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Post by backintheday on Nov 1, 2016 9:40:31 GMT
FIFA have banned the poppy emblems on both the England and Scotland sorts to be worn for the match on the 11th November, which you all know is Armistice day. Apparently it is a 'political' statement!! Who are these people and what planet do they live on  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 1, 2016 9:42:04 GMT
It is.
And it is bollocks but they have rules and have to abide by them.
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Post by backintheday on Nov 1, 2016 9:47:38 GMT
So an emblem of mass rememberence is now a political statement?
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Post by murphthesurf on Nov 1, 2016 9:51:33 GMT
FIFA have banned the poppy emblems on both the England and Scotland sorts to be worn for the match on the 11th November, which you all know is Armistice day. Apparently it is a 'political' statement!! Who are these people and what planet do they live on Whatever next???????  Anyway, I think teams might be getting round not being able to have the usual poppy emblem on shirts this year by players instead wearing a black armband with a poppy emblem on it……. it was on the BBC news this morning. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 9:52:31 GMT
That is just wank on every level...Shame on whichever jobsworth decided this...
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Post by Davef on Nov 1, 2016 10:05:34 GMT
FIFA should remember that our soldiers made the ultimate sacrifice so they had the freedom to throw their bungs around.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 10:10:20 GMT
Stick them on the shirts, take the fine and tell FIFA to jog on.....
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Post by mattador78 on Nov 1, 2016 10:12:17 GMT
Stick them on the shirts, take the fine and tell FIFA to jog on..... Exactly |
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Post by kidsgroveboxxy on Nov 1, 2016 10:13:14 GMT
This is fucking disgusting! It was only a year ago that The Wembley Arch was adorned in red white and blue in respect to the Paris attacks. Isn't that political? I know that what happened in Paris was a travesty, but still, wasn't the atrocities of both world wars even worse? FIFA can fuck right off
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Post by skip on Nov 1, 2016 10:27:12 GMT
You know Henning Wehn, the German stand-up comedian, he was on Room 101 the other week. He wanted to put November in Room 101, cue confused jocular guffaws from the crowd. He referred to Remembrance Sunday as 'Selective Memory Sunday' which I thought was piss funny.
If you ever see him live, he also does a wicked routine about applauding what you don't understand and the birth of the Hitler Youth but that's something to look up on YouTube.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Nov 1, 2016 10:45:02 GMT
Whether they should ban them or not I'm not sure but they do have a point about the political thing. Some of the abuse directed at James McClean, or others who don't wear them says a lot.
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Post by murphthesurf on Nov 1, 2016 10:46:47 GMT
Stick them on the shirts, take the fine and tell FIFA to jog on..... Exactly Yep. |
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Post by backintheday on Nov 1, 2016 10:53:14 GMT
Stick them on the shirts, take the fine and tell FIFA to jog on..... Exactly This  |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Nov 1, 2016 10:55:46 GMT
Fuck all those British soldiers who fought and lost their lives for their country and freedom....who gives a fuck about them anyhow, so long as we don't offend anyone!!!
Well done FIFA....
...you complete and utter cunts!!!
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Post by block23 on Nov 1, 2016 11:38:45 GMT
Whether they should ban them or not I'm not sure but they do have a point about the political thing. Some of the abuse directed at James McClean, or others who don't wear them says a lot. The McLean situation is different. He is the one making it political. I have no issue with him not wearing a poppy, his choice. I have an issue with the justifications he has made for it, plying his trade at an English football club who have decided that they want their players to wear the poppy for all that it stands for, (not what he says it stands for). All other nationalities wear it for the game chosen. WBA should in my opinion drop him for that game, and a I know many WBA fans who are in full agreement with this view, and consider him an embarrassment to their club. If, and I hope this never happens, he signed for Stoke, I would not go again until he left, my choice, and I know many others who would do the same. |
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Nov 1, 2016 13:59:56 GMT
Whether they should ban them or not I'm not sure but they do have a point about the political thing. Some of the abuse directed at James McClean, or others who don't wear them says a lot. The McLean situation is different. He is the one making it political. I have no issue with him not wearing a poppy, his choice. I have an issue with the justifications he has made for it, plying his trade at an English football club who have decided that they want their players to wear the poppy for all that it stands for, (not what he says it stands for). All other nationalities wear it for the game chosen. WBA should in my opinion drop him for that game, and a I know many WBA fans who are in full agreement with this view, and consider him an embarrassment to their club. If, and I hope this never happens, he signed for Stoke, I would not go again until he left, my choice, and I know many others who would do the same. Mcclean has the freedom to not wear a poppy if he chooses. I'm from mainland britain with no irish ancestry and I fully understand and support his decision. If he signed for stoke i'd support him, because he would be a stoke player. |
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Post by hooftastic on Nov 1, 2016 14:12:19 GMT
odd how they don't enforce this when the Argentinian team come out with their 'Las Malvinas' nonsense
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Post by sonichuth on Nov 1, 2016 14:19:08 GMT
Whether they should ban them or not I'm not sure but they do have a point about the political thing. Some of the abuse directed at James McClean, or others who don't wear them says a lot. The McLean situation is different. He is the one making it political. I have no issue with him not wearing a poppy, his choice. I have an issue with the justifications he has made for it, plying his trade at an English football club who have decided that they want their players to wear the poppy for all that it stands for, (not what he says it stands for). All other nationalities wear it for the game chosen. WBA should in my opinion drop him for that game, and a I know many WBA fans who are in full agreement with this view, and consider him an embarrassment to their club. If, and I hope this never happens, he signed for Stoke, I would not go again until he left, my choice, and I know many others who would do the same. Wow. In one breath you say you have no issue with him not wearing a poppy and then say he should be dropped for not wearing one. Mclean said: "People say that by not wearing a poppy, I’m being disrespectful but they don’t ask why it is that I choose not to wear it. If the poppy was simply about World War One and Two victims alone, I would wear it without a problem. I’d wear it every day of the year if that was the thing, but it doesn’t, it stands for all the conflicts that Britain has been involved in. “Because of the history of where I come from in Derry, I cannot wear something that represents that. I have no issue with people that do wear the poppy. I absolutely respect their right to do that but I would hope that people respect my right to have a different opinion on it too." Now, if you agree or disagree with him, the lad has clearly thought about what it means rather than just wearing one without thought. I'd welcome McLean at Stoke (maybe not as a player cos Arnie's better) and would support him in his decision, as I would all Stoke players who did wear the poppy. thesetpieces.com/features/pieces-of-hate-poppy-fascists/ |
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Post by ElworthPotter on Nov 1, 2016 14:25:15 GMT
Every year people bring up James Mclean. As a couple of posters above have said Mclean is absolutely 100% within his rights to choose not to wear one. To say he should be dropped for the game is laughable. The quote sonichuth has dug out explains perfectly why he doesn't wear one and he shouldn't need to justify himself every November.
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Post by hooftastic on Nov 1, 2016 14:34:54 GMT
By making it a symbol of more modern and much less noble conflicts (and sharing the donations with veterans of Northern Ireland, Iraq and Afghan) the RBL have made it a political statement.
FIFA' ruling is a genuine one, nowadays at least, but the hypocrisy stinks.
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Post by block23 on Nov 1, 2016 15:43:40 GMT
The McLean situation is different. He is the one making it political. I have no issue with him not wearing a poppy, his choice. I have an issue with the justifications he has made for it, plying his trade at an English football club who have decided that they want their players to wear the poppy for all that it stands for, (not what he says it stands for). All other nationalities wear it for the game chosen. WBA should in my opinion drop him for that game, and a I know many WBA fans who are in full agreement with this view, and consider him an embarrassment to their club. If, and I hope this never happens, he signed for Stoke, I would not go again until he left, my choice, and I know many others who would do the same. Wow. In one breath you say you have no issue with him not wearing a poppy and then say he should be dropped for not wearing one. Mclean said: "People say that by not wearing a poppy, I’m being disrespectful but they don’t ask why it is that I choose not to wear it. If the poppy was simply about World War One and Two victims alone, I would wear it without a problem. I’d wear it every day of the year if that was the thing, but it doesn’t, it stands for all the conflicts that Britain has been involved in. “Because of the history of where I come from in Derry, I cannot wear something that represents that. I have no issue with people that do wear the poppy. I absolutely respect their right to do that but I would hope that people respect my right to have a different opinion on it too." Now, if you agree or disagree with him, the lad has clearly thought about what it means rather than just wearing one without thought. I'd welcome McLean at Stoke (maybe not as a player cos Arnie's better) and would support him in his decision, as I would all Stoke players who did wear the poppy. thesetpieces.com/features/pieces-of-hate-poppy-fascists/You missed my point, probably my fault - I have no issue with him not wearing a poppy at any other time, but I do when it is a collective thing supported by his club, in this country. You quote what he said last year, (his view but not the rationale given by the RBL or any other connected body) there are other things he has said previously, can't be arsed digging them out, which had a different slant. Hope that explains my position better. |
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Post by salopstick on Nov 1, 2016 15:50:10 GMT
FIFA have banned the poppy emblems on both the England and Scotland sorts to be worn for the match on the 11th November, which you all know is Armistice day. Apparently it is a 'political' statement!! Who are these people and what planet do they live on James Maclean likes this. |
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Post by norman conquest on Nov 1, 2016 16:19:55 GMT
Wear the poppy, tell them where to stick their fine and carry on regardless.
Trust me if i was in charge the RAF would be flying over lily livered Switzerland and bombing fifa off the face of the fucking earth.
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Post by sharonbeech21 on Nov 1, 2016 16:37:06 GMT
For FiFA to do this on remembrance weekend is absolutely digusting and they should be ashamed of themselves for doing this.They certainly have no pride in what the soldiers stood for or for those who lost their lives. These brave men deserve to be remembered.
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Post by sharonbeech21 on Nov 1, 2016 16:41:20 GMT
I would have liked to have been able to buy a shirt with a poppy on it so i could wear it all through the month of November
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Post by mattador78 on Nov 1, 2016 16:45:12 GMT
In this respect then is a minutes silence on remeberence day ,or before the england france friendly after the paris terror attacks a polutical statement?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 1, 2016 16:45:35 GMT
The problem about simply wearing the poppy and taking the "rap" is that we don't yet know what the "rap" would be. If it is a fine then we should wear the poppy and pay the fine. If it is a point deduction - how would people feel about taking the risk of not qualifying for the World Cup? I heard on the radio today that the FA (and the Scottish FA) were trying to find what the penalty would actually be.
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Post by bloody56 on Nov 1, 2016 17:40:36 GMT
The poppy is a token to show that we have given to the British Legion fund for x-service men, service men and their families. The players can still give the same amount to that fund as they do to wear the poppy on their shirts. McLean can give a similar amount to grass roots football in Derry (and he probably does so already). And if they are wearing a poppy on their shirts without putting their hands in their pockets, then they should hang their heads in shame.
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Post by passtheoatcakes on Nov 1, 2016 17:57:48 GMT
It is. And it is bollocks but they have rules and have to abide by them. Shock horror, FIFA actually have rules that they abide by? Really??? Bollocks to them, wear the poppy lads. |
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Post by passtheoatcakes on Nov 1, 2016 17:58:50 GMT
The problem about simply wearing the poppy and taking the "rap" is that we don't yet know what the "rap" would be. If it is a fine then we should wear the poppy and pay the fine. If it is a point deduction - how would people feel about taking the risk of not qualifying for the World Cup? I heard on the radio today that the FA (and the Scottish FA) were trying to find what the penalty would actually be. Don't care, only care about Stoke. Wear the poppy. |
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