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Post by Clem Fandango on Dec 23, 2016 16:23:02 GMT
I'd take the crazy step of trying diouf or Joselu for longer than two games before deciding if we'd need a striker.
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Post by alster on Dec 23, 2016 16:27:39 GMT
I'd take the crazy step of trying diouf or Joselu for longer than two games before deciding if we'd need a striker. One of them doesn't have the heart for the battle the other is hopeless at football we need a striker.
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Post by Gods on Dec 23, 2016 17:00:02 GMT
I guess the first priority is for us to hopefully buy Bruno Martins Indi, so we need find that money first. Didn't realise finding the money was a problem we spent way less than the teams we're competing with in the Summer. The wage bill is an issue but there again our bench must be costing us getting on for £500K a week, money well spent NOT. I didn't say it was a problem I said it was the priority. The OP asked how we would raise millions to buy new players. I was making the point that the first £10 million of whatever it proves to be that we either raise or already have should go on Bruno and not these roles "15 goal a season striker plus a left-back, goalkeeper, defensive midfielder and back-up" to which he referred.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 23, 2016 17:04:32 GMT
I'd take the crazy step of trying diouf or Joselu for longer than two games before deciding if we'd need a striker. One of them doesn't have the heart for the battle the other is hopeless at football we need a striker. It doesn't say much when the one who is hopeless at football actually scored more goals in one season than any other player who has played up front of us during our time in the Premier League. This despite the fact that he played more games wide than he did up front and the fact that he missed at least a month of the season due to the ACON. If he is hopeless at football, how shit must the rest of our forwards have been, particularly the ones we have at our disposal currently, who can barely muster a goal between them?
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Post by Clem Fandango on Dec 23, 2016 17:11:18 GMT
I'd take the crazy step of trying diouf or Joselu for longer than two games before deciding if we'd need a striker. One of them doesn't have the heart for the battle the other is hopeless at football we need a striker. Diouf has shown that he knows where the net is though despite being a terrible footballer and Joselu has hardly been given the time that Shaq or Bojan have to adapt to the league. Sadly I wouldn't trust the manager with 30 mill for a striker
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Post by thevoid on Dec 23, 2016 17:16:36 GMT
It's time to move Walters and Crouch on now. Crouch must be one of our highest earners.
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Post by jezzascfc on Dec 23, 2016 17:21:47 GMT
It's time to move Walters and Crouch on now. Crouch must be one of our highest earners. Crouch re-signed for a substantially lower wage in his new contract, reflecting his age and status as cover.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Dec 23, 2016 17:27:02 GMT
selling Wollscheid, Afellay, Ireland, Crouch, Haugaard, Given and at a push Adam? You'd be lucky to give them away. well Afellay, Crouch, Given & Ireland are out of contract I believe (and Teixeira forgot about him) Wollscheid might find another german club and Haugaard can go work in the club shop.
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 23, 2016 17:27:54 GMT
Crouch £2-3M, time to cash in! Bojan £7-8M, very good at his best, but really too weak and too slow for the PL + no ability to defend. Joselu £6-8M Adam £3-4M if we can bring in an upgrade! Muni £4-5M, too injury prone so I would replace him. Cameron £3-4M, too injury prone as well! Wolly £2M, could be one of our back up defenders, but would he be satisfied with that? Shaq £15M, if we could bring in a young winger with more pace and defensive quality I would listen to offers. Bards £1.5M, we need at least one of our right backs to be younger and not too injury prone. Maybe Diouf could be the one!? Ireland £1M Given, release! Haugaard, release! Tex, release!
In: a goalkeeper (Grant?) a striker two defenders
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Post by alster on Dec 23, 2016 17:38:25 GMT
One of them doesn't have the heart for the battle the other is hopeless at football we need a striker. It doesn't say much when the one who is hopeless at football actually scored more goals in one season than any other player who has played up front of us during our time in the Premier League. This despite the fact that he played more games wide than he did up front and the fact that he missed at least a month of the season due to the ACON. If he is hopeless at football, how shit must the rest of our forwards have been, particularly the ones we have at our disposal currently, who can barely muster a goal between them? Very.
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Post by alster on Dec 23, 2016 17:42:33 GMT
One of them doesn't have the heart for the battle the other is hopeless at football we need a striker. Diouf has shown that he knows where the net is though despite being a terrible footballer and Joselu has hardly been given the time that Shaq or Bojan have to adapt to the league. Sadly I wouldn't trust the manager with 30 mill for a striker I agree x2. I would have given Diouf a run of games myself and agree he would probably score more goals than our other strikers but the fact remains he's so poor when he has any time to think it must affect his team mates confidence in him.
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Post by dave77 on Dec 23, 2016 17:46:51 GMT
List of players we should 100% sell if a reasonable offer came along.
Joselu Bojan Ireland Haugaard and cancel Bonys loan.
The rest I would keep.
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Post by samba :) on Dec 23, 2016 17:50:02 GMT
ok we still need that 15 goal a season striker plus a left-back, goalkeeper, defensive midfielder and back-up winger. SOOOOO assuming we cant buy all of those players and we need to get some transfer funds in first, who would you sell at what price? Joe Allen - 25M Must have increased now given his goals and assists Shawcross - 20M still 5 good years left in him Shaqiri - 18M - still 4 years left on his contract Arnautovic - 16M - consistent goals/assists and signed a new contract recently Imbula - 15M could we get 15m for him? Diouf - 10M Bojan - 8M due to his 5 year contract and "potential" at 26 Butland - 5M long-term injury but hes still very young Joselu - 4M Adam - 4M Pieters - 3M Crouch - 2M Walters - 2M Muniesa - 2M Johnsen - 2M Ireland - 2M Affelay - 1M Bardsley - 1M Say you gotta raise 30M to buy the players we need in January. Who do you sell?? Ireland is worth double affeley? What fucken planet are you on
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Post by alster on Dec 23, 2016 17:50:20 GMT
It's time to move Walters and Crouch on now. Crouch must be one of our highest earners. Crouch re-signed for a substantially lower wage in his new contract, reflecting his age and status as cover. However much it was it was too much. Collecting all these old players will bite us on the arse extending him for another year will only make matters worse. As a club we're not prolific in concluding transfers we're going to end up having to sign 6 or 7 players in a window just to keep our heads above water.
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Post by modfather on Dec 23, 2016 18:05:32 GMT
Keep crouch and use him more. He's the record scorer of headers in prem history. Use him and get some crosses in for fuck sake
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Post by SCFC12 on Dec 23, 2016 18:44:24 GMT
Mousse sissoko cost 30 million. Oscar's leaving for 60 million. I think you'll find our best players will cost a lot more than you think.
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Post by SCFC12 on Dec 23, 2016 18:47:39 GMT
I swear the majority of people on here want tony pulis back
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Post by kustokie on Dec 23, 2016 18:53:24 GMT
Butland - 20M Joe Allen - 18M Shaqiri - 15M Arnautovic - 15M Shawcross - 10M Imbula - 8M Diouf - 5M Bojan - 5M Joselu - 4M Adam - 3M Pieters - 3M Muniesa - 2M Cameron - 2M Walters - 1.5M Johnson - 1.5M Whelan - 1.5M Ireland - 1M Affelay - 1M Bardsley - 1M Crouch - 0.75M I've revised your amounts (and you forgot Whelan and Cameron), but still find it hard to say who to sell, certainly if we want to recoup 30 mill. We could sell around the fringes of the first team, but not bring in more than about 10 mill. We would need to sell at least one of the top 5 on that list, which we should not be considering unless we received a stupid offer and had a suitable replacement lined up first. Given their present medical issues (and in the case of Shawcross, his age). I doubt we'd get anywhere near 30 million for Butland and Shawcross.
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Post by kustokie on Dec 23, 2016 19:01:31 GMT
Who they sell will be determined by who they sign.
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Post by jezzascfc on Dec 23, 2016 19:04:14 GMT
Butland - 20M Joe Allen - 18M Shaqiri - 15M Arnautovic - 15M Shawcross - 10M Imbula - 8M Diouf - 5M Bojan - 5M Joselu - 4M Adam - 3M Pieters - 3M Muniesa - 2M Cameron - 2M Walters - 1.5M Johnson - 1.5M Whelan - 1.5M Ireland - 1M Affelay - 1M Bardsley - 1M Crouch - 0.75M I've revised your amounts (and you forgot Whelan and Cameron), but still find it hard to say who to sell, certainly if we want to recoup 30 mill. We could sell around the fringes of the first team, but not bring in more than about 10 mill. We would need to sell at least one of the top 5 on that list, which we should not be considering unless we received a stupid offer and had a suitable replacement lined up first. Given their present medical issues (and in the case of Shawcross, his age). I doubt we'd get anywhere near 30 million for Butland and Shawcross. Remind me again how much Everton paid for Ashley Williams? *Cough* 12 million!
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Post by cheadlepotter on Dec 23, 2016 19:05:55 GMT
Some folk have clearly started their Christmas celebrations judging by this thread!
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Post by kustokie on Dec 23, 2016 19:11:29 GMT
Given their present medical issues (and in the case of Shawcross, his age). I doubt we'd get anywhere near 30 million for Butland and Shawcross. Remind me again how much Everton paid for Ashley Williams? *Cough* 12 million! Good point. However, must teams making a January signing are looking to fill a short-term gap with a player that hit the ground running. That automatically rules out Butland. There's no way we'll part with Shawcross because we are already light at that position. So you can't really put a price on him.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 23, 2016 19:15:16 GMT
Mousse sissoko cost 30 million. Oscar's leaving for 60 million. I think you'll find our best players will cost a lot more than you think. We sold the spine of a premiership team ,keeper , centre half and centre midfield for £18m two went on to win the europa league and premiership respectively I wouldn't bank on us getting anything like market rate
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Post by fourfourtwo on Dec 23, 2016 19:38:36 GMT
We may as well sell the bench if Hughes decides not to make subs again
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Post by kustokie on Dec 23, 2016 20:11:01 GMT
It's time to move Walters and Crouch on now. Crouch must be one of our highest earners. MAYBE, we can afford to let one of those go IF we sign a decent striker in January. Otherwise. The only strikers we have are Diouf, Bojan and Bony. For some reason Hughes doesn't trust either Bojan or Diouf up front, and Bony has been a complete dud so far.
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Post by Saul Krakinov on Dec 23, 2016 20:19:01 GMT
We surely ain't ever getting ANY money for Ireland!!!
I'd look to move Ireland, Adam, Shakiri, Joselu, Crouch, Haugaard, Given and Wollscheid on for whatever we could get.
Obviously we would then need to address the goalkeeping positions absolute minimum
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Post by thevoid on Dec 23, 2016 20:43:05 GMT
It's time to move Walters and Crouch on now. Crouch must be one of our highest earners. MAYBE, we can afford to let one of those go IF we sign a decent striker in January. Otherwise. The only strikers we have are Diouf, Bojan and Bony. For some reason Hughes doesn't trust either Bojan or Diouf up front, and Bony has been a complete dud so far. It's a shoddy position to be in really.
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Post by themistocles on Dec 23, 2016 21:05:52 GMT
You'd be lucky to give them away. well Afellay, Crouch, Given & Ireland are out of contract I believe (and Teixeira forgot about him) Wollscheid might find another german club and Haugaard can go work in the club shop. You forgot about Teixeira 😂😂😂 You do know he's your username
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Dec 23, 2016 22:09:33 GMT
well Afellay, Crouch, Given & Ireland are out of contract I believe (and Teixeira forgot about him) Wollscheid might find another german club and Haugaard can go work in the club shop. You forgot about Teixeira 😂😂😂 You do know he's your username had a mare there...
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Post by superheroantonius on Dec 24, 2016 11:34:35 GMT
Bony Bojan and Imbula can't be arsed so best they go Given and haugaard might care but are no where near good enough so they can go to They are so bad, I think it would cost us more to cancel their contracts than we might receive in revenue. Which shows you how useful they are.
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