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Post by bathstoke on Dec 22, 2016 9:41:21 GMT
I've been watching the Battle of Waterloo on Time Commander(BBC catch-up) What an abomination! HTF That Lynette thinks she can wear a dark floral print on man made fibre with his skin tone is beyond me. What would fans of Abba say!?!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 9:50:19 GMT
I'm with you on this bath Thought it may have been semi decent but, it was cringe tv from the BBC Not quite as bad as 'This time next year' with Davina on itv...... Davina...."What are you going to do " Bus drive..."within 12 months I'm going to get a girlfriend"  |
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Post by Northy on Dec 22, 2016 9:50:38 GMT
Ive recorded it and the series, haven't watched it yet so no spoliers to who won
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 9:54:00 GMT
Ive recorded it and the series, haven't watched it yet so no spoliers to who won Suffice to say.....it was a damn close run thing  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 10:15:01 GMT
Ive recorded it and the series, haven't watched it yet so no spoliers to who won Suffice to say.....it was a damn close run thing Thank god for the Germans ( Prussians ) ....who'd 'have thought it Nige ?  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 10:42:41 GMT
Suffice to say.....it was a damn close run thing Thank god for the Germans ( Prussians ) ....who'd 'have thought it Nige ? We'd have been orayt......it was only the frogs I like to think the Germans only popped their heads over the hedge when they heard the old guard were on the run |
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Post by mattador78 on Dec 22, 2016 14:14:52 GMT
My knowledge of waterloo is pretty much sharpe the book not tv related and a few snippets in a book called warrior nation,cracking read about the british isles history of warfare as you can imagine its quite a large volume. Am i right in saying that the holding of the farm house was quite pivitol in the overall scheme. Ps not watched the new time commanders any good?
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Post by Northy on Dec 22, 2016 14:22:02 GMT
My knowledge of waterloo is pretty much sharpe the book not tv related and a few snippets in a book called warrior nation,cracking read about the british isles history of warfare as you can imagine its quite a large volume. Am i right in saying that the holding of the farm house was quite pivitol in the overall scheme. Ps not watched the new time commanders any good? Ive seena few things on the TV about it, and the farmhouse was mentioned as a pivitol point in the battle. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 14:46:37 GMT
My knowledge of waterloo is pretty much sharpe the book not tv related and a few snippets in a book called warrior nation,cracking read about the british isles history of warfare as you can imagine its quite a large volume. Am i right in saying that the holding of the farm house was quite pivitol in the overall scheme. Ps not watched the new time commanders any good? Ive seena few things on the TV about it, and the farmhouse was mentioned as a pivitol point in the battle. It was indeed . |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 14:48:22 GMT
Thank god for the Germans ( Prussians ) ....who'd 'have thought it Nige ? We'd have been orayt......it was only the frogs I like to think the Germans only popped their heads over the hedge when they heard the old guard were on the run Marshal Blucher and his Prussians were pivotal in us winning at Waterloo mate . |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 16:25:17 GMT
We'd have been orayt......it was only the frogs I like to think the Germans only popped their heads over the hedge when they heard the old guard were on the run Marshal Blucher and his Prussians were pivotal in us winning at Waterloo mate . Just playing bisp That's one piece of history I'm comfortable with Bloody love it...My favourite era |
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Post by bathstoke on Dec 22, 2016 16:44:21 GMT
Now that Millwall supporting potatohead, Greg Wallace is the presenter, do you think they'll be covering the Battles of London Bridge & the Tropics!?!
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Post by bigvigs on Dec 22, 2016 17:26:30 GMT
My knowledge of waterloo is pretty much sharpe the book not tv related and a few snippets in a book called warrior nation,cracking read about the british isles history of warfare as you can imagine its quite a large volume. Am i right in saying that the holding of the farm house was quite pivitol in the overall scheme. Ps not watched the new time commanders any good? Two main reasons the French lost were: First of all that two days before the Battle of Waterloo, the French routed the Prussians at Ligny with the Prussians retreating towards Wavre. Napoleon sent Marshall Grouchy with 25,000 men to chase them back to Prussia. Grouchy didn't engage the Prussians, allowed them to regroup and then arrive at Waterloo in the late afternoon at the crucial time of the battle. Secondly, before the Prussians arrived, the French should have routed the Allies when Marshall Ney, without orders from Napoleon (who was suffering with piles!!), charged the Allied Squares without the support of the Infantry or Close Artillery. Had Ney brought up the Infantry and Supporting Artillery instead of leading fruitless charge after charge against the Squares then they would probably have routed the Allies before the Prussians arrived. Napoleon would then turn all his forces towards the Prussians. However, even if he had defeated the Prussians and Allies the Austrians and Russians were on their way. I agree that Time Commanders is all Gloss and No Substance. By the way Lynette Neusbacher was Aryeh Neusbacher in the first series he/she is still working on their dress sense!! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 18:37:58 GMT
The book by Bernard Cornwell: Waterloo. The history of four days, three armies and three battles Can be a little heavy going with formations etc but, very detailed with actual personal stories from some that were there I was originally drawn to the napoleonic era through Michael bentines potty time version of Waterloo I was very young |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 21:03:50 GMT
Marshal Blucher and his Prussians were pivotal in us winning at Waterloo mate . Just playing bisp That's one piece of history I'm comfortable with Bloody love it...My favourite era I suspected as much , a favourite of mine too , I remember you once had Wellington as your avatar I think ? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 21:25:14 GMT
Just playing bisp That's one piece of history I'm comfortable with Bloody love it...My favourite era I suspected as much , a favourite of mine too , I remember you once had Wellington as your avatar I think ? yeh, I think I did mate.....Brutal yet fascinating times |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 21:31:55 GMT
I suspected as much , a favourite of mine too , I remember you once had Wellington as your avatar I think ? yeh, I think I did mate.....Brutal yet fascinating times I've got a very good biography of Wellington by the late Richard Holmes .....worth reading and another Wellington at Waterloo by Jac Weller ....both recommended and available on Amazon .....Richard Holmes is a superb writer on the period ....he fronted the TVs series " War Walks " a few years back . |
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Post by Northy on Dec 22, 2016 21:34:13 GMT
The book by Bernard Cornwell: Waterloo. The history of four days, three armies and three battles Can be a little heavy going with formations etc but, very detailed with actual personal stories from some that were there I was originally drawn to the napoleonic era through Michael bentines potty time version of Waterloo I was very young Bentines potty time, I'd forgotten about that  those little blows of air in the dirt as if something was walking 😀 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 21:36:32 GMT
My knowledge of waterloo is pretty much sharpe the book not tv related and a few snippets in a book called warrior nation,cracking read about the british isles history of warfare as you can imagine its quite a large volume. Am i right in saying that the holding of the farm house was quite pivitol in the overall scheme. Ps not watched the new time commanders any good? Two main reasons the French lost were: First of all that two days before the Battle of Waterloo, the French routed the Prussians at Ligny with the Prussians retreating towards Wavre. Napoleon sent Marshall Grouchy with 25,000 men to chase them back to Prussia. Grouchy didn't engage the Prussians, allowed them to regroup and then arrive at Waterloo in the late afternoon at the crucial time of the battle. Secondly, before the Prussians arrived, the French should have routed the Allies when Marshall Ney, without orders from Napoleon (who was suffering with piles!!), charged the Allied Squares without the support of the Infantry or Close Artillery. Had Ney brought up the Infantry and Supporting Artillery instead of leading fruitless charge after charge against the Squares then they would probably have routed the Allies before the Prussians arrived. Napoleon would then turn all his forces towards the Prussians. However, even if he had defeated the Prussians and Allies the Austrians and Russians were on their way. I agree that Time Commanders is all Gloss and No Substance. By the way Lynette Neusbacher was Aryeh Neusbacher in the first series he/she is still working on their dress sense!! Excellent assessment of the events that transpired  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 21:39:33 GMT
The book by Bernard Cornwell: Waterloo. The history of four days, three armies and three battles Can be a little heavy going with formations etc but, very detailed with actual personal stories from some that were there I was originally drawn to the napoleonic era through Michael bentines potty time version of Waterloo I was very young Good book which I've got , Cornwall doesnt bridge the gap between fiction and non fiction as well as you would hope though with this appraisal .....considering his track record with the Sharpe series I'd have expected a better effort though . |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 21:40:54 GMT
yeh, I think I did mate.....Brutal yet fascinating times I've got a very good biography of Wellington by the late Richard Holmes .....worth reading and another Wellington at Waterloo by Jac Weller ....both recommended and available on Amazon .....Richard Holmes is a superb writer on the period ....he fronted the TVs series " War Walks " a few years back . Yeh I watched the war walks too Glad you recommend them, because I've always hesitated on the Waterloo one, along with Wellington in India Will definitely get them now If you're lying I'll egg your windows  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 21:41:57 GMT
The book by Bernard Cornwell: Waterloo. The history of four days, three armies and three battles Can be a little heavy going with formations etc but, very detailed with actual personal stories from some that were there I was originally drawn to the napoleonic era through Michael bentines potty time version of Waterloo I was very young Bentines potty time, I'd forgotten about that those little blows of air in the dirt as if something was walking 😀 I had a great imagination......according to my teachers |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 21:44:52 GMT
I've got a very good biography of Wellington by the late Richard Holmes .....worth reading and another Wellington at Waterloo by Jac Weller ....both recommended and available on Amazon .....Richard Holmes is a superb writer on the period ....he fronted the TVs series " War Walks " a few years back . Yeh I watched the war walks too Glad you recommend them, because I've always hesitated on the Waterloo one, along with Wellington in India Will definitely get them now If you're lying I'll egg your windows Would I ever ? ....try Redcoat as well it's of the same ilk |
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Post by bigvigs on Dec 22, 2016 23:04:24 GMT
Two main reasons the French lost were: First of all that two days before the Battle of Waterloo, the French routed the Prussians at Ligny with the Prussians retreating towards Wavre. Napoleon sent Marshall Grouchy with 25,000 men to chase them back to Prussia. Grouchy didn't engage the Prussians, allowed them to regroup and then arrive at Waterloo in the late afternoon at the crucial time of the battle. Secondly, before the Prussians arrived, the French should have routed the Allies when Marshall Ney, without orders from Napoleon (who was suffering with piles!!), charged the Allied Squares without the support of the Infantry or Close Artillery. Had Ney brought up the Infantry and Supporting Artillery instead of leading fruitless charge after charge against the Squares then they would probably have routed the Allies before the Prussians arrived. Napoleon would then turn all his forces towards the Prussians. However, even if he had defeated the Prussians and Allies the Austrians and Russians were on their way. I agree that Time Commanders is all Gloss and No Substance. By the way Lynette Neusbacher was Aryeh Neusbacher in the first series he/she is still working on their dress sense!! Excellent assessment of the events that transpired Thank you. I have had a fascination with Waterloo and all things Napoleonic for many years. My Avatar is the painting "Quatre Bras" by Lady Elizabeth Butler which shows the 28th Gloucester Regiment,in square, repelling the French cavalry at the battle fought tow days before Waterloo on 16th June. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 23:31:42 GMT
Excellent assessment of the events that transpired Thank you. I have had a fascination with Waterloo and all things Napoleonic for many years. My Avatar is the painting "Quatre Bras" by Lady Elizabeth Butler which shows the 28th Gloucester Regiment,in square, repelling the French cavalry at the battle fought tow days before Waterloo on 16th June. My pleasure ....I know what your avatar is ...excellent choice it is too ....if I were to have a similar it would be ' The Charge of The Scots Greys ' of which I do have a print framed on the wall at home . |
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Post by bigvigs on Dec 23, 2016 1:05:47 GMT
Thank you. I have had a fascination with Waterloo and all things Napoleonic for many years. My Avatar is the painting "Quatre Bras" by Lady Elizabeth Butler which shows the 28th Gloucester Regiment,in square, repelling the French cavalry at the battle fought tow days before Waterloo on 16th June. My pleasure ....I know what your avatar is ...excellent choice it is too ....if I were to have a similar it would be ' The Charge of The Scots Greys ' of which I do have a print framed on the wall at home . I have a framed print of Scotland Forever (aka The Charge of the Scots Greys) as well & also "The Meeting of Wellington and Blucher after the Battle of Waterloo" by Daniel Maclise. I saw the original painting of Scotland Forever at the Royal Armouries in Leeds during their Waterloo Exhibition in 2015. If you visit the Leeds Royal Armouries they also have the smaller scale model made by Siborne of the Battle of Waterloo (The larger model is in the National Army Museum in London). The Siborne “Small” Model shows the area around the Brussels-Wavre crossroads including the farm of La Haye Sainte where, during the second phase of the battle of Waterloo at 1.30pm to 2.30pm (Sunday 18 June 1815), Picton’s Division engaged the Divisions of Donzelot, Alix and Marcognet, while the farm itself was still held by the Kings German Legion. This is not to be confused with Siborne’s “Large” model which depicted the entire Waterloo battlefield.The figures in the modelare approximately 25mm scale and there are over 6,500 figures (Infantry, Cavalry, and Guns & Carriages) on an accurate topography of the battle field. There is an excellent book "Wellington's Smallest Victory: The Story of William Siborne & Great Model of Waterloo: The Duke, the Model Maker and the Secret of Waterloo" by Peter Hofschroer which details how Siborne wrote to hundreds of people involved in the battle, surveyed the battle field and made a fully accurate model of the entire battlefield. However, Wellington objected to the presence of too many Prussians on the Model and insisted on a large proportion of their army being removed so as not to detract from "his" victory!! Apologies for boring anyone not interested in Waterloo!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2016 9:58:23 GMT
My pleasure ....I know what your avatar is ...excellent choice it is too ....if I were to have a similar it would be ' The Charge of The Scots Greys ' of which I do have a print framed on the wall at home . I have a framed print of Scotland Forever (aka The Charge of the Scots Greys) as well & also "The Meeting of Wellington and Blucher after the Battle of Waterloo" by Daniel Maclise. I saw the original painting of Scotland Forever at the Royal Armouries in Leeds during their Waterloo Exhibition in 2015. If you visit the Leeds Royal Armouries they also have the smaller scale model made by Siborne of the Battle of Waterloo (The larger model is in the National Army Museum in London). The Siborne “Small” Model shows the area around the Brussels-Wavre crossroads including the farm of La Haye Sainte where, during the second phase of the battle of Waterloo at 1.30pm to 2.30pm (Sunday 18 June 1815), Picton’s Division engaged the Divisions of Donzelot, Alix and Marcognet, while the farm itself was still held by the Kings German Legion. This is not to be confused with Siborne’s “Large” model which depicted the entire Waterloo battlefield.The figures in the modelare approximately 25mm scale and there are over 6,500 figures (Infantry, Cavalry, and Guns & Carriages) on an accurate topography of the battle field. There is an excellent book "Wellington's Smallest Victory: The Story of William Siborne & Great Model of Waterloo: The Duke, the Model Maker and the Secret of Waterloo" by Peter Hofschroer which details how Siborne wrote to hundreds of people involved in the battle, surveyed the battle field and made a fully accurate model of the entire battlefield. However, Wellington objected to the presence of too many Prussians on the Model and insisted on a large proportion of their army being removed so as not to detract from "his" victory!! Apologies for boring anyone not interested in Waterloo!!! I was at the Royal Armouries in September. .Dont apologise for any interest in history ....it should be made compulsory |
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Post by Skankmonkey on Dec 23, 2016 11:29:54 GMT
My knowledge of waterloo is pretty much sharpe the book not tv related and a few snippets in a book called warrior nation,cracking read about the british isles history of warfare as you can imagine its quite a large volume. Am i right in saying that the holding of the farm house was quite pivitol in the overall scheme. Ps not watched the new time commanders any good? I thought the first one concerning The Battle of Zama 202 BC was better. The battlefield action was easier to follow anyway. The Waterloo one pretty much descended into chaos from what I could see.
If I was eight years old again I would probably have thought they were great mind. I'd likely have been inspired to pick a history book up and buy the entire set of plastic AIRFIX HO/OO model soldiers again!
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Post by mattador78 on Dec 23, 2016 12:24:41 GMT
My knowledge of waterloo is pretty much sharpe the book not tv related and a few snippets in a book called warrior nation,cracking read about the british isles history of warfare as you can imagine its quite a large volume. Am i right in saying that the holding of the farm house was quite pivitol in the overall scheme. Ps not watched the new time commanders any good? I thought the first one concerning The Battle of Zama 202 BC was better. The battlefield action was easier to follow anyway. The Waterloo one pretty much descended into chaos from what I could see.
If I was eight years old again I would probably have thought they were great mind. I'd likely have been inspired to pick a history book up and buy the entire set of plastic AIRFIX HO/OO model soldiers again!
Love the total war games on pc which they use for time commanders inspired buy a mouse for my laptop and fire them up on my steam account again as i already own them. I read recently the secret history of the mongols a brilliant read some of the mongol generals were savants for warfare thankfully everytime they got close to us the khan died and they all trooped of home lol |
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Post by mattador78 on Dec 23, 2016 12:30:53 GMT
My knowledge of waterloo is pretty much sharpe the book not tv related and a few snippets in a book called warrior nation,cracking read about the british isles history of warfare as you can imagine its quite a large volume. Am i right in saying that the holding of the farm house was quite pivitol in the overall scheme. Ps not watched the new time commanders any good? I thought the first one concerning The Battle of Zama 202 BC was better. The battlefield action was easier to follow anyway. The Waterloo one pretty much descended into chaos from what I could see.
If I was eight years old again I would probably have thought they were great mind. I'd likely have been inspired to pick a history book up and buy the entire set of plastic AIRFIX HO/OO model soldiers again!
Conn igguldens books on Caesar and the mongols are cracking reads in the sharpe moulds facty fiction |
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