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Post by JC9 on Dec 18, 2016 0:50:01 GMT
Said it before and I'll say it again, Ryan is not a captain.
Doesn't lead the team, Doesn't organise the team, Doesn't motivate the team.
When Leicester scored both goals (especially the first), he didn't take charge and motivate the team to make sure we hold on to the lead. He just looked at the floor and strolled back to his position. That is not what a captain does.
In comparison with Whelan, now he might not be the most favourited player at the club but he is very important to our squad and demands the team, ordering players to move around the pitch. Shouting, controlling, motivating. This is what a captain should do.
Ryan has been our skipper for 6 years now but in my eyes, if we pass the armband onto someone else, he wouldn't have the captain responsibility which would allow him to develop and improve as a player.
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Post by samba :) on Dec 18, 2016 0:54:38 GMT
Funny how hes been a great captain for nearly ten years and one of the longest reigning in the premier league
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Post by JC9 on Dec 18, 2016 0:57:21 GMT
Funny how hes been a great captain for nearly ten years and one of the longest reigning in the premier league I agree, HAS BEEN. Him and Huth were rock solid but he's not the same player now. |
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Post by samba :) on Dec 18, 2016 0:59:59 GMT
Funny how hes been a great captain for nearly ten years and one of the longest reigning in the premier league I agree, HAS BEEN. Him and Huth were rock solid but he's not the same player now. i heard the quote "one of them new fans" in the ground today. I found it a completely stupendous thing to say to brand yourself superior to another supporter. So in the most polite manner, how long have you been a stoke city regular? |
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Post by PotterLog on Dec 18, 2016 1:01:21 GMT
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Post by JC9 on Dec 18, 2016 1:01:58 GMT
I agree, HAS BEEN. Him and Huth were rock solid but he's not the same player now. i heard the quote "one of them new fans" in the ground today. I found it a completely stupendous thing to say to brand yourself superior to another supporter. So in the most polite manner, how long have you been a stoke city regular? Been a season ticket holder since I was 7 fella. |
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Post by StokieNath on Dec 18, 2016 1:05:07 GMT
At the end of the day it doesn't matter if he's captain or not.
If he's not giving it 100% then he doesn't deserve to play week in week out.
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Post by Davef on Dec 18, 2016 1:07:33 GMT
At the end of the day it doesn't matter if he's captain or not. If he's not giving it 100% then he doesn't deserve to play week in week out. Are you seriously suggesting that Ryan Shawcross doesn't give 100% in every game he plays? |
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Post by JC9 on Dec 18, 2016 1:08:31 GMT
At the end of the day it doesn't matter if he's captain or not. If he's not giving it 100% then he doesn't deserve to play week in week out. He does give 100% effort in my opinion mate, however just not captain material for me. |
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Post by StokieNath on Dec 18, 2016 1:08:34 GMT
At the end of the day it doesn't matter if he's captain or not. If he's not giving it 100% then he doesn't deserve to play week in week out. Are you seriously suggesting that Ryan Shawcross doesn't give 100% in every game he plays? Yes, mentally and physically. For me he's low on confidence |
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Post by Davef on Dec 18, 2016 1:10:14 GMT
Are you seriously suggesting that Ryan Shawcross doesn't give 100% in every game he plays? Yes, mentally and physically. For me he's low on confidence Then, with respect, you're talking out of your arsehole. |
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Post by StokieNath on Dec 18, 2016 1:13:18 GMT
Yes, mentally and physically. For me he's low on confidence Then, with respect, you're talking out of your arsehole. because my opinion isn't the same as yours? Stop crying and grow up. |
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Post by Davef on Dec 18, 2016 1:28:46 GMT
Then, with respect, you're talking out of your arsehole. because my opinion isn't the same as yours? Stop crying and grow up. You're obviously having trouble differentiating between form and commitment. Anybody questioning Ryan Shawcross's commitment to Stoke City is a moron. If that offends you, tough shit. |
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Post by StokieNath on Dec 18, 2016 1:30:29 GMT
because my opinion isn't the same as yours? Stop crying and grow up. You're obviously having trouble differentiating between form and commitment. Anybody questioning Ryan Shawcross's commitment to Stoke City is a moron. If that offends you, tough shit. He doesn't give a fuck like the rest of them. If him and his mates cared then we might have had 3pts |
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Post by Davef on Dec 18, 2016 1:32:30 GMT
You're obviously having trouble differentiating between form and commitment. Anybody questioning Ryan Shawcross's commitment to Stoke City is a moron. If that offends you, tough shit. He doesn't give a fuck like the rest of them. If him and his mates cared then we might have had 3pts Ryan Shawcross doesn't give a fuck? Yeah, you're a moron. |
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Post by PotterLog on Dec 18, 2016 1:47:40 GMT
This is cheap I know, but fuck it  |
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Post by nsd on Dec 18, 2016 2:50:10 GMT
Utterly absurd to question Ryan's commitment. The man would run through brick walls for Stoke City and has shown that for the best part of 10 years.
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 18, 2016 3:43:04 GMT
Disappointment leading to some total mindless brainless embarrassing shit being spouted.
Against Southampton Shawcy played ace and led. An horrendous situation all of 3 days later and someone is questioning his commitment to the cause.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 18, 2016 6:19:42 GMT
i heard the quote "one of them new fans" in the ground today. I found it a completely stupendous thing to say to brand yourself superior to another supporter. So in the most polite manner, how long have you been a stoke city regular? Been a season ticket holder since I was 7 fella. So, all of 6 years then?  Things will look different once you are all grown up and have to leave the family area. Honest. |
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Post by harryburrows on Dec 18, 2016 6:21:52 GMT
Been a season ticket holder since I was 7 fella. So, all of 6 years then? Well said , I couldn't be bothered |
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Post by jeycov on Dec 18, 2016 8:21:19 GMT
On Wednesday Ryan led the team to an unlikely point when we had to play for 60 minutes. With 10 men It would have been more exciting if we had come back from a 2-0 deficit. Ryan also played very well we got a point
Tables turned yesterday it was Schmeichals turn to keep Leicester in the game both with his saves and especially at half time when Ranieri was in danger of being sent to the stands.
Ryan is less vocal as captain but does that make him a weaker leader?
If we'd kept the score at 2-1 would his captaincy be in question? Their 2nd goal was a very good header
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 18, 2016 8:27:00 GMT
The suggestion that Whelan should be captain is frankly idiotic.
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Post by samba :) on Dec 18, 2016 9:00:02 GMT
i heard the quote "one of them new fans" in the ground today. I found it a completely stupendous thing to say to brand yourself superior to another supporter. So in the most polite manner, how long have you been a stoke city regular? Been a season ticket holder since I was 7 fella. so 6 years then? |
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Post by samba :) on Dec 18, 2016 9:01:22 GMT
Been a season ticket holder since I was 7 fella. So, all of 6 years then? Things will look different once you are all grown up and have to leave the family area. Honest. oh ffs the same amount of years and everything. Sorry for copying you llp |
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Post by chiswickpotter on Dec 18, 2016 9:04:40 GMT
Such a daft thread, Ryan played before he was fit on Weds and was carrying the injury today as we had no other defenders. The idea he is not committed is nonsense, leading by example
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Post by no1972 on Dec 18, 2016 9:18:45 GMT
For anyone to say Ryan does not try is wrong and unfair,but I do not think a back three suits is style.In the first half he got caught out a couple of times.With Ryan in a three it does not work as well .But once we were two up we should of gone to a back four and put someone out on the left to cut down the space there pace men could run into.
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Post by VolvicStokie on Dec 18, 2016 9:21:17 GMT
He was poor today but the amount of times he's carried the team and got us going again is staggering.
He's been a vital part of our journey to where we are today. He's our captain and will stay being our captain
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 9:39:01 GMT
Outstanding centre half for us but he wouldn't be my captain if I was manager.
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Post by miltonstokienew on Dec 18, 2016 9:49:39 GMT
Ffs this board.
People questioning Shawsross now.
Embarrassing
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 9:53:25 GMT
This always surfaces after a defeat doesn't it. 3 days after a defensive masterclass no less.
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