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Post by blurtonboy on Oct 28, 2016 17:00:34 GMT
Theres an understatement, a cunt always has creases. ^^^ experience is knowledge & bullshit is not accepted. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2016 17:17:34 GMT
Ignoring the fact that 90% of what you've put is a combination of supposition, your opinion and just plain old bollocks, what is going on and on and on about it going to achieve? Come on thats burying your head in the sand. Its an issue Hughes and his team need to adjust. There should be pressure on them from all angles inside the club, supporters and media to get to grips with the issue. Totally agree alster, we cannot ignore 3 years on the run Whilst most of us still get behind the team (players & management) when we are struggling and are ecstatic/relieved when we snap poor runs i feel for it to happen once is acceptable, twice is careless 3 times is worrying and whilst 3 nine place finishes is acceptable we need to reinforce the a 3 times `is worrying` stat so it is NOT forgotten and we can for once enjoy the first two months of the season |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2016 17:18:41 GMT
Come on thats burying your head in the sand. Its an issue Hughes and his team need to adjust. There should be pressure on them from all angles inside the club, supporters and media to get to grips with the issue. Totally agree alster, we cannot ignore 3 years on the run Whilst most of us still get behind the team (players & management) when we are struggling and are ecstatic/relieved when we snap poor runs i feel for it to happen once is acceptable, twice is careless 3 times is worrying and whilst 3 nine place finishes is acceptable we need to reinforce the a 3 times `is worrying` stat so it is NOT forgotten and we can for once enjoy the first two months of the season Meant to add so as the poor start this season is NOT forgotten August 17 |
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Post by Kjones9 on Oct 28, 2016 17:29:05 GMT
So we bleat on about it ALL FUCKING SEASON? That will get you far... not! It'll just make you all look like bitter cunts.
We've turned the corner and I predict another good points tally and league position come the end of the season.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2016 17:42:00 GMT
So we bleat on about it ALL FUCKING SEASON? That will get you far... not! It'll just make you all look like bitter cunts. We've turned the corner and I predict another good points tally and league position come the end of the season. If you are content with a poor start every season that is your choice because i happen to hold a differing view on a topic on a public forum does not make me a bitter xxxx express a different view by all means, do not allude to me being a bitter xxxx Thank You |
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Post by alster on Oct 28, 2016 17:45:46 GMT
So we bleat on about it ALL FUCKING SEASON? That will get you far... not! It'll just make you all look like bitter cunts. We've turned the corner and I predict another good points tally and league position come the end of the season. If you are content with a poor start every season that is your choice because i happen to hold a differing view on a topic on a public forum does not make me a bitter xxxx express a different view by all means, do not allude to me being a bitter xxxx Thank You Some people don't seem to be able to help it. They latch on to someone or something and won't hear a word of critisism no matter how apt. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2016 17:47:54 GMT
If you are content with a poor start every season that is your choice because i happen to hold a differing view on a topic on a public forum does not make me a bitter xxxx express a different view by all means, do not allude to me being a bitter xxxx Thank You Some people don't seem to be able to help it. They latch on to someone or something and won't hear a word of critisism no matter how apt. True alster very true |
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Post by alster on Oct 28, 2016 17:55:33 GMT
So we bleat on about it ALL FUCKING SEASON? That will get you far... not! It'll just make you all look like bitter cunts. We've turned the corner and I predict another good points tally and league position come the end of the season. I predict exactly the same wingy but its a recurring issue that I don't think we can simply ignore. |
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Post by Kjones9 on Oct 28, 2016 18:13:43 GMT
So we bleat on about it ALL FUCKING SEASON? That will get you far... not! It'll just make you all look like bitter cunts. We've turned the corner and I predict another good points tally and league position come the end of the season. I predict exactly the same wingy but its a recurring issue that I don't think we can simply ignore. What's the answer then? The club aren't going to be bothered because as you say Hughes is delivering good seasons (excellent seasons position wise in fact). I suggest you organise a fans forum and air your grievances to the man himself. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 28, 2016 18:17:35 GMT
I predict exactly the same wingy but its a recurring issue that I don't think we can simply ignore. What's the answer then? The club aren't going to be bothered because as you say Hughes is delivering good seasons (excellent seasons position wise in fact). I suggest you organise a fans forum and air your grievances to the man himself. Yes, Hughes has delivered 3 consecutive top 10 finishes but if we actually started the season in August like we're supposed to then we could be up there with the likes of Southampton.. why wouldn't you want us to address that glaring issue? I'm no knicker wetter but I always like to think of attainable ways to better ourselves. |
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Post by alster on Oct 28, 2016 18:25:20 GMT
I predict exactly the same wingy but its a recurring issue that I don't think we can simply ignore. What's the answer then? The club aren't going to be bothered because as you say Hughes is delivering good seasons (excellent seasons position wise in fact). I suggest you organise a fans forum and air your grievances to the man himself. I'm sure there must be people within the club who look for areas of potential improvement that will press the issue(surely). It does concern me how accepting Hughes and his team are of it. He's done good things but that doesn't exempt him from areas of concern. They always say success is borne of small improvements, well there is plenty of room for improvement in this area. |
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Post by johnnyjarvis on Oct 29, 2016 18:28:14 GMT
I think MH believes he is a clever manager when he does his press conferences. What he is effectively doing is lowering every Stoke City's expectations and ambition. The dourness is a deflection tactic so he keeps us believing we continue to over achieve under his stewardship.
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Post by alster on Oct 29, 2016 18:44:32 GMT
I think MH believes he is a clever manager when he does his press conferences. What he is effectively doing is lowering every Stoke City's expectations and ambition. The dourness is a deflection tactic so he keeps us believing we continue to over achieve under his stewardship. I don't think he's into that type of thing to be honest, that was more Pulis' bag. I think he's just very dead pan, its something I suffer from myself. If I was telling you I'd just won the lottery you'd think I was a bit gutted about it. |
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Post by johnnyjarvis on Oct 29, 2016 18:55:12 GMT
MH stated something in a previous PC a couple of weeks back and said we were one win from where his target was, but previous to that stated we were unlikely to achieve our end of season target.
I agree he is not a carosmatic manager but in my opinion he is protecting his lack of achievement through lowering our expectations. This comes across every Thursday on PC day
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Post by stokiejoe on Oct 29, 2016 19:04:22 GMT
Why can't Stoke get some decent microphones for the questioners?
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 29, 2016 19:09:54 GMT
MH stated something in a previous PC a couple of weeks back and said we were one win from where his target was, but previous to that stated we were unlikely to achieve our end of season target. I agree he is not a carosmatic manager but in my opinion he is protecting his lack of achievement through lowering our expectations. This comes across every Thursday on PC day The problem with making bold /optimistic/ambitious statements is the wonderful British press will hang them around your neck like a noose just waiting for you to fail so they can have a field day dancing around your demise. |
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Post by alster on Oct 29, 2016 19:13:36 GMT
MH stated something in a previous PC a couple of weeks back and said we were one win from where his target was, but previous to that stated we were unlikely to achieve our end of season target. I agree he is not a carosmatic manager but in my opinion he is protecting his lack of achievement through lowering our expectations. This comes across every Thursday on PC day Don't think so what so ever. His end of season target will have been a high benchmark, he has his failings which I'm not shy in pointing out on here but lack of achievement just isn't one of them. |
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Post by johnnyjarvis on Oct 29, 2016 19:16:46 GMT
I agree with that but I thinks MH deminor rubs off on players and us fans. You take Juergen Klopp for Liverpool, what a breathe of fresh air to the league. Love him or loathe him, he has the players and fans believing they are winners. I personally think he is the best manager across Europe because of his personality and tactics. MH is a pessimist and that is slowly germinating through the club. Perhaps a bit extreme but I believe this to be true IMO
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 29, 2016 21:56:13 GMT
I agree with that but I thinks MH deminor rubs off on players and us fans. You take Juergen Klopp for Liverpool, what a breathe of fresh air to the league. Love him or loathe him, he has the players and fans believing they are winners. I personally think he is the best manager across Europe because of his personality and tactics. MH is a pessimist and that is slowly germinating through the club. Perhaps a bit extreme but I believe this to be true IMO Actually disagree his delivery may be laconic or laid back but his content is assured , self confident and determined always a sense of victory is possible without the trite positivity of others we could name whatever the circumstances. Agree some of his manner is reflected in the team but To say it's pessimism is to confuse style and content .. Klopp is eexcellent a German Shankly in the making but Dave Mackay and Bill Nicholson were very effective managers without extrovert personna . |
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Post by alster on Oct 30, 2016 11:40:14 GMT
I agree with that but I thinks MH deminor rubs off on players and us fans. You take Juergen Klopp for Liverpool, what a breathe of fresh air to the league. Love him or loathe him, he has the players and fans believing they are winners. I personally think he is the best manager across Europe because of his personality and tactics. MH is a pessimist and that is slowly germinating through the club. Perhaps a bit extreme but I believe this to be true IMO I don't see how Hughes perceived pessimism can germinate throughout the club when he took over from the most pessimistic person in football management surely it would already have been fully germinated, fertilised and growing like wildfire. I agree with you that Klopp is a breathe of fresh air not sure whether he's the best manager in Europe but He's got them playing lovely football and does have that upbeat infectious personality that breeds positivity. |
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