, 2016 20:03:24 GMT
Great servant but he's not good enough on the ball plus now he's lost his defensive side of the game too.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 20:07:41 GMT
He's never been good enough for International football, ever. I've always held this opinion and been absolutely slaughtered on here in the past for it. |
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Post by jarvinski on Dec 27, 2016 20:12:33 GMT
I'd have Mooney any day over him, his captaincy is shite as well
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Post by Jimm on Dec 27, 2016 20:15:49 GMT
He's never been good enough for International football, ever. 100% agree. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 27, 2016 20:20:26 GMT
Shawcross' whole game has been built on being fearless and ruthless. Put your body and head on the line at all times aka Huth. When you lose this which he has since his back injury then you just become a slow pondering centre half with little else to offer. He's also always been a poor captain, he's usually the first to drop his head when we concede instead of rallying the troops. At the moment Indi is trying to cover the left back and Shawcross. Well said |
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Post by northantsash on Dec 27, 2016 21:22:14 GMT
Muniesa needs reinstating ad
sap. Bruno as captain and get ryans back sorted once and for all
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 27, 2016 21:32:48 GMT
He's never been good enough for International football, ever. 100% agree. 100% disagree, short memories from many. There have been fewer better English Centre Backs over the past 7 or 8 years. He's nowhere near England material now but don't forget what a colossus he's been for us since we've had him. |
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Post by jeycov on Dec 27, 2016 21:35:53 GMT
He's got to the final game of the year without 5 yellows.
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Post by Old School Stokie on Dec 27, 2016 21:44:16 GMT
Do you mean that champagne 20 minutes when he got shown up for what he is.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 21:46:23 GMT
He's never been good enough for International football, ever. 100% agree. Congratulations |
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Post by mrred on Dec 27, 2016 21:46:29 GMT
He's never been good enough for International football, ever. Harsh words. Said he'd be done after his back surgery. It's downhill from here folks, get used to it. Remember that sentimentality will only get you so far in football? We needed to start looking for a replacement in the summer. |
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