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Oct 30, 2016 21:28:38 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 30, 2016 21:28:38 GMT
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Oct 30, 2016 22:00:35 GMT
Stop uncontrolled immigration, stop people owning more than one home. Problem solved.
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Oct 30, 2016 22:11:01 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 30, 2016 22:11:01 GMT
Stop uncontrolled immigration, stop people owning more than one home. Problem solved. DC Agreed. I also think that the booming private landlords has inflated the market. A few years back there was a woman who visited all the local estate agents where I live, weekly, and would buy the cheapest terrace that came on the market, to then rent out to the potential first time buyer who could not afford to compete with her. Prices were inflated at the time because she helped to ensure that demand outstripped supply I know this doesn't solve the problem in the rental market , but back then she had at least 20 houses in her" portfolio".
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Oct 30, 2016 22:19:53 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Oct 30, 2016 22:19:53 GMT
Stop uncontrolled immigration, stop people owning more than one home. Problem solved. DC Agreed. I also think that the booming private landlords has inflated the market. A few years back there was a woman who visited all the local estate agents where I live, weekly, and would buy the cheapest terrace that came on the market, to then rent out to the potential first time buyer who could not afford to compete with her. Prices were inflated at the time because she helped to ensure that demand outstripped supply I know this doesn't solve the problem in the rental market , but back then she had at least 20 houses in her" portfolio". Homes under the hammer are full of em
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Post by Dutchpeter on Oct 30, 2016 22:45:58 GMT
Stop uncontrolled immigration, stop people owning more than one home. Problem solved. DC Agreed. I also think that the booming private landlords has inflated the market. A few years back there was a woman who visited all the local estate agents where I live, weekly, and would buy the cheapest terrace that came on the market, to then rent out to the potential first time buyer who could not afford to compete with her. Prices were inflated at the time because she helped to ensure that demand outstripped supply I know this doesn't solve the problem in the rental market , but back then she had at least 20 houses in her" portfolio". My family via the female line have lived in the same terraced house for over 100 years. The first few decades through renting, then as Clem Atlee's government gave us the welfare state, and Tory government gave us prosperity, my family were able to buy the house in the late 1950s. The guy who owned 13 houses in the street had died and enabled my gran and grandad to buy the house. Roll on into the 21st century, a former policeman now owns 13 houses in my Street. We have lost all the gains of the baby boom years. A terrible shame.
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Post by scfcmacca on Oct 31, 2016 7:55:30 GMT
Slightly off topic, people who rent what will they do when they retire? How will these people pay the rent? Your pension won't cover rent, bills and food.
I've moved in with my girlfriends parents after renting for 3 years to save for a mortgage or else we would never own a house
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Post by Northy on Oct 31, 2016 8:13:24 GMT
we've got to do something to get the young people to be able to afford a house, building hunderds of thousands of affordable homes has to be done and soon; one of my lads has just moved to Witney for work, he's paying over £500 a month to share a house with 3 other blokes who are also paying the same, it's only a 3 bedroom house, the landlord turned the dining room into the 4th bedroom. It hasn't been decorated since the 80's, it's cunts like these that need sorting out, but the demand outsrtips supply, the landlord has already kicked one bloke out as he let his friend leave a car on the drive whilst he repaired the engine.
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Oct 31, 2016 8:57:03 GMT
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Post by scfcmacca on Oct 31, 2016 8:57:03 GMT
we've got to do something to get the young people to be able to afford a house, building hunderds of thousands of affordable homes has to be done and soon; one of my lads has just moved to Witney for work, he's paying over £500 a month to share a house with 3 other blokes who are also paying the same, it's only a 3 bedroom house, the landlord turned the dining room into the 4th bedroom. It hasn't been decorated since the 80's, it's cunts like these that need sorting out, but the demand outsrtips supply, the landlord has already kicked one bloke out as he let his friend leave a car on the drive whilst he repaired the engine. Blood sucker mate, affordable housing is no more 10k deposit to make it affordable in the long run is a must along with another 2k for costs. I've budgeted 20k for a first time buyer so when we do purchase we can do the house up nicely as well. There needs to be a cap on rent somehow along with a right to buy scheme after X amount of years. But it's hard to do now private landlords/ lady's have taken over.
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Post by Northy on Oct 31, 2016 9:18:16 GMT
Slightly off topic, people who rent what will they do when they retire? How will these people pay the rent? Your pension won't cover rent, bills and food. I've moved in with my girlfriends parents after renting for 3 years to save for a mortgage or else we would never own a house They would have to move to a smaller house and rely on the welfare state? I'm not sure, what happens in countries like Germany where renting is a lot more common than the UK
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Post by ryan4england on Oct 31, 2016 9:18:59 GMT
Stop Handing out free housing to young girls who have children as a career move would help, guaranteed they wouldnt be pregnant if they had nowhere to raise their tribe and lots would stay at home to complete college so they could afford it
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Oct 31, 2016 10:21:14 GMT
we've got to do something to get the young people to be able to afford a house, building hunderds of thousands of affordable homes has to be done and soon; one of my lads has just moved to Witney for work, he's paying over £500 a month to share a house with 3 other blokes who are also paying the same, it's only a 3 bedroom house, the landlord turned the dining room into the 4th bedroom. It hasn't been decorated since the 80's, it's cunts like these that need sorting out, but the demand outsrtips supply, the landlord has already kicked one bloke out as he let his friend leave a car on the drive whilst he repaired the engine. Deplorable situation,when I first moved to Cheltenham I lodged with a Scottish lady whose son worked in London and returned home at the weekends,he told me a few horror stories about his experiences:11 or 12 people sharing a house designed for 3-4,paying an absolute fortune a month to merely share a bedroom with another Tennant etc.... You only have to look at the 'problem' streets in places like Tunstall to see the troubles generated by distant landlords.
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Oct 31, 2016 10:33:08 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Oct 31, 2016 10:33:08 GMT
Clearly being in the Daily Mail this is not true, just propaganda. dailym.ai/2f7c3YlIf it is true , how do we square this with the children of many working class famileus , who are unable to get a home, rented or buy, many of whom have contributed to the system?
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Post by Northy on Oct 31, 2016 12:09:46 GMT
Clearly being in the Daily Mail this is not true, just propaganda. dailym.ai/2f7c3YlIf it is true , how do we square this with the children of many working class famileus , who are unable to get a home, rented or buy, many of whom have contributed to the system? It's things like this that make me fookin sick of our liberal namby pambyism, the MP said it was a result for the family, yes, out of everybody elses pockets, 8 kids and moved here from France in 2012, he ought to be told you bred em, you feed em, and this - But they had to move out after the landlord sold up. They were then put up for four months at the Hampton by Hilton hotel in Luton at a cost of £38,400.
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Oct 31, 2016 12:27:51 GMT
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Post by manmarking on Oct 31, 2016 12:27:51 GMT
Clearly being in the Daily Mail this is not true, just propaganda. dailym.ai/2f7c3YlIf it is true , how do we square this with the children of many working class famileus , who are unable to get a home, rented or buy, many of whom have contributed to the system? Let's not get ahead of ourselves mate
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 31, 2016 15:37:59 GMT
Politicians and NIMBYs screwed the next generation by not building. They've got theirs and can easily buy more for a juicy money stream, why would they care? People love complaining about immigrants and people on benefits, but there are about 2 million "missing" homes that aren't around because we stopped building enough. If Labour hadn't been lying about building 300,000 a year we'd be better off. 100k prefabs over a parliament is a pathetic gesture and 1 million new homes by 2020 is far too few as well. Build me 2 million of these new prefab jobbies by 2020 and then we're talking.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2016 16:29:48 GMT
The last government stats said that around 610,000 homes in the UK were unoccupied of which 205,000 had been empty for over 6 months. The last Labour government brought in Empty Dwelling Management Orders (EMDOs) allowing local authorities take over the management of some residential properties that had been empty for at least six months and where there was "no reasonable expectation" of them being occupied in the near future" The Coalition government changed this to 2 years but you could still enforce it and capture around 80,000 properties that could be renevated and in some cases sold off for £1 like the recent schemes in Stoke-on-Trent and Liverpool bringing life back to run down areas and helping people onto the housing ladder in the bargain.....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 2:58:07 GMT
Solution: Repurposed shipping containers.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 11:52:13 GMT
Slightly off topic, people who rent what will they do when they retire? How will these people pay the rent? Your pension won't cover rent, bills and food. I've moved in with my girlfriends parents after renting for 3 years to save for a mortgage or else we would never own a house We moved in with my mum to save for our first house back in 1980 and never looked back, where we live now is ex council but the joke is we could not afford the council rent on it if we didn't own it as it's more than our mortgage.
Long term buying is the best answer.
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Post by elystokie on Nov 1, 2016 18:36:09 GMT
Solution: Repurposed shipping containers. Spot on. Living in one wouldn't bother me. We had a static caravan in Somerset a few years ago, I could've happily lived full time in that, I told the missus as much, she said I could happily live in a cave :D Spent years sharing messdecks on ships, most things are an improvement to be fair.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Nov 1, 2016 20:29:50 GMT
The last government stats said that around 610,000 homes in the UK were unoccupied of which 205,000 had been empty for over 6 months. The last Labour government brought in Empty Dwelling Management Orders (EMDOs) allowing local authorities take over the management of some residential properties that had been empty for at least six months and where there was "no reasonable expectation" of them being occupied in the near future" The Coalition government changed this to 2 years but you could still enforce it and capture around 80,000 properties that could be renevated and in some cases sold off for £1 like the recent schemes in Stoke-on-Trent and Liverpool bringing life back to run down areas and helping people onto the housing ladder in the bargain..... This the way to start. Inner city regeneration and creating much needed housing. This Government really needs to begin a serious house building project. Build to rent. Create apprenticeships from land acquisition to obviously the building trades then maintenance, admin and legal.
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 1, 2016 20:38:05 GMT
The last government stats said that around 610,000 homes in the UK were unoccupied of which 205,000 had been empty for over 6 months. The last Labour government brought in Empty Dwelling Management Orders (EMDOs) allowing local authorities take over the management of some residential properties that had been empty for at least six months and where there was "no reasonable expectation" of them being occupied in the near future" The Coalition government changed this to 2 years but you could still enforce it and capture around 80,000 properties that could be renevated and in some cases sold off for £1 like the recent schemes in Stoke-on-Trent and Liverpool bringing life back to run down areas and helping people onto the housing ladder in the bargain..... This the way to start. Inner city regeneration and creating much needed housing. This Government really needs to begin a serious house building project. Build to rent. Create apprenticeships from land acquisition to obviously the building trades then maintenance, admin and legal. And that is where the housing is really needed in the City's, much of the proposed building work proposed recently is in and around small towns and villages where housing tends to be more expensive, it seems they are looking to line the pockets of already wealthy property developers and land owners many seem to be local councillors .
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Post by mtrstudent on Nov 2, 2016 5:59:05 GMT
Solution: Repurposed shipping containers. I'd be fucking grateful for a shipping container to call my very own.
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Post by mtrstudent on Nov 2, 2016 6:01:47 GMT
And that is where the housing is really needed in the City's, much of the proposed building work proposed recently is in and around small towns and villages where housing tends to be more expensive, it seems they are looking to line the pockets of already wealthy property developers and land owners many seem to be local councillors . Makes sense to put it where housing's expensive, shows there's demand. I'm still in the states right now but I'm seeing the problem first hand. They're trying to build a new block of flats over the road and all the current flat owners are on the war path to try and stop it because there'll be some more traffic and it might make their places a bit cheaper. It's bloody typical and it's happening all over the place.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Nov 2, 2016 9:51:46 GMT
This the way to start. Inner city regeneration and creating much needed housing. This Government really needs to begin a serious house building project. Build to rent. Create apprenticeships from land acquisition to obviously the building trades then maintenance, admin and legal. And that is where the housing is really needed in the City's, much of the proposed building work proposed recently is in and around small towns and villages where housing tends to be more expensive, it seems they are looking to line the pockets of already wealthy property developers and land owners many seem to be local councillors . Inner city unused housing. Cheap to acquire and it'll be in the right place. I'm not so sure about grants to developers and 'reassurances' to banks to allow borrowing to build. Should just be taxpayers money regenerating houses overseen by Government employed/accountable project managers.
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Post by britsabroad on Nov 2, 2016 10:05:57 GMT
Tax the hell out of second homes and foreigners buying property. The baby boomers are sitting on all this wealth accumulated through decades of cheap finance and keeping the younger generations locked out. My parents earned 10k between them and paid 20k for their first house. If they did that in 2016 they'd earn 20k and have to pay 200k. It's the same the world over but the UK refuses to even admit there's a problem.
On the development side there are also far too many hurdles and jobsworths making it more difficult than it should be.
You could also ask why people given free housing should get a choice where they live and what kind of house they live in. We could have much more efficient usage of what we do have.
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Nov 2, 2016 10:15:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2016 10:15:07 GMT
The answer is very simple:
Allow people to buy agricultural land and build off grid, ecological, nonpermanent dwellings that are designed for self sufficiency. Already happens in Wales. See Tinker's Bubble in England also
Why it won't happen: Wealthy complaining it blots the landscape hence why the planning laws evolved House prices will tumble as demand for standard housing will fall Off grid means no utility bills so any leniency will be heavily lobbied by said companies It means change and will allow those who do not wish to fit in to the madness of mortgage slavery and debt to be free, challenging the status quo and debt fuelled economy Hence the thin end of the wedge for capitalism
If we do live in a free society we need to encourage people to develop new ways of thinking and living
In Scotland if you are a crofter not only will you be given planning permission but possible free grants of up to £20k to build your home. The Scots have it right. Homelessness is evident in cities but hidden in the countryside as second homes are bought in villages for the wealthy and entitled.
Housing is a basic human right. I would be happy to have land, build ecologically and sustainably even if it meant if I sold it it would have to be demolished ie as in Ben Law's case.
If we want to end homelessness we have to make real change and escape this current way of thinking. I say this as living on a boat and owning land I am technically homelessness live in constant uncertainty as CRT could rescind my mooring permit at any time. All I want to do is to live sustainably, on my own land, off grid and live peacefully
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Nov 2, 2016 10:18:37 GMT
Tax the hell out of second homes and foreigners buying property. The baby boomers are sitting on all this wealth accumulated through decades of cheap finance and keeping the younger generations locked out. My parents earned 10k between them and paid 20k for their first house. If they did that in 2016 they'd earn 20k and have to pay 200k. It's the same the world over but the UK refuses to even admit there's a problem. That'll never happen and it shouldn't. Why penalise the private sector of an industry that has been let down by successive Governments? Two different things. Private landlords are coming under the microscope because of the lack of local authority houses.
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Nov 2, 2016 10:19:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2016 10:19:26 GMT
Tax the hell out of second homes and foreigners buying property. The baby boomers are sitting on all this wealth accumulated through decades of cheap finance and keeping the younger generations locked out. My parents earned 10k between them and paid 20k for their first house. If they did that in 2016 they'd earn 20k and have to pay 200k. It's the same the world over but the UK refuses to even admit there's a problem. On the development side there are also far too many hurdles and jobsworths making it more difficult than it should be. You could also ask why people given free housing should get a choice where they live and what kind of house they live in. We could have much more efficient usage of what we do have. Absolutely re foreign investors from the middle East buying up expensive homes in London as both investment and bolt holes in case of revolution, arrest etc at home hence why eastern gangsters are in London When we're out of the EU we can do this
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Nov 2, 2016 10:22:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2016 10:22:10 GMT
Solution: Repurposed shipping containers. I'd be fucking grateful for a shipping container to call my very own. And it should be your unalienable right to buy land and stick one on it. Perfect solution. When you sell the land and move take it with you. Go for it
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Nov 2, 2016 10:43:27 GMT
Tax the hell out of second homes and foreigners buying property. The baby boomers are sitting on all this wealth accumulated through decades of cheap finance and keeping the younger generations locked out. My parents earned 10k between them and paid 20k for their first house. If they did that in 2016 they'd earn 20k and have to pay 200k. It's the same the world over but the UK refuses to even admit there's a problem. On the development side there are also far too many hurdles and jobsworths making it more difficult than it should be. You could also ask why people given free housing should get a choice where they live and what kind of house they live in. We could have much more efficient usage of what we do have. Agree on the development side which is why we should target properties already built with residential use permission. Acquiring rural land would take forever fighting the Greens in the courts. Shuttling people around the country would be a better use of resources but has already been slammed as being against human rights and anyway it doesn't take into account the 100's of thousand of houses that are needed. If there were more local authority houses then people wouldn't have to move or move very far. I can't help thinking that London is the fly in the ointment. A high population of homeless and many claiming housing benefit in one of the most expensive housing areas in the World.
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