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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 30, 2016 19:37:43 GMT
Say a blue one, for minor offences, like taking your shirt off, kicking the ball away etc?
2 blue cards equal 1 yellow.
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 30, 2016 19:58:24 GMT
Say a blue one, for minor offences, like taking your shirt off, kicking the ball away etc? 2 blue cards equal 1 yellow. I think there should be differentiation between those offences that directly affect the play and those that are "misbehaviour" such as shirt removal, kicking the ball away, arguing with the ref, etc. But what the game needs at the highest level is greater use of modern technology and more retrospective disciplinary action to catch the cheats that are getting away with things like diving and wrestling, and to correct referees errors. But I am not in favour of action replays to make refereeing decisions as I think it has ruined rugby, slowing up the game dreadfully. |
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Post by Cast no shadow on Oct 30, 2016 20:06:30 GMT
Kicking the ball away should be a yellow, taking your top off shouldn't nor should jumping over advertising boards.
Diving should be red and asking for a player be booked should be a yellow.
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Post by leicspotter on Oct 30, 2016 20:54:42 GMT
Sin Bin anyone?
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Post by mattador78 on Oct 30, 2016 20:59:16 GMT
Bit harsh its not that bad a thread ohh sin bin |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 21:04:48 GMT
Kicking the ball away should be a yellow, taking your top off shouldn't nor should jumping over advertising boards. Diving should be red and asking for a player be booked should be a yellow. Diving shouldn't be a red you daft fucker, wrong decisions already ruin games. I think any of that referee backchat and pressure should be a yellow though. |
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Post by samba :) on Oct 30, 2016 21:09:11 GMT
Kicking the ball away should be a yellow, taking your top off shouldn't nor should jumping over advertising boards. Diving should be red and asking for a player be booked should be a yellow. Diving shouldn't be a red you daft fucker, wrong decisions already ruin games. I think any of that referee backchat and pressure should be a yellow though. diving should defo lead to a ban though |
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Post by cmc89 on Oct 30, 2016 21:18:08 GMT
making things like kicking the ball away less of a punishment would encourage players.
Everyone would basically get one free "time waste" moment a game wouldn't they?
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Post by lordb on Oct 30, 2016 21:26:02 GMT
Yep Like to see it trialed Too many red cards in football for very little Save the red cards for the nasty stuff Sin bins would give ref's more ammunition and would simply be fairer. |
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 30, 2016 21:34:00 GMT
It could only lead to negative play and time wasting till absence over. |
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Post by leicspotter on Oct 30, 2016 21:39:54 GMT
It could only lead to negative play and time wasting till absence over. Not if time wasting itself was a "sin bin" offence  |
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Post by VolvicStokie on Oct 30, 2016 22:05:06 GMT
I just wanna see players who get injured get treatment on the pitch and the game to continue.
It'll stop all cheating and time wasting
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Post by retired1 on Oct 30, 2016 22:29:21 GMT
Fans taking their tops off should be sent out of the ground. Especially the fat blokes. Newcastle would lose hundreds of fans each game.
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Post by ElworthPotter on Oct 30, 2016 22:47:23 GMT
Kicking the ball away should be a yellow, taking your top off shouldn't nor should jumping over advertising boards. Diving should be red and asking for a player be booked should be a yellow. Nail on head sir |
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 31, 2016 2:46:27 GMT
making things like kicking the ball away less of a punishment would encourage players. Everyone would basically get one free "time waste" moment a game wouldn't they? Maybe not if "blue cards" counted towards suspensions |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Oct 31, 2016 6:17:15 GMT
Sin bin should be trialled IMO. Having a sin bin in place of yellow cards would mean that the opposing team gets the advantage from a misdemeanour by a player. It would not affect the red card because a second sin bin offence means a sending off. Then leave yellow cards for things like taking your shirt off and time wasting after a goal but TBH all that could be done away with if the game has to be restarted within say one minute of a goal regardless of where players are on the pitch.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2016 6:30:55 GMT
I think rather than a sin bin, maybe a period of say 10 minutes when a red card can be overturned if the 4th official reviews the incident and sees that the ref has made a mistake, during this time the player sits in a technical area, alone, and awaits a final and binding decision.
How many times have we seen refs actually booking the wrong player for instance.
I'd even go as far to say this 10 minute review period also applies to Yellow cards.
Obviously if a player gets booked, and the booking results in a penalty, then the penalty must stand, but the card, either yellow or as is often the case red, can be overturned in play... ( should an incident occur during the final few minutes, then the same rule applies, but obviously if the final whistle blows it is too late, other than the card being overturned. It saves all this nonsense of lodging appeals to the FA and being in limbo for a few days whilst the outcome is determined.
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Post by stevetheboater on Oct 31, 2016 7:20:43 GMT
Multiple yellows should not be a red but a player who is booked more than once should be suspended for the next game as well as the yellows counting towards any cumulative suspension. Sendings off always ruin games and should only ever be a last resort.
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on Oct 31, 2016 8:18:10 GMT
What is the reasoning behind a yellow for taking shirts off? What items of clothing are acceptable to be removed and why?
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Post by Theninjabadger on Oct 31, 2016 8:19:38 GMT
Kicking the ball away should be a yellow, taking your top off shouldn't nor should jumping over advertising boards. Diving should be red and asking for a player be booked should be a yellow. Also celebrating in with your own fans shouldn't be a yellow either. |
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Post by skemstokie on Oct 31, 2016 8:22:54 GMT
Yep Like to see it trialed Too many red cards in football for very little Save the red cards for the nasty stuff Sin bins would give ref's more ammunition and would simply be fairer. Maybe as a alternative to a second yellow for 2nd. minor bookable offence this could work,maybe 10 minute in the bin is punishment enough with no suspension to follow ? |
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Post by pottarius on Oct 31, 2016 9:01:09 GMT
Say a blue one, for minor offences, like taking your shirt off, kicking the ball away etc? 2 blue cards equal 1 yellow. Would slow the game down to introduce cards below yellow - most of the ref's would be running around with a semi delighting in their new found power to irritate players and the fans (and take a breather at the same time). Sin Bins as mentioned may be an option but again adds a layer of complexity and will likely stem the flow of a game Much prefer a more powerful retrospective action regime including (in extreme cases) the docking of points for professional cheating such as diving to gain a penalty or off the ball violent conduct (we'd need sell Charlie pronto of course!) |
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Post by walrus on Oct 31, 2016 9:44:13 GMT
What is the reasoning behind a yellow for taking shirts off? What items of clothing are acceptable to be removed and why? I was once told that the yellow for taking shirts off is because the photos that most often make it into newspapers and sports websites are the ones of players celebrating goals. Sponsors were getting annoyed that their logos weren't visible in the photos when players took their shirts off. I'm not sure how true that is, but I could definitely believe it to be a factor, if not the only reason. |
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Post by Theninjabadger on Oct 31, 2016 9:47:22 GMT
What is the reasoning behind a yellow for taking shirts off? What items of clothing are acceptable to be removed and why? I was once told that the yellow for taking shirts off is because the photos that most often make it into newspapers and sports websites are the ones of players celebrating goals. Sponsors were getting annoyed that their logos weren't visible in the photos when players took their shirts off. I'm not sure how true that is, but I could definitely believe it to be a factor, if not the only reason. I always thought they claimed it was antagonising opposition fans. But your reasoning sounds much more reasonable. Of course the FA care more about money than the fans |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Oct 31, 2016 12:06:26 GMT
What is the reasoning behind a yellow for taking shirts off? What items of clothing are acceptable to be removed and why? My understanding is that as football is beamed around the world it will reach some cultures gratuitous male nudity is regarded as offensive. Broadcaster in those regions paying for rights want to see some punishment within the game for offending their viewers. Personally I put it in the same bracket as badge kissing and find it all a bit cringeworthy. If the rules are you get booked or it that's fine with me. It's one area refs are pretty consistent so you now what you're going to get. |
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Post by ohbottom on Oct 31, 2016 12:12:27 GMT
Sin bin should be trialled IMO. Having a sin bin in place of yellow cards would mean that the opposing team gets the advantage from a misdemeanour by a player. It would not affect the red card because a second sin bin offence means a sending off. Then leave yellow cards for things like taking your shirt off and time wasting after a goal but TBH all that could be done away with if the game has to be restarted within say one minute of a goal regardless of where players are on the pitch. I've long thought the team conceding the goal should be allowed to take the KO as soon as they like irrespective of where the opposition players are. It would stop all those ridiculous rehearsed celebrations. Any player trying to prevent the quick restart by encroaching into the centre-circle should be booked. |
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Post by RAF on Oct 31, 2016 12:23:43 GMT
I think there should be a Green Card to be used just after half time to reinstate any player sent off after the ref has realised after watching the video that he has dropped a fucking bollock!
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Post by GoBoks on Oct 31, 2016 18:46:51 GMT
What is the reasoning behind a yellow for taking shirts off? What items of clothing are acceptable to be removed and why? I think it has to do with bad odors being allowed to escape and affect the standard of play from other players thereby gaining an unfair advantage. Logically shirts (armpits), Pants (shitpits), Shoes & Socks all fall into this category. Which raises the question why are people not booked for losing their shoes? My recommendation is that everyone be issued with an armband that they can remove an wave in the air to celebrate scoring a goal. |
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Post by Royal Donut on Oct 31, 2016 19:06:22 GMT
What is the reasoning behind a yellow for taking shirts off? What items of clothing are acceptable to be removed and why? When are 90% photos taken and replays? Answer after a goal, a sponsor spends tens of millions for this, for a player to just take his shirt off is a kick in the balls for a sponsor. After all money talks. |
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