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Post by Scrotnig on Dec 3, 2016 19:55:15 GMT
He did mate, but he admitted his fuck up, so he gets a pass... Till next time Nah mate she's a weasel. Been yammering all week. I've not seen any apology... Just seen him having is arse shown time over by Hughes and the team. I'm not arsed though, it's good entertainment. Do you think I'm somehow upset by this? I'm a Stoke fan, therefore if we start winning games I'm very happy. I don't care if that means my own predictions turned out to be wrong. Some on here do seem to revel in us losing. I don't. I want us to win.
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Post by songthrush01 on Dec 3, 2016 19:59:36 GMT
dont get to excited boys and girls,thats as good its going to get.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Dec 3, 2016 20:33:18 GMT
Nah mate she's a weasel. Been yammering all week. I've not seen any apology... Just seen him having is arse shown time over by Hughes and the team. I'm not arsed though, it's good entertainment. Do you think I'm somehow upset by this? I'm a Stoke fan, therefore if we start winning games I'm very happy. I don't care if that means my own predictions turned out to be wrong. Some on here do seem to revel in us losing. I don't. I want us to win. Yes I do think you're upset that your 'expert' predictions havn't come to fruition. But crack on with your attention seeking shite Scrote.
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Post by Scrotnig on Dec 3, 2016 20:42:24 GMT
Do you think I'm somehow upset by this? I'm a Stoke fan, therefore if we start winning games I'm very happy. I don't care if that means my own predictions turned out to be wrong. Some on here do seem to revel in us losing. I don't. I want us to win. Yes I do think you're upset that your 'expert' predictions havn't come to fruition. But crack on with your attention seeking shite Scrote. I can only state that you're wrong. I do not want us to lose, I do not want Hughes to leave. After the Palace game I could see no way out of the hole. I was far from alone in that.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Dec 3, 2016 20:46:37 GMT
Yes I do think you're upset that your 'expert' predictions havn't come to fruition. But crack on with your attention seeking shite Scrote. I can only state that you're wrong. I do not want us to lose, I do not want Hughes to leave. After the Palace game I could see no way out of the hole. I was far from alone in that. Not sure why you keep bringing up the Palace game as your defence when you were spouting your negatve bile last week.
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Post by Scrotnig on Dec 3, 2016 20:49:45 GMT
I can only state that you're wrong. I do not want us to lose, I do not want Hughes to leave. After the Palace game I could see no way out of the hole. I was far from alone in that. Not sure why you keep bringing up the Palace game as your defence when you were spouting your negatve bile last week. Look, there are still problems. None of that has gone away. Each win brings us closer to survival but we still have issues to sort. However, today is not a day for such thoughts. Today is a day to look at the good. The Palace game is specifically the point where I suggested it was time to change the manager. That's why I bring it up here. I didn't do that at any other point.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Dec 3, 2016 20:57:05 GMT
Not sure why you keep bringing up the Palace game as your defence when you were spouting your negatve bile last week. Look, there are still problems. None of that has gone away. Each win brings us closer to survival but we still have issues to sort. However, today is not a day for such thoughts. Today is a day to look at the good. The Palace game is specifically the point where I suggested it was time to change the manager. That's why I bring it up here. I didn't do that at any other point. Bore off with your ridiculous expectations.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 3, 2016 20:57:19 GMT
Why feel the need to publicly apologise for your views? when we're shit, I'll say we're shit. When we're good, I'll say we're good. Today, we were bang average but scored two excellent goals due to our team having superior quality to their team. Just try ditching the drama queen persona..
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Post by Scrotnig on Dec 3, 2016 21:14:30 GMT
Why feel the need to publicly apologise for your views? when we're shit, I'll say we're shit. When we're good, I'll say we're good. Today, we were bang average but scored two excellent goals due to our team having superior quality to their team. Just try ditching the drama queen persona.. I only did it because someone suggested I ought to....I can't win really. (A bit like us at the start of the season. NO! DON'T GO THERE!)
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 3, 2016 21:19:12 GMT
Why feel the need to publicly apologise for your views? when we're shit, I'll say we're shit. When we're good, I'll say we're good. Today, we were bang average but scored two excellent goals due to our team having superior quality to their team. Just try ditching the drama queen persona.. I only did it because someone suggested I ought to....I can't win really. (A bit like us at the start of the season. NO! DON'T GO THERE!) Doesn't take much to get you to crack then?
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Post by Davef on Dec 3, 2016 22:02:10 GMT
We can all piss and whine when results go against us. It takes a man to show loyalty and patience to someone who hasn't let us down yet.
This is just attention seeking arse gravy.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Dec 3, 2016 23:52:28 GMT
We need to start seasons better though, whether you predict doom, apologise later or whatever. What's your idea of better Onlooker? Beating Man City and Spurs? yes I know, but I don't think the early results were particularly attributable to bad management nor undercookedness mesen. I think they really tried from the off this rime around.
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Post by jarhead on Dec 4, 2016 0:03:39 GMT
Respect.
Remember show and have Faith in Mark Hughes.
3 top ten finishes in this league is superb.
I think he knows what he is doing and shown he can sort out difficult 'we think' situations out in a calm and controlled way.
Well done Mark
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Post by alster on Dec 4, 2016 9:18:27 GMT
Why feel the need to publicly apologise for your views? when we're shit, I'll say we're shit. When we're good, I'll say we're good. Today, we were bang average but scored two excellent goals due to our team having superior quality to their team. Just try ditching the drama queen persona.. Glad for a bit of reality, its great to have the points on the board but performance wise we're still some way below our potential. Subs were very negative and we spent almost an hour trying to stifle a game we had no need to.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Dec 4, 2016 9:27:51 GMT
Instead of starting attention seeking threads why not do what most Stoke fans do when things arent going our way.
Get behind the team and show some Loyalty.
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Post by Mr Chairman on Dec 4, 2016 15:19:34 GMT
Sorry for the length: 2 Questions: Is Mark Hughes a quality manager, and is he right for Stoke FC now? Yes and Yes. 1) Quality?: Mark Hughes has never finished outside the top half for any full season in charge. That is pretty amazing given the teams he has managed included Fulham, Blackburn, Stoke City. And while win % is perhaps a more valuable stat, MH is number 8 on the all-time premier league manager win list. He has joined a handful of truly great managers and is approaching his 500th match in charge. ( link) . www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/534440/manager-win-rates-Premier-League-history-sportgalleriesHe is not afraid to change line-ups, rewards strong play, somehow keeps players happy who are on the bench – only N-Zonzi truly left for ‘bigger things’. 2) Right for Stoke now?: Top 10 three seasons in a row (9th each time) – standing 9th in his 4th. I believe stoke can compete for top 6, but I also believe we should be be thrilled - downright giddy - to compete for 7 – 12 every season. Progress would put us better than the last three seasons, but 9 in a league that gets more difficult each year is excellent for any club not spending over $300 million in the transfer market over the past 5 seasons. ( link) . www.transferleague.co.uk/premier-league-last-five-seasons/transfer-league-tables/premier-league-table-last-five-seasonsAlmost every signing we have made has pointed to LMH as one of the key reasons for their decision to join Stoke. He has been there, done that, has a vision, and is deeply respected by the players. Last match squad: Grant, Johnson, Indi, Muni, Pieters, Adam Imbula, Diouf, Shaq, Arni, Walters. The starting 11 - ex. Adam and Walters - are LMH signings. This is firmly his team, employing his tactics. Hughes is now the second longest serving premier league manager behind Wenger (third if you include Howe, but not consecutively in the PL.) Consistency is valuable, as long as it doesn’t become complacency. I see no evidence of that. We have had some wonderful moments under Hughes, not least of which was 6 - 1 over Liverpool. We now expect to win each week, and expect to get points away against the top 6. Many of LMH’s critics will point to his time at QPR. While clearly that was an unmitigated disaster and a heavy dose of responsibility lies at the feet of Mr. Hughes, it is evident that the QPR organization and their Chairman are deeply flawed and mightily contributed to poor signings. Also, it is just possible that Stoke has benefitted from lessons learned. There will be a time for Hughes to move on, but threads titled “Hughes Out” seem to be poorly considered. I believe it has never been a better time to be a Stoke City fan. Long may it continue with LMH steering the ship.
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Post by fca47 on Dec 4, 2016 15:24:00 GMT
If I apologised every time I got things wrong I would spend the whole day doing it. There is a reason why we are just a opinionated bunch of wankers on here and football managers get paid millions. But it ain't going to stop me .
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Post by salopstick on Dec 4, 2016 15:26:07 GMT
This needs resurrecting next September when we get 1 point out of the first 9
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2016 16:58:13 GMT
We need to start seasons better though, whether you predict doom, apologise later or whatever. What's your idea of better Onlooker? Beating Man City and Spurs? yes I know, but I don't think the early results were particularly attributable to bad management nor undercookedness mesen. I think they really tried from the off this rime around. My idea of better is the odd win or two in 6. Outside of results, just attack the season from the off. We disagree on the one point. That is I really think we are undercooked to some degree and to some degree the coaching staff admit that the training is with a view to making the side improve their fitness and sharpness over the course of the season. Man City and Spurs are tough games and certainly no gimme's. However, the manager has raised expectations these days and admits himself by his actions that there are certainly no bonus games under this regime. That comes with a price.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Dec 4, 2016 17:46:27 GMT
What's your idea of better Onlooker? Beating Man City and Spurs? yes I know, but I don't think the early results were particularly attributable to bad management nor undercookedness mesen. I think they really tried from the off this rime around. My idea of better is the odd win or two in 6. Outside of results, just attack the season from the off. We disagree on the one point. That is I really think we are undercooked to some degree and to some degree the coaching staff admit that the training is with a view to making the side improve their fitness and sharpness over the course of the season. Man City and Spurs are tough games and certainly no gimme's. However, the manager has raised expectations these days and admits himself by his actions that there are certainly no bonus games under this regime. That comes with a price. Agree with that to an extent, especially regarding previous seasons. It is a matter of balance. There's a period of gelling for all teams at the start of a season, fitting in new recruits etc. It seemed accentuated for us, and is something that irked me. I just felt this season we started appreciably better than those 'usual' tame starts. I know the results don't back me up, but I don't think they came down to lack of preparation nor effort. Maybe the Euros were a factor. I did see an interesting iv on the official site with Rodan, talking about reviewing the processes etc. It did seem like there were changes to the pre-season. Perhaps a slight switch of focus from football to fitness? {Austria etc}. I've said before, it's the Everton and WBA results that still rankle a bit. For me I think those drubbings came because we were too gung ho if owt.
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Post by Kjones9 on Dec 4, 2016 18:36:50 GMT
Look.
At.
Me.
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