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Post by chuffedstokie on Dec 10, 2016 19:42:17 GMT
Couple of things here. Prompted by a brief visit from Bath by my brother. Smoker most of his life but announced a couple of years ago that he was packing it in and going to ween himself off the weed using the vape technique. From what I saw it hasn't worked and he's still coughing his guts up first thing in the morning. Question, is that the main purpose of switching, (giving up) or just another delivery process for nicotine. If so, why not a patch of some sort?. Is it the need to suck on something?. I'm in no position to take any moralistic high ground having smoked myself but gave up in 1999. It was just my perception that it wasn't working as a quit tool. Another thought. I wonder if any non smoking but impressionable youngster has felt it worth a try rather than ten B&H behind the bike sheds. I told my brother that it didn't seem to be working but he's pretty hooked now on the battery powered device, and if the smell is supposed to be vanilla I prefer the whif of a Marlboro any day over that!!. |
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Post by robstokie on Dec 10, 2016 19:50:52 GMT
Couple of things here. Prompted by a brief visit from Bath by my brother. Smoker most of his life but announced a couple of years ago that he was packing it in and going to ween himself off the weed using the vape technique. From what I saw it hasn't worked and he's still coughing his guts up first thing in the morning. Question, is that the main purpose of switching, (giving up) or just another delivery process for nicotine. If so, why not a patch of some sort?. Is it the need to suck on something?. I'm in no position to take any moralistic high ground having smoked myself but gave up in 1999. It was just my perception that it wasn't working as a quit tool. Another thought. I wonder if any non smoking but impressionable youngster has felt it worth a try rather than ten B&H behind the bike sheds. I told my brother that it didn't seem to be working but he's pretty hooked now on the battery powered device, and if the smell is supposed to be vanilla I prefer the whif of a Marlboro any day over that!!. I know loads of people who have never smoked a proper cigarette in their lives (rollup or actual fag), but vape like theres no tomorrow. To be honest, I cant get my head around that (both as a smoker and someone who did try vaping but didn't get on with it) but a lot of it is down to the perception that it is apparently cool and completely safe (which it isn't - a lot of the same risks apply and you still get hooked on nicotine) |
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Post by chuffedstokie on Dec 10, 2016 20:01:08 GMT
Couple of things here. Prompted by a brief visit from Bath by my brother. Smoker most of his life but announced a couple of years ago that he was packing it in and going to ween himself off the weed using the vape technique. From what I saw it hasn't worked and he's still coughing his guts up first thing in the morning. Question, is that the main purpose of switching, (giving up) or just another delivery process for nicotine. If so, why not a patch of some sort?. Is it the need to suck on something?. I'm in no position to take any moralistic high ground having smoked myself but gave up in 1999. It was just my perception that it wasn't working as a quit tool. Another thought. I wonder if any non smoking but impressionable youngster has felt it worth a try rather than ten B&H behind the bike sheds. I told my brother that it didn't seem to be working but he's pretty hooked now on the battery powered device, and if the smell is supposed to be vanilla I prefer the whif of a Marlboro any day over that!!. I know loads of people who have never smoked a proper cigarette in their lives (rollup or actual fag), but vape like theres no tomorrow. To be honest, I cant get my head around that (both as a smoker and someone who did try vaping but didn't get on with it) but a lot of it is down to the perception that it is apparently cool and completely safe (which it isn't - a lot of the same risks apply and you still get hooked on nicotine) Thanks for that. I did wonder because I can clearly remember my first inhalation (age 14) like it was yesterday and the spluttering that went with it. But it was all a covert thing and definitely not 'cool'. It was the Zero to Vape thing that got me thinking.
Ta.
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Post by marwood on Dec 10, 2016 20:03:32 GMT
There is an e cigarette shop opened up in the village. the "vaper chase". The live in lodger and I are disgusted. The rumour was it was going to be a New Delhi.
It is stocked by a big fat man with too many tattoos and long scruffy hair . The kind of person who thinks he now looks intimidating and gothic because he watches game of thrones and has had his chin pierced, but merely reminds of the fat loser in the tangerine dream tshirt who used to hum the place out of patchouli oil in Mike lloyds in the 1980s.
The clientele is similarly unwashed and unfit. The names of the products they sell are postmodernist psychedelic, such as 'blue strawberry' and 'orange peel pigeon toe'
I tut and say unbelievable loudly every time I was like past. I'm building myself up to burning it down
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 20:29:43 GMT
Totally embarrassing habit....sucking on a sonic screwdriver
Whatever next
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 22:06:09 GMT
Followed a bloke down Blurton road the other night, me being an ex smoker. I could not believe the shit that was coming out and despite being outdoors I was mighty glad when he crossed the road, WHAT A BLOODY STINK choked me badly which in my state is not good, but how anyone who is asmatic copes with them I don't know.
Ban the things so the next generation of kids NEVER SMOKE ANYTHING.
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Post by chuffedstokie on Dec 10, 2016 22:22:36 GMT
Followed a bloke down Blurton road the other night, me being an ex smoker. I could not believe the shit that was coming out and despite being outdoors I was mighty glad when he crossed the road, WHAT A BLOODY STINK choked me badly which in my state is not good, but how anyone who is asmatic copes with them I don't know. Ban the things so the next generation of kids NEVER SMOKE ANYTHING. I've noticed a stunt pulled by drivers which involves filling the entire car with a fume cloud and then opening the window to let it all out in one go. Idiots can't see a bloody thing!!. |
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Post by harryburrows on Dec 11, 2016 10:18:21 GMT
Followed a bloke down Blurton road the other night, me being an ex smoker. I could not believe the shit that was coming out and despite being outdoors I was mighty glad when he crossed the road, WHAT A BLOODY STINK choked me badly which in my state is not good, but how anyone who is asmatic copes with them I don't know. Ban the things so the next generation of kids NEVER SMOKE ANYTHING. I've said this myself on here , I read once that smoking was responsible for a billion premature deaths in the 20 th Century . More than all the wars , road accidents put together . If tobacco was was invented today it would never be licenced . I'm a smoker too . Governments have to step in and ban it . Despite the tax revenues |
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Dec 11, 2016 10:34:08 GMT
Totally embarrassing habit....sucking on a sonic screwdriver Whatever next I always ask why they are sucking on a Daleks dick. |
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Post by blurtonboy on Dec 11, 2016 15:21:57 GMT
Totally embarrassing habit....sucking on a sonic screwdriver Whatever next I always ask why they are sucking on a Daleks dick. Perhaps they are trying to Exterminate their habit  |
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Post by salopstick on Dec 11, 2016 16:03:15 GMT
I've been off fags nearly 4 years with my vape device.
Cheaper
healthier (debatable but cannot be worse than cigarettes)
Doesn't smell
No passive risks
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Post by scfcmacca on Dec 11, 2016 20:01:40 GMT
I switched over to the e-cig in October 2015 and recently packed it in roughly September so almost a full year on it, I found it stopped me from actually smoking, but towards the end it was becoming harsh on my throat. After that I still feel like a real smoke but refrain my self from buying them.
So all in all I don't think they are a 'quitting' tool rather a different way to get the nicotine you crave in a familiar.
The e cig also saves a lot of money after the initial purchase
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2016 20:23:42 GMT
As a current smoker (tried to pack in a few times) all failed obviously. I've always said I'd go cold turkey before vapour.
Tried vapour before and failed as it did not bring the same satisfaction. Weak on my behalf I know but that's part of the reason why I failed.
I know people who haven't smoked in years yet are still on the vapour, obviously it must not work.
I would still like to quit but must be my addictive personality holding me back. If I were to quit it would need to be cold turkey. Problem is I like a pint or two at the weekend, naturally for myself a pint and cigarette goes hand in hand. That's always my down fall.
If you really want to quit you will. It just needs will power and determination, something I must lack until I adopt a much more healthier lifestyle such as gym etc
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Post by Gods on Dec 11, 2016 20:49:19 GMT
I think a smoking addiction exists on 2 levels.
A chemical one, your body needs/expects nicotine. But there is also a physical one, the need to do something with your hands in it's place hence there is something in the OP's 'need to suck on something' theory.
That's my amateur analysis anyway!
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Dec 11, 2016 21:00:36 GMT
I dunna get 'em mesen. I started smoking way back when I was 11 years old, was a 20-a-day 'man' by time I was 12/13. Jacked it in when I was about 26(ish) & anna looked back since. (Found quitting a piece of piss too, but that's another story) Nowadays when I bump into my cousin I see her 'smoking' one of these new fangled things. She was someone who perhaps had 5 or 6 fags a day, now she's got this thing in her hand/gob 24/7 toking away 'cos it's 'safer than fags'. She, like anyone else using them are basically a guinea pig & we'll find out in 20/30/40 years time just how much 'safer' they are.
If you want to smoke then just smoke, if you want to jack it in then quit. This half way house shit I dunna get.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Dec 11, 2016 21:19:29 GMT
Coltsfoot fags are brill.
Tussilago farfara.
Has an inherent nicotine urge suppressant.
Used to be able to buy them from chemists or on prescription for lung illnesses.
Roll me own.
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Post by thevoid on Dec 11, 2016 21:24:36 GMT
I enjoy mine, they're just a mini version of a Shisha pipe.
I smoke mine regularly, especially at work whereas I only want a regular fag if I'm on the beer and my e-cig is empty.
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Post by chuffedstokie on Dec 11, 2016 21:26:33 GMT
I dunna get 'em mesen. I started smoking way back when I was 11 years old, was a 20-a-day 'man' by time I was 12/13. Jacked it in when I was about 26(ish) & anna looked back since. (Found quitting a piece of piss too, but that's another story) Nowadays when I bump into my cousin I see her 'smoking' one of these new fangled things. She was someone who perhaps had 5 or 6 fags a day, now she's got this thing in her hand/gob 24/7 toking away 'cos it's 'safer than fags'. She, like anyone else using them are basically a guinea pig & we'll find out in 20/30/40 years time just how much 'safer' they are. If you want to smoke then just smoke, if you want to jack it in then quit. This half way house shit I dunna get. Did a similar thing re quitting. Picked a date, new years eve seemed good enough and just stopped. One week turned into two etc then never looked back. Horses for courses. |
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Post by mattador78 on Dec 11, 2016 21:39:55 GMT
I've been off fags nearly 4 years with my vape device. Cheaper healthier (debatable but cannot be worse than cigarettes) Doesn't smell No passive risks There is if someone blows that alleged toffee apple smelling vapour in my face 1 from me throwing up 2 from me kicking em in the balls so hard the next time they exhale it their testes come out their nostrils like some errant bogey 😠😉 |
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Post by salopstick on Dec 12, 2016 7:00:12 GMT
I think a smoking addiction exists on 2 levels. A chemical one, your body needs/expects nicotine. But there is also a physical one, the need to do something with your hands in it's place hence there is something in the OP's 'need to suck on something' theory. That's my amateur analysis anyway! And that's why it worked for me where patches, zyban and all the others ultimately failed. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 12, 2016 12:34:22 GMT
Couple of things here. Prompted by a brief visit from Bath by my brother. Smoker most of his life but announced a couple of years ago that he was packing it in and going to ween himself off the weed using the vape technique. From what I saw it hasn't worked and he's still coughing his guts up first thing in the morning. Question, is that the main purpose of switching, (giving up) or just another delivery process for nicotine. If so, why not a patch of some sort?. Is it the need to suck on something?. I'm in no position to take any moralistic high ground having smoked myself but gave up in 1999. It was just my perception that it wasn't working as a quit tool. Another thought. I wonder if any non smoking but impressionable youngster has felt it worth a try rather than ten B&H behind the bike sheds. I told my brother that it didn't seem to be working but he's pretty hooked now on the battery powered device, and if the smell is supposed to be vanilla I prefer the whif of a Marlboro any day over that!!. I smoked for 25 years, then vaped for 12 months before stopping completely 5 years ago. I know that Lakeland Potter did something similar as well. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21406540"Nicotine itself is not a particularly hazardous drug," says Professor John Britton, who leads the tobacco advisory group for the Royal College of Physicians. "It's something on a par with the effects you get from caffeine. "If all the smokers in Britain stopped smoking cigarettes and started smoking e-cigarettes we would save 5 million deaths in people who are alive today. It's a massive potential public health prize." |
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Post by elystokie on Dec 12, 2016 12:56:54 GMT
I think a smoking addiction exists on 2 levels. A chemical one, your body needs/expects nicotine. But there is also a physical one, the need to do something with your hands in it's place hence there is something in the OP's 'need to suck on something' theory. That's my amateur analysis anyway! And that's why it worked for me where patches, zyban and all the others ultimately failed. I've been using these since the end of April this year, working so far, had a go of the big shisha pipe things on holiday in June, but other than that it's been just these, working so far, fingers crossed. I use about a cartrdidge per week now, works out at 75p a go if I buy the big(ger) boxes from Tesco at 15 quid a box. |
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Post by harryburrows on Dec 12, 2016 17:53:47 GMT
I think a smoking addiction exists on 2 levels. A chemical one, your body needs/expects nicotine. But there is also a physical one, the need to do something with your hands in it's place hence there is something in the OP's 'need to suck on something' theory. That's my amateur analysis anyway! Are you looking for " company " good sir ? |
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Post by Bowyer83 on Dec 13, 2016 2:13:04 GMT
I've been off fags nearly 4 years with my vape device. Cheaper healthier (debatable but cannot be worse than cigarettes) Doesn't smell No passive risks I gave up smoking 6 years ago had a drag on the next door neighbours ecig mod 3 years after and now I'm addicted to vaping. Obviously I wish I'd never smoked at all but I do enjoy vaping to the point now where I make my own liquids. As you have said compared to smoking tobacco products the positives out weigh the negatives. I'm sure in the future health organisations will find additional problems with vaping but it's the same with virtually anything. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2016 3:49:39 GMT
Followed a bloke down Blurton road the other night, me being an ex smoker. I could not believe the shit that was coming out and despite being outdoors I was mighty glad when he crossed the road, WHAT A BLOODY STINK choked me badly which in my state is not good, but how anyone who is asmatic copes with them I don't know. Ban the things so the next generation of kids NEVER SMOKE ANYTHING. I've noticed a stunt pulled by drivers which involves filling the entire car with a fume cloud and then opening the window to let it all out in one go. Idiots can't see a bloody thing!!. Hot boxing. Most likely NOT tobacco. |
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Post by chuffedstokie on Dec 13, 2016 7:19:56 GMT
I've noticed a stunt pulled by drivers which involves filling the entire car with a fume cloud and then opening the window to let it all out in one go. Idiots can't see a bloody thing!!. Hot boxing. Most likely NOT tobacco. That's got to sting!! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2016 8:16:06 GMT
I've been off fags nearly 4 years with my vape device. Cheaper healthier (debatable but cannot be worse than cigarettes) Doesn't smell No passive risks [br Slave  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2016 21:58:43 GMT
If the title was a picture...  |
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Post by chuffedstokie on Dec 14, 2016 23:00:24 GMT
If the title was a picture... Electronic something!!.😅 |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Dec 14, 2016 23:24:21 GMT
i dread to think what your search history looks like to have found that pic mate  somewhere Metal Mickey is knocking one out over that! |
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