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Post by crapslinger on Nov 22, 2016 20:16:17 GMT
And when we had Ringtone and Pennant as our first choice wingers we did not see Cresswell or Rory on the wing either, though we did moan our balls off when Pulis played SJW there, and four seasons later we are still seeing Walters on the wing is that acceptable ? We did for one season - then instead of Pennant we had Shotton/Kightly/Walters etc. I'd rather not see Walters out wing and have a direct alternative to him, but it isn't true to say 'now we have Walters' in comparison to Cresswell/Della because Walters isn't first choice. We have only had Arnie and Shaq for one full season ! when Shaq is injured which is fairly often who does Hughes turn to ?, four seasons into Hughes rein and we still endure SJW or the likes of Diouf as regular replacemt wingers is that acceptable ? |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 22, 2016 20:20:19 GMT
Pulis did marvellously but the idea Hughes walked into a strong, secure club and had it easy is a complete fallacy. TP didn't always have pace on the wings. Lack of pace was actually one of the biggest problems throughout TP's era, especially when he decided Fuller wasn't fit for purpose and Pennant started acting up. The solid club and team were quotes from MH,who said you very rarely get a job were everything is in place,Pennant played up for MH if my memory is right was it not the penalty he gave away against Everton finish him,and if you went the open night with Fuller in the Waddo suite he told everyone he was gone,and he dropped down a league and could not do it.I if you remember when Pullis signed him he got loads of bollocks for signing a croc ,how much football fans know leave it to the pros who work with the players everyday. Hughes, again, inherited a team dispirited, divided, unable to score and with three wins in five months. Again, if it was so easy, why did Pulis not ever manage to finish top half? The point with Pennant is that he wasn't replaced and the pace in the side suffered further. Ric wasn't the same player pre-injury but Pulis actually first started to sideline him before that, and he still had something to offer even after he came back with his trickery - why Pulis played him out wide in that final season is inexplicable. Even then, the point was that the pace was phased out and not replaced and that was when the problems really set in. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 22, 2016 20:21:08 GMT
We did for one season - then instead of Pennant we had Shotton/Kightly/Walters etc. I'd rather not see Walters out wing and have a direct alternative to him, but it isn't true to say 'now we have Walters' in comparison to Cresswell/Della because Walters isn't first choice. We have only had Arnie and Shaq for one full season ! when Shaq is injured which is fairly often who does Hughes turn to ?, four seasons into Hughes rein and we still endure SJW or the likes of Diouf as regular replacemt wingers is that acceptable ? Yes, when he's injured. Thus NOT FIRST CHOICE. |
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 22, 2016 20:24:17 GMT
We have only had Arnie and Shaq for one full season ! when Shaq is injured which is fairly often who does Hughes turn to ?, four seasons into Hughes rein and we still endure SJW or the likes of Diouf as regular replacemt wingers is that acceptable ? Yes, when he's injured. Thus NOT FIRST CHOICE. FIRST CHOICE SECOND CHOICE is it acceptable after three years ? |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 22, 2016 20:26:52 GMT
Yes, when he's injured. Thus NOT FIRST CHOICE. FIRST CHOICE SECOND CHOICE is it acceptable after three years ? It's not ideal and I'd much rather have a proper alternative winger. But you were comparing apples with oranges to try and make things sound worse than they really are. For a change. |
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Post by dutchstokie on Nov 22, 2016 20:36:02 GMT
I thought this thread was about the baggies v burnley ?
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 22, 2016 20:43:34 GMT
FIRST CHOICE SECOND CHOICE is it acceptable after three years ? It's not ideal and I'd much rather have a proper alternative winger. But you were comparing apples with oranges to try and make things sound worse than they really are. For a change. NOT IDEAL  we have a proper alternative winger we payed millions for in the summer yet Hughes still chooses SJW over him, how about he plays the proper alternative winger he bought for a change. |
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 22, 2016 20:50:11 GMT
I thought this thread was about the baggies v burnley ? Cracking game totally un Pulis like display from the Baggies, looks like he has signed a few decent players who know their jobs, well organised but with pace and suprisingly easy on the eye, saying that Burnley looked out of their depth in this game, let's hope we can put them to the sword in the near future. |
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Post by no1972 on Nov 22, 2016 20:51:33 GMT
The solid club and team were quotes from MH,who said you very rarely get a job were everything is in place,Pennant played up for MH if my memory is right was it not the penalty he gave away against Everton finish him,and if you went the open night with Fuller in the Waddo suite he told everyone he was gone,and he dropped down a league and could not do it.I if you remember when Pullis signed him he got loads of bollocks for signing a croc ,how much football fans know leave it to the pros who work with the players everyday. Hughes, again, inherited a team dispirited, divided, unable to score and with three wins in five months. Again, if it was so easy, why did Pulis not ever manage to finish top half? The point with Pennant is that he wasn't replaced and the pace in the side suffered further. Ric wasn't the same player pre-injury but Pulis actually first started to sideline him before that, and he still had something to offer even after he came back with his trickery - why Pulis played him out wide in that final season is inexplicable. Even then, the point was that the pace was phased out and not replaced and that was when the problems really set in. It's obvious you rate MH very highly and think TP was not as good a manager,my point was the performances this season are as bad as TP were in the end.We cannot look back if we did we could say the 2011 team his the best we have had.The present manager seems to lack any tactical awareness,if the going good he ok but against Bournemouth we were clueless,I hope on Sunday we go in with a plan and see a pattern of play,if we really belived in our team we would be selling out at places like Watford,I don't know how many we have sold but no more than a thousand I would say. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 22, 2016 20:52:35 GMT
It's not ideal and I'd much rather have a proper alternative winger. But you were comparing apples with oranges to try and make things sound worse than they really are. For a change. NOT IDEAL we have a proper alternative winger we payed millions for in the summer yet Hughes still chooses SJW over him, how about he plays the proper alternative winger he bought for a change. Like he did at West Ham? Or when he brought him on ahead of him against Swansea? |
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 22, 2016 21:02:24 GMT
NOT IDEAL we have a proper alternative winger we payed millions for in the summer yet Hughes still chooses SJW over him, how about he plays the proper alternative winger he bought for a change. Like he did at West Ham? Or when he brought him on ahead of him against Swansea?  you are getting there, a proper winger on the wing, how many times has he chosen SJW or Diouf over Sohbi ? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 21:06:18 GMT
Oh no! Crapslinger and Chief are caught in an infinite question and answer loop. This could get lengthy.
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Post by Admin on Nov 22, 2016 21:17:53 GMT
I thought this thread was about the baggies v burnley ? Yes, a game which ended 24 hours ago! |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 22, 2016 21:31:24 GMT
I thought this thread was about the baggies v burnley ? Yes, a game which ended 24 hours ago! No, this game has been going on for years. Unfortunately. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 22, 2016 21:49:19 GMT
Like he did at West Ham? Or when he brought him on ahead of him against Swansea? you are getting there, a proper winger on the wing, how many times has he chosen SJW or Diouf over Sohbi ? Walters twice, Diouf once, the last time being September. Truly the end of days. |
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 22, 2016 22:08:15 GMT
you are getting there, a proper winger on the wing, how many times has he chosen SJW or Diouf over Sohbi ? Walters twice, Diouf once, the last time being September. Truly the end of days. And there ends the lesson for today.  |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 22, 2016 22:11:19 GMT
Walters twice, Diouf once, the last time being September. Truly the end of days. And there ends the lesson for today. Yeah, rather what I was thinking as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 22:13:44 GMT
FCF picks camp bed up and leaves.
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we have a proper alternative winger we payed millions for in the summer yet Hughes still chooses SJW over him, how about he plays the proper alternative winger he bought for a change.
you are getting there, a proper winger on the wing, how many times has he chosen SJW or Diouf over Sohbi ?
