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Imbula
Dec 27, 2016 19:24:55 GMT
Post by bombersheldon on Dec 27, 2016 19:24:55 GMT
He was awful even when we're 1 up was he on the pitch.is it confidence to me he didn't lock interest totally out of place! And the wind up merchants on about affelay you're having a laugh!!!
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Imbula
Dec 27, 2016 19:31:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 19:31:12 GMT
Nah, it's so obvious there's a supremely talented footballer in there. Which makes you question the management and coaching. Hughes has lost me tonight btw.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 19:32:01 GMT
Scapegoat, plenty of others were wank today.
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Post by upthefud on Dec 27, 2016 19:33:29 GMT
He was the most inept of a bad bunch. I'm sorry but if Adam Whelan or Walters played like that they'd be lynched
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Post by andyr on Dec 27, 2016 19:33:37 GMT
wouldn't trust Hughes to spend any more money
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Dec 27, 2016 19:33:41 GMT
Nah, it's so obvious there's a supremely talented footballer in there. Which makes you question the management and coaching. Hughes has lost me tonight btw. I'd be amazed if he ever makes it in the Premier league; talent for sure but just plays for himself far too often and loses the ball constantly his header leading to his og sums him up
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Post by mrrburgundy on Dec 27, 2016 19:41:40 GMT
Some players aren't good enough technically like Diouf, others mentally which I think is the category Imbula falls into. He's clearly talented but is either lacking confidence/motivation or isn't very intelligent on a football pitch. It's a shame because he could be excellent and we've seen flashes of it.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 27, 2016 19:42:37 GMT
Scapegoat, plenty of others were wank today. Not at all he offers us nothing in games like today
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Imbula
Dec 27, 2016 19:46:06 GMT
Post by Teanstokie1 on Dec 27, 2016 19:46:06 GMT
Imbula was poor but there was another 10 not a lot better.
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Imbula
Dec 27, 2016 19:46:19 GMT
Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Dec 27, 2016 19:46:19 GMT
Talented without a doubt. Flashes of brilliance for sure.
Been here before with signings that just didn't work out.
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Post by wuzza on Dec 27, 2016 19:46:51 GMT
Scapegoat, plenty of others were wank today. Don't like scapegoating at all but there is an undeniable truth here that that lad for whatever reason was completely ineffective - as is usually the case. Might be an issue with the current management but the glee with which Porto waved him goodbye suggests there is a more long standing issue.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 19:47:39 GMT
He was the most inept of a bad bunch. I'm sorry but if Adam Whelan or Walters played like that they'd be lynched They do, most weeks.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 27, 2016 19:48:07 GMT
He was the most inept of a bad bunch. I'm sorry but if Adam Whelan or Walters played like that they'd be lynched That's the problem they fucking do. Hughes has fallen into the lazy arsed trap the previous manager has by relying on ageing pros i.e. flogging a dead horse. They should of been replaced 3 years ago. Imbula can fuck right off as well, he's obviously no will to succeed at Stoke City. Shaq can carry his bags. We need 8 first teamers over the next two windows.
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Post by mitaffia on Dec 27, 2016 19:48:41 GMT
Imbula has a great deal of ability, just don't think he can bring it to the premier league. I believe he is more suited to playing in Spain or Italy, where he will be given more time in possession. He has struggled to increase his speed of play both with and without the ball, too often trying to run his way out of things which only encourage additional defenders to close him down and take the ball away.
Clear to see why he was bought, but how much longer can you persevere before trying to recoup some of the money. A signing that doesn't work out is not the end of the world, some players simply struggle to make the adjustments.
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Imbula
Dec 27, 2016 19:49:09 GMT
Post by stokie1954 on Dec 27, 2016 19:49:09 GMT
Some players aren't good enough technically like Diouf, others mentally which I think is the category Imbula falls into. He's clearly talented but is either lacking confidence/motivation or isn't very intelligent on a football pitch. It's a shame because he could be excellent and we've seen flashes of it. Agree. Surely though it is down to the management to address the issues that players have!.
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Imbula
Dec 27, 2016 19:49:09 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on Dec 27, 2016 19:49:09 GMT
Imbula got bags of talent, but if he can't learn to release the ball we have to get rid! He is very good with the ball, but most of the time he ends up losing it! Too often in dangerous positions as well! After Lpool scored their 4th he was a bit better, but then of course we had alredy lost the game!
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 27, 2016 19:49:39 GMT
I'd thought Imbula had improved lately. He is at least tracking back now. But he is not up to it at this level.
I'm done with him now
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Imbula
Dec 27, 2016 19:49:51 GMT
Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 19:49:51 GMT
He was the most inept of a bad bunch. I'm sorry but if Adam Whelan or Walters played like that they'd be lynched That's the problem they fucking do. Hughes has fallen into the lazy arsed trap the previous manager has by relying on ageing pros i.e. flogging a dead horse. They should of been replaced 3 years ago. Imbula can fuck right off as well, he's obviously no will to succeed at Stoke City. Shaq can carry his bags. We need 8 first teamers over the next two windows. Two questions mate. 1) Have the owners got the will to invest that level of money per se? 2) Will the owners back the manager? Our home grown core needs root and branching.
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Imbula
Dec 27, 2016 19:50:39 GMT
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Post by upthefud on Dec 27, 2016 19:50:39 GMT
He was the most inept of a bad bunch. I'm sorry but if Adam Whelan or Walters played like that they'd be lynched That's the problem they fucking do. Hughes has fallen into the lazy arsed trap the previous manager has by relying on ageing pros i.e. flogging a dead horse. They should of been replaced 3 years ago. Imbula can fuck right off as well, he's obviously no will to succeed at Stoke City. Shaq can carry his bags. We need 8 first teamers over the next two windows. Having aging pros around the squad isn't bad but we can't be relying on them to the extent we are. Imbula Shaq and I'll raise you with Bojan and Bony too. Watching these minders steal a living makes it even more farcical that Moses got so much stick here
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Imbula
Dec 27, 2016 19:50:52 GMT
Post by 19notbeaten72 on Dec 27, 2016 19:50:52 GMT
Sorry but Hughes transfers are awful both Shaqiri & Imbula have been poor signings & i would not trust him with anymore money.
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Imbula
Dec 27, 2016 19:50:53 GMT
Post by stokie1954 on Dec 27, 2016 19:50:53 GMT
He was the most inept of a bad bunch. I'm sorry but if Adam Whelan or Walters played like that they'd be lynched That's the problem they fucking do. Hughes has fallen into the lazy arsed trap the previous manager has by relying on ageing pros i.e. flogging a dead horse. They should of been replaced 3 years ago. Imbula can fuck right off as well, he's obviously no will to succeed at Stoke City. Shaq can carry his bags. We need 8 first teamers over the next two windows. Sums it up nicely!.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 19:51:36 GMT
As I keep saying in many threads which nobody has managed to answer.
What are people expecting from the lad when every time he gets the ball and tries to move forward there is zero options on?
His whole game is about picking the ball up and moving it forward, when that forward option isn't on and those either side or behind are useless it leaves him with little choice but to try and take his man.
Believe it or not he's not gonna walk past midfields everytime.
Put some decent players around him and not your Shawcross, Pieters, Whelan, Walters, Crouch and Diouf types and you will see a good player.
Until then he's gonna be a frustration as he can't play his game, it's piss poor management and t amazes me more people can't see it.
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Imbula
Dec 27, 2016 19:52:36 GMT
Post by wuzza on Dec 27, 2016 19:52:36 GMT
Imbula has a great deal of ability, just don't think he can bring it to the premier league. I believe he is more suited to playing in Spain or Italy, where he will be given more time in possession. He has struggled to increase his speed of play both with and without the ball, too often trying to run his way out of things which only encourage additional defenders to close him down and take the ball away. Clear to see why he was bought, but how much longer can you persevere before trying to recoup some of the money. A signing that doesn't work out is not the end of the world, some players simply struggle to make the adjustments. It sure as heck didn't work in Portugal for him!
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 27, 2016 19:55:26 GMT
That's the problem they fucking do. Hughes has fallen into the lazy arsed trap the previous manager has by relying on ageing pros i.e. flogging a dead horse. They should of been replaced 3 years ago. Imbula can fuck right off as well, he's obviously no will to succeed at Stoke City. Shaq can carry his bags. We need 8 first teamers over the next two windows. Two questions mate. 1) Have the owners got the will to invest that level of money per se? 2) Will the owners back the manager? Our home grown core needs root and branching. We're dripping in money, they either back the manager (whoever that may be come the summer) or tell him to use young players and hope they are good enough. The old manager and this manager will not play young players - it's got to come from the top. Why isn't N'Goy playing? Nobody is telling me he can't be less effective that Walters or Crouch. Verlinden? Supposedly one of Belgiums hottest properties. He'd be playing if he was at Southampton. I'm sick to death of seeing the likes of Walters and Whelan stinking the place out.
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Imbula
Dec 27, 2016 19:55:33 GMT
Post by wuzza on Dec 27, 2016 19:55:33 GMT
That's the problem they fucking do. Hughes has fallen into the lazy arsed trap the previous manager has by relying on ageing pros i.e. flogging a dead horse. They should of been replaced 3 years ago. Imbula can fuck right off as well, he's obviously no will to succeed at Stoke City. Shaq can carry his bags. We need 8 first teamers over the next two windows. Two questions mate. 1) Have the owners got the will to invest that level of money per se? 2) Will the owners back the manager? Our home grown core needs root and branching. Our home grown core has been screwed in part by a rubbish academy system for the past 10 years.
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Post by stokecitydom on Dec 27, 2016 19:57:02 GMT
Imbula is quite clearly a very talented footballer and I honestly think that he suffers with the complete lack of any attacking movement or options.
We are just so static. I would hate to be a stoke city central midfielder, it's a thankless task. Shakey at the back and static in attack.
Imbula was poor for the 3rd goal, but some of the abuse he gets is too far. He quite clearly is putting in the effort, just looks devoid of any belief.
Expect for Arnautovic, Hughes seems to really struggle to get the best out of any of the attack minded players
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Imbula
Dec 27, 2016 19:57:27 GMT
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 27, 2016 19:57:27 GMT
He was the most inept of a bad bunch. I'm sorry but if Adam Whelan or Walters played like that they'd be lynched That's the problem they fucking do. Hughes has fallen into the lazy arsed trap the previous manager has by relying on ageing pros i.e. flogging a dead horse. They should of been replaced 3 years ago. Imbula can fuck right off as well, he's obviously no will to succeed at Stoke City. Shaq can carry his bags. We need 8 first teamers over the next two windows. I actually find myself agreeing with you, the squad needs a total overhaul. You won't like this but though, I though Walters was one of the best players in a Stoke shirt tonight! But still we need significant improvement: Goalkeeper(s) 2/3 defenders, Ryan, Pieters, & Johnson no long term future Replacement for Whelan Imbula needs to be moved on Shaq seems to want to move on Bony, hopefully he'll (slowly) move on SJW, great servant but times up at this level Charlie not at the required level Diouf likeable make weight Afellay looked good when he came on, maybe keep him for another season or two Christ when you write it down its startling!!!!
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Imbula
Dec 27, 2016 19:58:44 GMT
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Post by stokecitydom on Dec 27, 2016 19:58:44 GMT
As I keep saying in many threads which nobody has managed to answer. What are people expecting from the lad when every time he gets the ball and tries to move forward there is zero options on? His whole game is about picking the ball up and moving it forward, when that forward option isn't on and those either side or behind are useless it leaves him with little choice but to try and take his man. Believe it or not he's not gonna walk past midfields everytime. Put some decent players around him and not your Shawcross, Pieters, Whelan, Walters, Crouch and Diouf types and you will see a good player. Until then he's gonna be a frustration as he can't play his game, it's piss poor management and t amazes me more people can't see it. You just beat me to that. Nail on the head mate. Some pace, movement etc around him and he will flourish. We desperately need a midfield destroyer in there too. Someone with abit of physicality.
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Imbula
Dec 27, 2016 20:00:11 GMT
Post by wuzza on Dec 27, 2016 20:00:11 GMT
Two questions mate. 1) Have the owners got the will to invest that level of money per se? 2) Will the owners back the manager? Our home grown core needs root and branching. We're dripping in money, they either back the manager (whoever that may be come the summer) or tell him to use young players and hope they are good enough. The old manager and this manager will not play young players - it's got to come from the top. Why isn't N'Goy playing? Nobody is telling me he can't be less effective that Walters or Crouch. Verlinden? Supposedly one of Belgiums hottest properties. He'd be playing if he was at Southampton. I'm sick to death of seeing the likes of Walters and Whelan stinking the place out. Why doesn't our under 23 side win many games if these lads are the real deal? I can understand why you like the idea of having youngsters in the side in principle but the practice tends to be rather more problematic and this current side simply doesn't have the wherewithal to carry anyone through an 'induction period' at the moment. We still have a lot of very basic hard work to do to ensure our survival in the top flight.
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Imbula
Dec 27, 2016 20:01:56 GMT
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Post by stokiejoe on Dec 27, 2016 20:01:56 GMT
there is a talented player in there and in the right team he will thrive. Sadly don't believe Stoke to be that team.
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