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Post by WhyDelilah on Oct 22, 2016 16:44:57 GMT
As chiefdelilah rightly said, it's too early to start taking advice from Winston Wolfe, but over the past 4 games we've clearly turned a corner. It doesn't eradicate all of the concerns that went before. Any doubts that we'd go down have now been calmed though. It's too early to suggest we'll finish in the top 10 again but there's plenty of evidence that gives us confidence there's at least 3 teams worse than us. The only criticism today (similar to last week against Sunderland) was that we didn't kill the game off and get the 3rd or 4th goal. Having said that, when you're down there and you're struggling, results are king. It'll be ace to sit down with a cold beer tonight and watch some top drawer goals from Shaqiri on Match of the Day. It makes it all worthwhile 👍 |
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Post by lordb on Oct 22, 2016 16:47:36 GMT
Swansea are better than both Sunderland and Hull
Got to fancy Bony and Allen to score
I'll take four points from next two games.
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Post by superheroantonius on Oct 22, 2016 16:47:57 GMT
Perhaps we could just as easily phrase this as ...
We seem to have turned a corner since Lee Grant went in goal
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Post by bathstoke on Oct 22, 2016 16:50:02 GMT
Shake that monkey off their back. Never really understood that phrase...
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Post by WhyDelilah on Oct 22, 2016 16:52:41 GMT
Perhaps we could just as easily phrase this as ... We seem to have turned a corner since Lee Grant went in goal He's definitely made a difference mate. The news that Jack isn't far away is a huge boost too. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 16:53:23 GMT
Sales of manpons in ST postcodes are down significantly.
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Post by mattador78 on Oct 22, 2016 16:58:42 GMT
Even better we scored from a corner last week 👍
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 17:01:02 GMT
It doesn't eradicate all of the concerns that went before.Yes it does. Any doubts that we'd go down have now been calmed though.Never a question that we would go down. It's too early to suggest we'll finish in the top 10 againWe'll finish in the top ten again. but there's plenty of evidence that gives us confidence there's at least 3 teams worse than us.
What a negative assessment. |
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Post by WhyDelilah on Oct 22, 2016 17:02:32 GMT
It doesn't eradicate all of the concerns that went before.Yes it does. Any doubts that we'd go down have now been calmed though.Never a question that we would go down. It's too early to suggest we'll finish in the top 10 againWe'll finish in the top ten again. but there's plenty of evidence that gives us confidence there's at least 3 teams worse than us.
What a negative assessment. Disagree with all of those points. |
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Post by mattador78 on Oct 22, 2016 17:02:42 GMT
Sales of manpons in ST postcodes are down significantly. Until about wednesday and the thought of the swansea game for some kicks in and the knicker wetters rejoice at the thought we might get tonked on tv. Ps the kids are now off school for a week so in the words of arnies fake head in total recall "get ready for a suprise" as it could get weirder than normal |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 17:03:10 GMT
Disagree with all of those points. What a surprise. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 22, 2016 17:03:19 GMT
Perhaps we could just as easily phrase this as ... We seem to have turned a corner since Lee Grant went in goal He's definitely made a difference mate. The news that Jack isn't far away is a huge boost too. Any news re Jack? |
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Post by WhyDelilah on Oct 22, 2016 17:03:52 GMT
He's definitely made a difference mate. The news that Jack isn't far away is a huge boost too. Any news re Jack? He started training end of last week. Won't be long now. |
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Post by WhyDelilah on Oct 22, 2016 17:04:12 GMT
Disagree with all of those points. What a surprise. Why? |
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Post by Scrotnig on Oct 22, 2016 17:04:36 GMT
Perhaps we could just as easily phrase this as ... We seem to have turned a corner since Lee Grant went in goal He's definitely made a difference mate. The news that Jack isn't far away is a huge boost too. Hmm. I don't think Jack can simply walk back into the team. Grant has done so incredibly well, he has seized his chance, and who's to say how much of our improvement might not be down to him? If we are still winning when Jack's ready, should we upset that apple cart? It's not a question I am able to easily answer. |
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Post by wuzza on Oct 22, 2016 17:04:59 GMT
More solidity in midfield - teams aren't walking straight through us as they were at the start of the season.
If we were sharper up front could have done a good deal of repair work to our goal difference.
Certainly improved but a bit of a way to go yet - a few better tests coming up.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 17:06:05 GMT
No corner turned yet
This has all been entirely predictable -and we have a run of games much more suited to us getting points in the bag
Mark Hughes has neever doubted this would happen
and - long may this continue
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Post by scfcno1fan on Oct 22, 2016 17:09:32 GMT
Perhaps we could just as easily phrase this as ... We seem to have turned a corner since Lee Grant went in goal This to me is the key contributing factor by some distance. |
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Post by Scrotnig on Oct 22, 2016 17:14:09 GMT
More solidity in midfield - teams aren't walking straight through us as they were at the start of the season. If we were sharper up front could have done a good deal of repair work to our goal difference. Certainly improved but a bit of a way to go yet - a few better tests coming up. We've improved the goal difference by four in two games, that's a pretty decent turnaround by any standards. |
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Post by yeswilko on Oct 22, 2016 17:28:44 GMT
Just need an in form striker and away we go it seems
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Post by senojbor on Oct 22, 2016 17:35:21 GMT
There must be issues with pre season preparations because the team were clearly not up to speed the last two seasons.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 22, 2016 17:37:44 GMT
He started training end of last week. Won't be long now. Great news though Grant has been outstanding. Means we can give Jack time till he's definately ready. |
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Post by milky on Oct 22, 2016 17:43:46 GMT
Make no mistake there are one or two so called Stoke fans that have had their noses put firmly out of joint this last few weekends.
Never mind lads..we are bound to lose again soon so it will be happy days again....
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Post by jezzascfc on Oct 22, 2016 17:46:09 GMT
The solidity of Grant in goal, the blossoming Ryan and BMI partnership, and Geoff and Glenn holding in front of them, means the three attacking midfielders can concentrate far more on attacking, knowing that there is someone protecting the back door. Surprise surprise, they are now doing their best work in the final third and looking far more menacing. A fit and firing forward is all we need now to really click into gear.
It is a long way back into this team for Imbula and Bojan now, although I would love us to have only one holder, with Joe box to box and Bojan at his best conjuring up magic as part of the BMX trio - if everyone does their job this is surely our best system to give us the best of both worlds? Would anyone else risk this against the likes of Swansea at home?
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Post by mrred on Oct 22, 2016 17:46:34 GMT
Said the same after west brom. We've definitely turned the corner.
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Post by oslostokie1 on Oct 22, 2016 17:51:33 GMT
I am not sure there was much of a corner to turn, just a few tweaks here and there such as Grant 4 Given, Indi settling in, Shaq returning from injury, Cameron providing an additional defensive shield and, let's be honest, weaker opposition he last two games.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 22, 2016 17:53:08 GMT
The solidity of Grant in goal, the blossoming Ryan and BMI partnership, and Geoff and Glenn holding in front of them, means the three attacking midfielders can concentrate far more on attacking, knowing that there is someone protecting the back door. Surprise surprise, they are now doing their best work in the final third and looking far more menacing. A fit and firing forward is all we need now to really click into gear. It is a long way back into this team for Imbula and Bojan now, although I would love us to have only one holder, with Joe box to box and Bojan at his best conjuring up magic as part of the BMX trio - if everyone does their job this is surely our best system to give us the best of both worlds? Would anyone else risk this against the likes of Swansea at home? If we can bring in that beast of a defensive mid to replace Glenn and Geoff and Bojan and Bony can find their form, then we'll have the best team in the Prem outside of the top six IMHO. |
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Oct 22, 2016 18:00:29 GMT
I'd have sacked Hughes after the Palace match. Guess this is why Coates is a multi millionaire businessman and football club owner and I'm not  . We're not totally out of the woods yet and some concerns remain such as our inability to get our strikers on the score sheet (and on that subject, Bony's form in general). But crucially we've stopped haemorrhaging goals and found a way of playing that allows us to create and score goals. The one caveat to this is we've just beaten the two teams who are likely to be the worst 2 teams in the division this season. We now need to show that we can also beat the mid table sides and that will determine which half of the table we finish in this season. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 22, 2016 18:06:27 GMT
Talking about corners,has anyone mentioned we scored from one last week?  |
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Post by stokerstayinup on Oct 22, 2016 18:10:14 GMT
The corner was turned,against Hull,in the cup match.
Keep up!
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