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Post by manmarking on Oct 21, 2016 7:01:00 GMT
The problem is that before we intervened in Iraq and Afghanistan the UK was full of rabid fucking lefties moaning that we weren't doing anything to help the poor people from getting butchered by Saddam Hussein and the like. I don't care what anyone thinks about the pros and cons of our recent military action - it's happened so we need to get on with it. So, as it's happened, we need to protect our borders and ensure that we're only letting in people who are in genuine danger and can contribute to our society. It's obvious to anyone with half a brain that too large a percentage of the people we let in from certain areas\nations are complete and utter worthless lying pieces of shit who, at some point, will cause harm to society. The left want to interfere with everything in their quest to be all goody goody but expect perfect peaceful outcomes with no understanding as to the real world outcome. If you're a lefty shut the fuck up, get on with your lives, work hard and stop fucking moaning. You make a mess of everything. Well you're fucking moaning about people fucking moaning
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Post by manmarking on Oct 21, 2016 7:03:19 GMT
There's plenty of hate in the air. A good 99% of it from SJWs who round upon anyone & everyone who doesn't agree 100% with their views on everything. Serious question. What's an SJW - and does it include that fish idiot? I'm guessing it must do if 99% of hate comes from them. Because Mr fish idiot spouts nothing but hate and anger. He is one sad fucker. In carps' case it means "Sad Jaded Wanker" but I defer to Roger for the more widely-used definition
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 21, 2016 7:15:58 GMT
Here's **************
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Post by manmarking on Oct 21, 2016 8:16:34 GMT
Here's ************** Here's a daft racist
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Post by Rick Grimes on Oct 21, 2016 12:22:58 GMT
The Sun's stance on Gary Lineker is an absolute joke. Who still buys that rubbish?
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Post by themistocles on Oct 21, 2016 12:31:11 GMT
The Sun's stance on Gary Lineker is an absolute joke. Who still buys that rubbish? Why's that ? They've abused him for having a different opinion to them because he's abusing people for having a different opinion to him.... Hardly a joke. What's the difference ?
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Oct 21, 2016 12:31:37 GMT
But he is part of the problem.
Person 1 - "Did you hear we're bringing over some refugee children?" Person 2 - "Really? That's fine by me, it's good that we're helping out the most vulnerable & needy." Person 1 - "Here they come now, I hope they can now have a safe & normal childhood." Person 2 - "Christ, they don't look like children to me, infact they look like a bunch of 30 year old men. Where are the children?" Person 1 - "RACIST, RACIST!!! YOU FUCKING HEARTLESS BASTARD RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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Post by themistocles on Oct 21, 2016 12:37:13 GMT
But he is part of the problem. Person 1 - "Did you hear we're bringing over some refugee children?" Person 2 - "Really? That's fine by me, it's good that we're helping out the most vulnerable & needy." Person 1 - "Here they come now, I hope they can now have a safe & normal childhood." Person 2 - "Christ, they don't look like children to me, infact they look like a bunch of 30 year old men. Where are the children?" Person 1 - "RACIST, RACIST!!! YOU FUCKING HEARTLESS BASTARD RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" There here lies the problem with PC Britain.
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Post by manmarking on Oct 21, 2016 12:50:05 GMT
The Sun's stance on Gary Lineker is an absolute joke. Who still buys that rubbish? It's brave of Lineker to wade into this because he will get a lot of shit for it. And has done already, from The Mail amongst others. Which is ironic, given that the Mail recently described Heidi Klum's eight year old daughter as a "leggy beauty” who “showed off her best model walk". Seems it's fine to nonce off over children regardless of age but god forbid any ethnics who may or may not be children should want to seek refuge in our sacred land. There's a moral to this story but...oh, sorry, no there isn't. It's amoral
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Post by Rick Grimes on Oct 21, 2016 12:58:14 GMT
The Sun's stance on Gary Lineker is an absolute joke. Who still buys that rubbish? Why's that ? They've abused him for having a different opinion to them because he's abusing people for having a different opinion to him.... Hardly a joke. What's the difference ? Abusing people? Here's what he said 'The treatment by some towards these young refugees is hideously racist and utterly heartless. What's happening to our country?'
He's criticising racists, nothing wrong with that.
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 21, 2016 13:13:30 GMT
Why's that ? They've abused him for having a different opinion to them because he's abusing people for having a different opinion to him.... Hardly a joke. What's the difference ? Abusing people? Here's what he said 'The treatment by some towards these young refugees is hideously racist and utterly heartless. What's happening to our country?'
He's criticising racists, nothing wrong with that. I've seen plenty of heartless comments but racism where ? As for the what's happening to our country myth, the Calais jungle has been there for more than 10 years why all the hand wringing now from these remainers now? Most of the comments have been over the false retweeting of the claim one of the refugees was an intrepretor, and considering his every tweet is met with shat on etc i'm sure he can deal with. Talk of sacking him is rubbish though his opinions are nothing to do with his dayjob.
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Post by starkiller on Oct 21, 2016 13:28:44 GMT
Why's that ? They've abused him for having a different opinion to them because he's abusing people for having a different opinion to him.... Hardly a joke. What's the difference ? Abusing people? Here's what he said 'The treatment by some towards these young refugees is hideously racist and utterly heartless. What's happening to our country?'
He's criticising racists, nothing wrong with that. People are more concerned that he was shouting off with 'facts' from a 'charity' that was blatantly untrue. The 'charity' (read profit-making company) clearly felt the need to activate damage limitation because for a company like theirs perception is what they rely on to keep the cash rolling in.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Oct 21, 2016 13:31:50 GMT
Abusing people? Here's what he said 'The treatment by some towards these young refugees is hideously racist and utterly heartless. What's happening to our country?'
He's criticising racists, nothing wrong with that. I've seen plenty of heartless comments but racism where ? As for the what's happening to our country myth, the Calais jungle has been there for more than 10 years why all the hand wringing now from these remainers now? Most of the comments have been over the false retweeting of the claim one of the refugees was an intrepretor, and considering his every tweet is met with shat on etc i'm sure he can deal with. Talk of sacking him is rubbish though his opinions are nothing to do with his dayjob. There are undoubtedly people that have expressed racist views towards refugees and the likes of twitter have plenty of examples of this. Yeah ok he retweeted a claim that has since been proven to be false but still the backlash against him by The Sun is complete rubbish, I mean how many times have they published things that have been proven to be false.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 21, 2016 13:34:37 GMT
Fucking hell this has turned into the fastest re-writing of history on record!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 21, 2016 13:38:34 GMT
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Post by starkiller on Oct 21, 2016 13:38:58 GMT
I give neither two shits for Lineker or the Sun.
But let's be clear there are no fuck-ups here, it's all been done for long planned reasons.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Oct 21, 2016 13:41:00 GMT
Abusing people? Here's what he said 'The treatment by some towards these young refugees is hideously racist and utterly heartless. What's happening to our country?'
He's criticising racists, nothing wrong with that. People are more concerned that he was shouting off with 'facts' from a 'charity' that was blatantly untrue. The 'charity' (read profit-making company) clearly felt the need to activate damage limitation because for a company like theirs perception is what they rely on to keep the cash rolling in. I think he should have been careful before using such 'facts' but calls for him to lose his job because of it are rubbish. The right wing media's (Mail, Sun) treatment of him is also rubbish, considering they don't like bleeding heart liberals they're showing a lot of irony by getting themsevles in such a frenzy about a bloke who presents football showing a bit of compassion.
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Post by ColonelMustard on Oct 21, 2016 13:43:50 GMT
But he is part of the problem. Person 1 - "Did you hear we're bringing over some refugee children?" Person 2 - "Really? That's fine by me, it's good that we're helping out the most vulnerable & needy." Person 1 - "Here they come now, I hope they can now have a safe & normal childhood." Person 2 - "Christ, they don't look like children to me, infact they look like a bunch of 30 year old men. Where are the children?" in my experience and it seems Linekers person 1,- does it really matter, wheres our compassion person 2 - why dont you adopt a fucking jihadi then person 1 oh fuck, another one
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Post by partickpotter on Oct 21, 2016 13:44:16 GMT
I give neither two shits for Lineker or the Sun. But let's be clear there are no fuck-ups here, it's all been done for long planned reasons. Absolutely The lizard people from the lower levels of the fourth dimension are behind all of this.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Oct 21, 2016 13:46:55 GMT
I think he should have been careful before using such 'facts' but calls for him to lose his job because of it are rubbish. That's what SJWs have been doing to people for a good while now. Anyone who dares to say/post/think anything which doesn't fit their own views are putting their careers at risk. It's not nice, is it?
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Oct 21, 2016 13:53:17 GMT
in my experience and it seems Linekers person 1,- does it really matter, wheres our compassion person 2 - why dont you adopt a fucking jihadi then person 1 oh fuck, another one So you don't mind that we were promised refugee children from Syria but we've ended up with fully grown men from all corners?
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Post by Rick Grimes on Oct 21, 2016 13:54:29 GMT
I think he should have been careful before using such 'facts' but calls for him to lose his job because of it are rubbish. That's what SJWs have been doing to people for a good while now. Anyone who dares to say/post/think anything which doesn't fit their own views are putting their careers at risk. It's not nice, is it? I actually agree with one of your posts from the other day where you described yourself as 'alt right'. I think there are SJW's that take completely unreasonable however Gary Lineker does not fall into this catergory.
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 21, 2016 13:55:36 GMT
I've seen plenty of heartless comments but racism where ? As for the what's happening to our country myth, the Calais jungle has been there for more than 10 years why all the hand wringing now from these remainers now? Most of the comments have been over the false retweeting of the claim one of the refugees was an intrepretor, and considering his every tweet is met with shat on etc i'm sure he can deal with. Talk of sacking him is rubbish though his opinions are nothing to do with his dayjob. There are undoubtedly people that have expressed racist views towards refugees and the likes of twitter have plenty of examples of this. Yeah ok he retweeted a claim that has since been proven to be false but still the backlash against him by The Sun is complete rubbish, I mean how many times have they published things that have been proven to be false. The Sun's most famous reporter the Fake Sheikh was being sentenced to jail today for perverting the course of justice so I'm sure they'd have found something to fake outrage over if not this, there is still some debate over whether the "worst is yet to come" that Brooks mentioned to NOTW staff on closing was the alleged hacking of 9/11 victims or the alleged involvement in covering up the murder of Daniel Morgan as he was due to expose police corruption. Twitter really isn't representative of real life though, most of the debate on the refugees has been over whether they were really kids, despite the fact the refugeees have undoubtedly been coached to say they are kids. the numbers are so small its pretty sad if we as a country can't cope with this small number of people however old they are.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Oct 21, 2016 13:58:36 GMT
There are undoubtedly people that have expressed racist views towards refugees and the likes of twitter have plenty of examples of this. Yeah ok he retweeted a claim that has since been proven to be false but still the backlash against him by The Sun is complete rubbish, I mean how many times have they published things that have been proven to be false. The Sun's most famous reporter the Fake Sheikh was being sentenced to jail today for perverting the course of justice so I'm sure they'd have found something to fake outrage over if not this, there is still some debate over whether the "worst is yet to come" that Brooks mentioned to NOTW staff on closing was the alleged hacking of 9/11 victims or the alleged involvement in covering up the murder of Daniel Morgan as he was due to expose police corruption. Twitter really isn't representative of real life though, most of the debate on the refugees has been over whether they were really kids, despite the fact the refugeees have undoubtedly been coached to say they are kids. the numbers are so small its pretty sad if we as a country can't cope with this small number of people however old they are.
I agree, particuarly the bit in bold.
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Post by themistocles on Oct 21, 2016 15:02:37 GMT
Why's that ? They've abused him for having a different opinion to them because he's abusing people for having a different opinion to him.... Hardly a joke. What's the difference ? Abusing people? Here's what he said 'The treatment by some towards these young refugees is hideously racist and utterly heartless. What's happening to our country?'
He's criticising racists, nothing wrong with that. And in his comments he called anyone suggesting age checks idiots and racists ...
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Oct 21, 2016 15:09:16 GMT
the numbers are so small its pretty sad if we as a country can't cope with this small number of people however old they are.
I agree, particuarly the bit in bold. The only problem with that is that you're making it sound like we've just got to deal with some small number of immigrants. "Oh come on now, it doesn't matter if they're fully grown men rather than the young children we were lead to believe we were getting. I'm sure we can find room for them somewhere you heartless bastard racists". That's all fine and dandy, but what about the next bunch of immigrants? And the bunch after them? And the bunch after them? And the bunch after them? How many does it take untill you agree we need to get this under control? And what if the next bunch are grown men instead of young children? What if the bunch after them are again grown men instead of young children? At what point do you become a heartless bastard racist & think what is happening is wrong?
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 21, 2016 16:09:35 GMT
I agree, particuarly the bit in bold. The only problem with that is that you're making it sound like we've just got to deal with some small number of immigrants. "Oh come on now, it doesn't matter if they're fully grown men rather than the young children we were lead to believe we were getting. I'm sure we can find room for them somewhere you heartless bastard racists". That's all fine and dandy, but what about the next bunch of immigrants? And the bunch after them? And the bunch after them? And the bunch after them? How many does it take untill you agree we need to get this under control? And what if the next bunch are grown men instead of young children? What if the bunch after them are again grown men instead of young children? At what point do you become a heartless bastard racist & think what is happening is wrong? It's quite easy to talk about immigration without being racist, you just don't mention race or religion.... In this instance it is a small number though isn't it and we're talking about children \ young adults with family already in the country. Find where i've said people are racist for opposing these refugees coming here, in fact I started on this point by questioning what was racist about people not wanting these refugees to be allowed in. Immigration after Brexit will be up to the people \ government to decide equally if you are going to cut off the low skilled immigration than logically at some point all the jobs local people don't want to do from working in restaurants to care assistants people will either have to be encouraged to do either by wages or loss of benefits.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Oct 21, 2016 16:23:03 GMT
It wasn't aimed at you, FYD. Infact it wasn't really aimed at anyone specifically... But my points still stand. We can't just say "In this instance it is a small number" cos they're still arriving by the day. How many more days of 'small numbers' arriving does it take? How many more 'children' must we accept here before MOTD pundits stop calling us a nation of racist, heartless bastards for questioning it?
As of this very second there are plenty of people in this country who will call me a racist, heartless bastard for questioning what is going on. Someone please give me a number of immigrants before I can stop being a racist, heartless bastard & become a concerned citizen. Is it 1,000? 100,000? 1,000,000? 5,000,000? Or is there no limit? Should we just continue to take in the millions upon millions of refugees/immigrants/children/fully grown men/whatever the fuck you want to call them. At what point is enough enough? How stretched does our NHS have to become? How crowed do our schools have to become? How much of our green & pleasent land do we have to concrete over? Someone tell me at what point I can stop being a heartless, racist bastard by being concerned over it.
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Post by woodstein on Oct 21, 2016 16:56:20 GMT
I didn't realise lugsy Lineker played on the left wing, always thought he was down the middle. Which "celeb" will be next to lecture us on stuff? Sick of them all.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Oct 21, 2016 17:18:04 GMT
It wasn't aimed at you, FYD. Infact it wasn't really aimed at anyone specifically... But my points still stand. We can't just say "In this instance it is a small number" cos they're still arriving by the day. How many more days of 'small numbers' arriving does it take? How many more 'children' must we accept here before MOTD pundits stop calling us a nation of racist, heartless bastards for questioning it? As of this very second there are plenty of people in this country who will call me a racist, heartless bastard for questioning what is going on. Someone please give me a number of immigrants before I can stop being a racist, heartless bastard & become a concerned citizen. Is it 1,000? 100,000? 1,000,000? 5,000,000? Or is there no limit? Should we just continue to take in the millions upon millions of refugees/immigrants/children/fully grown men/whatever the fuck you want to call them. At what point is enough enough? How stretched does our NHS have to become? How crowed do our schools have to become? How much of our green & pleasent land do we have to concrete over? Someone tell me at what point I can stop being a heartless, racist bastard by being concerned over it. I can give you a number of immigrants, if you can give me a number of people that have actually called you racist? Like actual real people, instead of people that you assume will call you racist if you say something.
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