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Post by crapslinger on Dec 16, 2016 20:55:59 GMT
Best value for money players that have played for us in the PL on a permanent contract. my choice would be.
Pulis:
Butland Bego Sorro Pieters Shawcross Huth Zonz G Cam A Faye Whitehead Rory Whelan Ringtone Pennant Walters Ric Beattie Tuncay Crouch
Hughes:
Arnie Allen Shaq Johnson Diouf Bojan Muniesa Bardsley Affeley
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Post by PotteringThrough on Dec 16, 2016 20:57:39 GMT
In a fight, Huth and Faye will just smash everyone royal rumble style.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2016 21:01:19 GMT
Oh good
Another veiled dig at our current manager.
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Post by lagwafis on Dec 16, 2016 21:07:53 GMT
I'd put Adam under the list of Pulis signings. Take away his winning goals at home to QPR, Norwich and Fulham and we'd have only finished above relegated Wigan on goal difference in Pulis' final season.
Pieters was a Hughes signing in the end despite a tenuous link during the previous season.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 16, 2016 21:10:56 GMT
Oh good Another veiled dig at our current manager. No Sid not a dig, both have made some superb signings for us, both have made some very poor signings, interestingly quite a number of the best signings have stood the test of time and are still key to our squad even today. |
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Post by joinerssquire on Dec 16, 2016 21:11:13 GMT
Lost credibility when I saw Dean Whitehead on the list...........
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 16, 2016 21:13:56 GMT
I'd put Adam under the list of Pulis signings. Take away his winning goals at home to QPR, Norwich and Fulham and we'd have only finished above relegated Wigan on goal difference in Pulis' final season. Pieters was a Hughes signing in the end despite a tenuous link during the previous season. Apologies missed Charlie boy  it is common knowledge that Eric was a done deal before Pulis was sacked. |
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 16, 2016 21:16:31 GMT
Lost credibility when I saw Dean Whitehead on the list........... Deano was not the most talented footballer true  however he rarely let us down, he never went hiding when we were under pressure. |
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Post by werrington on Dec 16, 2016 21:18:47 GMT
Butland wasn't a Pulis signing ....yeah he was the manager but he saw his arse over his and the Shea signing and that signalled the end
My only comment as it's going to take a familiar route
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 16, 2016 21:21:21 GMT
Both have made good signings and both have made bad ones just like all managers,end of story
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2016 21:26:40 GMT
I'd put Adam under the list of Pulis signings. Take away his winning goals at home to QPR, Norwich and Fulham and we'd have only finished above relegated Wigan on goal difference in Pulis' final season. Pieters was a Hughes signing in the end despite a tenuous link during the previous season. Who would have played in his place and what would their contribution have been? |
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Post by joinerssquire on Dec 16, 2016 21:28:40 GMT
Lost credibility when I saw Dean Whitehead on the list........... Deano was not the most talented footballer true however he rarely let us down, he never went hiding when we were under pressure. Whitehead cost double the amount that Arnie did. Not really in the same 'value for money' ballpark is it? |
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 16, 2016 21:30:19 GMT
Butland wasn't a Pulis signing ....yeah he was the manager but he saw his arse over his and the Shea signing and that signalled the end My only comment as it's going to take a familiar route Interesting who signed him then ? I take it that you do not agree with my assessment who would you add or take away from both managers. |
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 16, 2016 21:33:10 GMT
Both have made good signings and both have made bad ones just like all managers,end of story I totally agree but that is not my point on this thread that is a different matter |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2016 21:34:16 GMT
Could argue Odemwingie for Hughes, based on impact. Like Sparky's Beattie.
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Post by werrington on Dec 16, 2016 21:35:18 GMT
Butland wasn't a Pulis signing ....yeah he was the manager but he saw his arse over his and the Shea signing and that signalled the end My only comment as it's going to take a familiar route Interesting who signed him then ? I take it that you do not agree with my assessment who would you add or take away from both managers. They were Cartwright signings as that was the beginning of the new transfer team/policy He went to London to the Shea tribunal rather than stay behind in Stoke |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 16, 2016 21:38:13 GMT
Both have made good signings and both have made bad ones just like all managers,end of story I totally agree but that is not my point on this thread that is a different matter Fair enough mate and tbh I didn't read the post properly again😄I'm getting used to this😮 |
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 16, 2016 21:38:24 GMT
Could argue Odemwingie for Hughes, based on impact. Like Sparky's Beattie. Indeed seems I have forgotten wingie and we swapped him for a useless cnut. |
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Post by modfather on Dec 16, 2016 21:40:18 GMT
Lost credibility when I saw Dean Whitehead on the list........... This thread lost credibility when I saw it was started by crapslinger |
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 16, 2016 21:42:11 GMT
Interesting who signed him then ? I take it that you do not agree with my assessment who would you add or take away from both managers. They were Cartwright signings as that was the beginning of the new transfer team/policy He went to London to the Shea tribunal rather than stay behind in Stoke Shea was a Cartwright signing, no wonder Pulis went to argue his case for a work permit rather than stay in Stoke  |
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 16, 2016 21:44:25 GMT
Lost credibility when I saw Dean Whitehead on the list........... This thread lost credibility when I saw it was started by crapslinger  is this the best contribution you can come up with, have you any thoughts that might contribute to the thread ? |
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Post by lagwafis on Dec 16, 2016 22:01:03 GMT
I'd put Adam under the list of Pulis signings. Take away his winning goals at home to QPR, Norwich and Fulham and we'd have only finished above relegated Wigan on goal difference in Pulis' final season. Pieters was a Hughes signing in the end despite a tenuous link during the previous season. Who would have played in his place and what would their contribution have been? It's all hypothetical, of course, but when the list of alternatives that season include Maurice Edu, Jamie Ness and Michael Tonge... |
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 16, 2016 22:04:49 GMT
Deano was not the most talented footballer true however he rarely let us down, he never went hiding when we were under pressure. Whitehead cost double the amount that Arnie did. Not really in the same 'value for money' ballpark is it? Shaq cost 3 times more than Deano is that relevant to your counter, Imbula cost 4.5 times more the Zonz is that in the same "value for money " ball park ? that is not relevant to the point of the thread though. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2016 22:12:03 GMT
Whitehead cost double the amount that Arnie did. Not really in the same 'value for money' ballpark is it? Shaq cost 3 times more than Deano is that relevant to your counter, Imbula cost 4.5 times more the Zonz is that in the same "value for money " ball park ? that is not relevant to the point of the thread though. Yes it is relevant because you're using this thread to disguise another Mark Hughes bashing session. |
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Post by joinerssquire on Dec 16, 2016 22:15:29 GMT
Whitehead cost double the amount that Arnie did. Not really in the same 'value for money' ballpark is it? Shaq cost 3 times more than Deano is that relevant to your counter, Imbula cost 4.5 times more the Zonz is that in the same "value for money " ball park ? that is not relevant to the point of the thread though. I'm not suggesting that Shaqiri or Imbula are value for money. Nor am I suggesting that Tuncay was value for money. I'm not even saying that Allen is value for money yet as he's only played a dozen or so games. Time will tell on that signing but it looks good so far. What I am suggesting is that your definition of what value for money is, is somewhat confused. |
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 16, 2016 22:16:04 GMT
Shaq cost 3 times more than Deano is that relevant to your counter, Imbula cost 4.5 times more the Zonz is that in the same "value for money " ball park ? that is not relevant to the point of the thread though. Yes it is relevant because you're disguising this thread as another Mark Hughes bashing session. Read the thread Sid I did not start the comparisons mate, simply defending myself against other posters with undisguised agendas, unlike you to get so defensive. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2016 22:18:25 GMT
Yes it is relevant because you're disguising this thread as another Mark Hughes bashing session. Read the thread Sid I did not start the comparisons mate, simply defending myself against other posters with undisguised agendas, unlike you to get so defensive. Just a bit bored of the Pulis v Hughes type of threads now I suppose. |
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 16, 2016 22:19:23 GMT
Shaq cost 3 times more than Deano is that relevant to your counter, Imbula cost 4.5 times more the Zonz is that in the same "value for money " ball park ? that is not relevant to the point of the thread though. I'm not suggesting that Shaqiri or Imbula are value for money. Nor am I suggesting that Tuncay was value for money. I'm not even saying that Allen is value for money yet as he's only played a dozen or so games. Time will tell on that signing but it looks good so far. What I am suggesting is that your definition of what value for money is, is somewhat confused. I am not confused just comparing the transfer dealings of our manager and previous manager, you started the comparison not me sunshine. |
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Post by joinerssquire on Dec 16, 2016 22:22:52 GMT
I'm not suggesting that Shaqiri or Imbula are value for money. Nor am I suggesting that Tuncay was value for money. I'm not even saying that Allen is value for money yet as he's only played a dozen or so games. Time will tell on that signing but it looks good so far. What I am suggesting is that your definition of what value for money is, is somewhat confused. I am not confused just comparing the transfer dealings of our manager and previous manager, you started the comparison not me sunshine. You started a thread about value for money signings. I'm suggesting a number of them on both lists aren't - sunshine. |
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 16, 2016 22:26:35 GMT
Who would have played in his place and what would their contribution have been? It's all hypothetical, of course, but when the list of alternatives that season include Maurice Edu, Jamie Ness and Michael Tonge... Edu, Ness and Shea I wonder who really signed these players ? Werrington is convinced Cartwright signed Shea which would fit with how he performed maybe he also signed the other two. |
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it is common knowledge that Eric was a done deal before Pulis was sacked.
however he rarely let us down, he never went hiding when we were under pressure.
is this the best contribution you can come up with, have you any thoughts that might contribute to the thread ?
